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Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
August 04 2011 08:44 GMT
#901
did u guys reliase u handciapped yourself by moving to Arizona where the connection to both Korea and Europe is not worth it? and not a dig, just seems like you should of got a palce where the connection eithier Euriope or Koriea was at least playable.but you must have limited amount of training partners then what you could of if you were on the east coast to play vs Europe or west coast to play vs Korea(if that is any good at all anyway).

Also is the any news on wether Puma will come out and join you at all?
Live and Let Die!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
August 04 2011 08:49 GMT
#902
somehow affordability for a house that rooms 7 was higher on the list than internet connection to EU / KR.

Proximity to SirScoots HD studio is a plus as well.

5 minute drive from major airport doesn't hurt.

etc

etc

etc...
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 04 2011 08:54 GMT
#903
On August 04 2011 17:32 roymarthyup wrote:
i honestly think incontrol and idra and the rest of EG guys have the mechanics to match the korean pros like MVP/MMA/DRG, they simply are getting crushed by the metagame.


the game is evolving every week. the korean ladder seems to be thinking of all the powerhouse strats/builds/techniques and the players that dont get the chance to see it and develop counters to it will get rolled over by it.

honestly the solution is probably to play on the korean ladder from US. that way EG will get to experience the metagame changes alot earlier

if you think about it, EG players will feel lag on the korean server but in reality this is essentially training under a handicap. each win you get on the korean server from america is more important because you are playing under lag and even though you lose more it only makes your play stronger

you remove that lag in a tournament setting and you will have a advantage over your opponent who normally plays in a easier environment .


think of it like goku and how he would train with weighted clothing, then when he had to fight against vegeta he took off the weighted clothing which increased his power level. anyway you get my point. this would be like letting EG train like goku and then when they go into a tournament setting them playing without lag like is like they are taking off their weighted clothing to increase their power level




ahaha this post is awesome, especially the last paragraph :D.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Quakie
Profile Joined October 2008
Norway725 Posts
August 04 2011 08:54 GMT
#904
Pretty sure IdrA has laddered a bit on EU before, as well as severeal others(Drewbie comes to mind). Are you sure that the latency is that bad?
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
August 04 2011 08:54 GMT
#905
On August 04 2011 17:49 iNcontroL wrote:
somehow affordability for a house that rooms 7 was higher on the list than internet connection to EU / KR.

Proximity to SirScoots HD studio is a plus as well.

5 minute drive from major airport doesn't hurt.

etc

etc

etc...


iNcontroL 1-0

I'm ambivalent about this idea so far. I don't want to make any sweeping predictions ("It will FAIL MISERABLY, I KNOW IT WILL" etc), I guess we'll see how much the players improve. I hope it goes well, though. For ESPORTS!
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
August 04 2011 08:54 GMT
#906
There is nowhere in the US where you can play NA to KR without .5 sec lag, not even the west coast AFAIK. (Hawaii maybe? LOL)
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 04 2011 08:56 GMT
#907
On August 04 2011 17:54 SafeAsCheese wrote:
There is nowhere in the US where you can play NA to KR without .5 sec lag, not even the west coast AFAIK. (Hawaii maybe? LOL)


I don't get .5 sec lag on korea and I live in Idaho. I used to get it but it really went away, latency is almost like NA for me. Don't know why it changed randomly (like a month-2 months ago it changed for me). But its really awesome for me anyway ^_^.
When I think of something else, something will go here
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
August 04 2011 08:57 GMT
#908
On August 04 2011 15:59 iNcontroL wrote:
Don't understand people assuming the worst or being negative overall... try and be positive please

We are running a schedule. This isn't a verbal commitment or something this is our job. We aren't a mismatch of progamer friends living in a place we rent together this is our place that our team provided. And you can bet your ass we aren't being paid to sit in here and chill.

I'm not going to keep coming in this thread and talking about how hard we are going to work etc etc.. think it gives off the wrong vibe. Just please try and be a bit more supportive and stop the nay-saying. It doesn't actually help anyone. I'd like it if expectations were really high and you dared to be disappointed as opposed to setting them really low and risking nothing except to be a faceless hater.


I sincerely can't understand why you read this comments and even spend time answering it! You should know better incontrol, people want to hate! Considering the last drama surrounding EG (Puma, SOTG etc..) you know there is nothing you guys can do besides sticking with your plans, work hard and present results for the fucking haters!

You have fans and believers! Just do it!
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
August 04 2011 09:01 GMT
#909
I can't believe someone thought the internet connection in there area overlapped them having a place to actually live lol just wow, its not like there up in an empty spot of Alaska there in freaking Arizona for gods sakes. Looks like a sick house, GL to you guys and I hope you guys start getting all the top spots in tourny's you enter. EG fighting!! Sir Scoots fighting!!!
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 09:02:37
August 04 2011 09:02 GMT
#910
On August 04 2011 17:54 SafeAsCheese wrote:
There is nowhere in the US where you can play NA to KR without .5 sec lag, not even the west coast AFAIK. (Hawaii maybe? LOL)


yet somehow Koreans manage to compete and win from KR to NA in online tournaments / qualifiers
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
August 04 2011 09:04 GMT
#911
On August 04 2011 18:02 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 17:54 SafeAsCheese wrote:
There is nowhere in the US where you can play NA to KR without .5 sec lag, not even the west coast AFAIK. (Hawaii maybe? LOL)


yet somehow Koreans manage to compete and win from KR to NA in online tournaments / qualifiers


Except NesTea, who is 4-8 in online tourneys

Korea to NA is also faster due to their innate internet speeds (SK has insane speeds, fastest in the world probably per area)

Solid builds and macro wins them, but if they had to play themselves or an equally skilled opponent with that lag they would most likely have trouble.
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
August 04 2011 09:05 GMT
#912
On August 04 2011 18:02 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 17:54 SafeAsCheese wrote:
There is nowhere in the US where you can play NA to KR without .5 sec lag, not even the west coast AFAIK. (Hawaii maybe? LOL)


yet somehow Koreans manage to compete and win from KR to NA in online tournaments / qualifiers


There getting the lag aswell.


There just much better players so they can compensate for it better.
Snitches get stiches
Lustaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada17 Posts
August 04 2011 09:07 GMT
#913
Hope this investment and time really pays off for not only iNcontrol ( <3 this dude, no homo ) but all of team EG. Quality people deserve nothing but the best and should be rewarded for their dedication and hard work.

Question... and I'm sorry if it was mentioned earlier but will Puma be making an appearance in the house at some point?
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
August 04 2011 09:08 GMT
#914
I don't think this will make any difference, but it might make a nice reality TV show, which will bring in some money for esports. Think about it, several people living in the same house, the possible raging from games lost is enough for a good season or two. First you lose vs. cruncher, then the toilet is clogged up, then someone ate all your food. Good times.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10884 Posts
August 04 2011 09:18 GMT
#915
People are just "cautious"... All that was seen from EG (except Idra, which success is (more like was) hardly thanks to EG):

SC2 comes out...
Incontrol talks about becoming a top player and Machine being one of the best/a total beastly macro Zerg... Results? Next to none.

Now?
Machine/Incontrol are basically "wasting" space in the MLG pool and dropping out early in basically all the other tournaments?

Future?
Well... I wish you the best of luck but your track record is not exactly beastly.

The House is awesome, the Idea behind it is awesome and i wish you the best of luck... But pI don't think eople here aren't really hating, people are just a little fed up with Incontrol/EG propaganda whiteout results backing it up... So people are way more cautious about your statements nowadays .

Best of luck (again).
Wawarox
Profile Joined July 2011
161 Posts
August 04 2011 09:18 GMT
#916
Work hard guys, i hope you will have the results you deserve ♥
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
August 04 2011 09:27 GMT
#917
I don't see how people can comment on how this is a bad location or anything remotely of that sort. Phoenix seems like the perfect location to me for this training house when Idra and Machine lived here for several months now, Machine's been in Arizona for over a year, Scoots has been there for many years and has his studio nearby, its a state with relatively cheap housing and is still located near enough (within a days drive) of Los Angeles, and like they've stated, very near a large international airport.

I'm just excited to see the pictures and video tours of the place when they're all settled and moved in. Its Phoenix arizona, the internet can't be terrible for a house dedicated like this, I'm sure it'll be fine.

We just need to relax and watch the progress of the house, thats all
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Cyrano
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden10 Posts
August 04 2011 09:29 GMT
#918
Will puma move in with you eventually? Or will he stay in korea and fly out to foreign tournaments?

Gl with practise and gl in future tournaments
Angry_Fetus
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada444 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 09:30:27
August 04 2011 09:30 GMT
#919
On August 04 2011 18:04 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Korea to NA is also faster due to their innate internet speeds (SK has insane speeds, fastest in the world probably per area)
.


Uhh... No. That's not how latency works. KR --> US is the same as US --> KR. Bandwidth is not a factor unless it's extremely slow (56k) causing congestion of the game's traffic.
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 09:48:25
August 04 2011 09:41 GMT
#920
I wish all the EG guys the best of the luck!

It's great that they are taking the initiative to setup a pro-house and hopefully stick to a rigourous training schedule. It will be a long, hard road but if they can stick to it, I'm sure some results will follow in due course.

Hope to see other foreigner teams following EG's lead.
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