EPTSeason 3 Ladder Map Changes (Official) - Page 42
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Humfluxx
Sweden47 Posts
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Chr15t
Denmark1103 Posts
 EDIT: dont worry guys - Blizzard will just add rocks to the gold base and 3rd's and it'll be good to go again \sarcasm | ||
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barth
Ireland1272 Posts
Also, what's wrong with Backwater? I think it's a fairly decent map. | ||
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vojnik
Macedonia923 Posts
Where should people get a third on this map, i am really confused what blizzard is thinking when designing some maps. | ||
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whaty0uwant
New Zealand346 Posts
On July 26 2011 21:00 AJMcSpiffy wrote: They explained why they removed Metalopolis people, read the OP. It makes sense to me, I'd rather have some new maps. It's not like tournaments will stop using it, and they even said themselves that they could reintroduce it later on. I'm excited though, two of my down-voted maps are removed now, so I have some freedom to get rid of other crappy maps. I don't know anything about the new 1v1 maps, gotta go look up info on them. Metal > xel naga. | ||
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syllabic
29 Posts
Instead they try to fix it with maps? Stupid. | ||
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Iamyournoob
Germany595 Posts
On July 26 2011 21:15 ckukner wrote: Ladder can be skewed becuase of the different skill levels. Only reliable source of information can be pro-level tournaments. Hmm? Well, first of all ladder tries to pair players of equal skill against each other. If you are on a losing or winning streak, you will get matched against "better" players, but Blizz has the data to remove this "skill difference" from the data and get statistics for equal players. And yeah, you are right. let us look at pro tournaments: According to the GSL finals contestors I really believe that Zerg needs a huge nerf or special zerg maps for PvZ and TvZ with spawning locations being as far away as they were on Steppes of War. Otherwise Zerg is just too strong. I'd agree on using tournament and ladder data jointly, but only looking at tournaments is dangerous, since one outstanding player might cause several people to believe something is imbalanced. | ||
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Dyon
Germany12 Posts
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Skoop
United States214 Posts
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Zealot Lord
Hong Kong744 Posts
On July 26 2011 21:09 KaiserJohan wrote: Metalopolis is great, except for the close spawn. They just should disable that. My issues with tal'darim and shakuras tho is the free expos PvZ, unlike other maps. The rocks on the third for tal'darim should seriously be removed - otherwise Z can't grab their third when P FE's I doubt that the rocks on tal'darim will be removed considering according to blizzard its already quite a zerg favored map (win rate statistics wise) - if the rocks were gone, it would only make it worse. I personally think Blizzard knows zerg macro is a bit too strong if there are no rocks preventing an instant double expo (especially if its an easy area to defend); otherwise there would be many games like recent GSL ZvP terminus games where the double expanding zerg just gets to 180+ way too quickly and crushes the Protoss without breaking a sweat (such as the Min V Genius game and a few others). | ||
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
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Gracksaurusrex
United Kingdom171 Posts
I hate that map with a passion | ||
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sLBraemar
Canada285 Posts
On July 26 2011 21:38 barth wrote: It feels very unusual to give positive feedback about Blizzard's map pool choices. Sure, Scrap and Metalopolis might be some of the better maps Blizzard has come up with but they're 18 months old... new maps will definitely keep the game more dynamic. Too bad they didn't add one or two more GSL maps but I guess it was to be expected. Hopefully the new maps will surprise and aren't all completely horrible. Also, what's wrong with Backwater? I think it's a fairly decent map. Many people hated Scrap, so I don't know why you're treating it like everyone loved it, lol. | ||
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sLBraemar
Canada285 Posts
On July 26 2011 21:59 NExt wrote: Any word from blizzard about how long till GM promotions? 2 weeks after the new season is when it happened last time, should be the same.  | ||
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vrok
Sweden2541 Posts
On July 26 2011 18:55 EmilA wrote: Noob fuck in denial. Zerg dominating left and right. Zerg nerf incomming shortly when maps aren't fixing the trend. Good morning Mr Noob fuck. TLPD stats don't lie. Metalopolis isn't a zerg favored map at the highest level so Blizzard's argument about that was plain wrong. My post detailed why their 'high level' ladder stats are irrelevant compared to TLPD. If zerg is OP or not overall is completely irrelevant. Even if zerg is OP, it only further proves that Metalopolis is indeed not zerg favored. | ||
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Maximumraver
Netherlands123 Posts
 At least we still have The Shattered Temple.... | ||
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BluePanther
United States2776 Posts
lol. funny, because I feel the same way. | ||
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SynapseSC
United States86 Posts
On July 26 2011 22:06 vrok wrote: Good morning Mr Noob fuck. TLPD stats don't lie. Metalopolis isn't a zerg favored map at the highest level so Blizzard's argument about that was plain wrong. My post detailed why. If zerg is OP or not overall is completely irrelevant. Even if zerg is OP, it only further proves that Metalopolis is indeed not zerg favored. Sort of. TLPD Stats DO lie. Metalopolis is ancient and a huge portion of the games on it were played at a time that is completely irrelevant at this point. If you want accurate stats you need to parse only the more recent data. At that point I'm not sure if the sample size is really large enough to be entirely convincing one way or another. | ||
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Mobius_1
United Kingdom2763 Posts
As for most of the rest, it's good riddance, pending what comes next, of course. I hope Metalopolis returns in the future though, it is pretty fun and familiar, but of course without close spawns, which make for games more Steppes of War than Steppes of War itself. | ||
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Phaded
Australia579 Posts
On July 26 2011 22:06 vrok wrote: Good morning Mr Noob fuck. TLPD stats don't lie. Metalopolis isn't a zerg favored map at the highest level so Blizzard's argument about that was plain wrong. My post detailed why their 'high level' ladder stats are irrelevant compared to TLPD. If zerg is OP or not overall is completely irrelevant. Even if zerg is OP, it only further proves that Metalopolis is indeed not zerg favored. To be fair, Blizzard is balancing ladder by looking at ladder stats. TLPD is irrelevant. It simply means the map is balanced for tournament use. Nobody has the statistics for the imbalances on ladder except Blizzard, so we can either take their word for it and accept it, or create conspiracy theories. Metalopolis is balanced in tournament play. Blizzard states that metalopolis is not balanced for ladder play and removes it. That's all we can conclude from this | ||
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