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RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 08:29:22
July 23 2011 08:27 GMT
#61
Noooooooooooo, now sc2 will be full of BGH/Dota/Fastest maps with the most popularity T______T

Edit : Now that i think about it... It'll be full of mafia and soccer instead. Still the same. Iccups maps won't be here nor any gsl maps.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 23 2011 08:30 GMT
#62
now that you have this thread , send something to blizzard to fix this ;O
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-KarakStarcraft-
Profile Joined September 2010
United States258 Posts
July 23 2011 08:34 GMT
#63
Good to know TY OP.
GMonster
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
686 Posts
July 23 2011 09:06 GMT
#64
Well we could say No to private games, or blizzard could make a Battle.net that is out done by a system thats 12 years old now.
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hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
July 23 2011 09:13 GMT
#65
It seems pretty reasonable to me that private matches don't show up on public lists. Why should maps that people don't commonly play in public lists show up there?

Honestly, I can see this being heavily abused by mapmakers to launch their maps to the top of the list.
Rodrigo(scdebates)
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada154 Posts
July 23 2011 09:19 GMT
#66
On July 23 2011 18:13 hmunkey wrote:
It seems pretty reasonable to me that private matches don't show up on public lists. Why should maps that people don't commonly play in public lists show up there?


If everyone is playing a map in private, this map is popular (since everyone is playing). Therefore, it should go to the "most popular" list.
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Art_of_Kill
Profile Joined September 2003
Zaire1232 Posts
July 23 2011 09:22 GMT
#67
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 22 2011 21:35 Rodrigo(scdebates) wrote:
Every average Starcraft player has hosted at least one private match, specially when the custom map is not popular. It's easy to host a game, invite a few friends and start. However, many people still don't know that private matches DO NOT increase the map's popularity.

Private matches hurt map makers because it keeps their maps with low popularity while people are constantly playing them. Although I am a map maker, I'm not speaking just for myself. This is indeed happening to my iCJug 1v1+Obs maps that are not on first page because 90% of the games are private, but the same is happening to many other maps (as Mephs' Smashcraft).

So, please, whenever you host any custom map on Battle.net, always, ALWAYS click on "open to public" before start a game (even if the lobby is already full). This will make the makers happy and will help to promote the map, so more people can play and more map updates can come. Unless you really hate the map and don't want it popular, then you are allowed to not open to public.

Map makers appreciate.
Thank you.

[image loading]

edit: If you don't believe, you can confirm this by yourself. Get a map with really low popularity, host it privately, add a computer, play it for a few minutes and check the map's popularity. No changes. Now host it again, but this time add a computer and click "open to public." The popularity of the map will increase. [tested last time on 22th July, 2011 - SC2 v1.3.5]

edit 2: Please, keep this thread active, or this will disappear forever, and no one will know about it. People must know this. This is one of the reasons why MLG maps are so low in popularity compared to the 1st page maps.

didnt know that, will keep this in mind
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acidbean
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany287 Posts
July 23 2011 10:27 GMT
#68
I'm not really playing custom maps, so I dont know how many people are playing those. But I honestly think, that if B.net would count the private games too, that a lot of the "real" maps would be very high on popularity. Just keep in mind how many tournaments are played each day, how many people practice in private games or just play with their friends. So thats maybe the point blizzard decided against it.
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
July 23 2011 10:30 GMT
#69
Wow, this is good to know. I'll definitely do this from now on, as my friends and I regularly play custom games privately.

Thanks for letting us know about this.
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
Houkka
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland51 Posts
July 23 2011 10:32 GMT
#70
I'll keep this in mind. B.net 0.2 showing off its amazingness yet again.
“Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist” -George Carlin
EiNiS
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden72 Posts
July 23 2011 10:42 GMT
#71
I hate battle net 0.2 for making hosting custom games so bad, wc3 did it good
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
July 23 2011 10:52 GMT
#72
Instead of clicking "Open to public" you can also just use "Join a game" instead of "Create a game".

Joining a game is always public even if nobody is in because its not popular.
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Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
July 23 2011 10:53 GMT
#73
well this is probably why sc2:bw is still not popular.
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
July 23 2011 10:56 GMT
#74
Lol i read map hacker instead of map maker. Mindfucked.
@ggmonx
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
July 23 2011 11:05 GMT
#75
its not the problem of that ppl never must play any private map to help out low ranked maps. its that private match's dont count. otherwise there is yust no oppertunity for well know streamers to play a private match with 1 of his team mate. for example you take destiny. he is streaming and there is 1 realy big fan watching his stream, he look at the name of the game and will think "huh, i always wanna play him"so he will join x map and the game will start automaticly. even destinys team mate was going to join. destiny now must leave the game and make an other 1 and HOPE that o other ppl will join his game expect his teamate.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
July 23 2011 11:17 GMT
#76
Cool stuff, I will do this w/ my clan when I get back home to HK.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
lefix
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1082 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 11:18:32
July 23 2011 11:18 GMT
#77
On July 23 2011 15:23 TurkeyKnight wrote:
Besides that, GSL/MLG and Blizzard maps already get enough popularity through their respective events. My not clicking the button is not gonna hurt that.


he isn't talking about gsl/mlg maps.
he is talking about the dozens of maps that are easily as good or even better than those maps, but have no chance of getting popular because of bnets poor system.
and of course all the custom maps. there are ones that are much much much much better than those currently on top of popularity.
hopefully blizzard will eventually find the time to fix their custom map system.
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UnitedKronos
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
139 Posts
July 23 2011 11:54 GMT
#78
good to know, I always play iCJug with my friends, hope I can help it rank up
Oh hai. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
July 23 2011 16:17 GMT
#79
anyone know how to get some maps published? of the new YABOT maps only 3 actualy come up when u search YABOT unless I should be searchign sometign else and no wayof creating maps that arent in the lists..... not unless i drag ithem onto the sc2 exe...
Live and Let Die!
Hexaflex
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom70 Posts
July 23 2011 17:14 GMT
#80
WHAT THE FUCK?

That is one of the most stupid things I've ever heard. There is literally no reason why Blizz should count 'public' custom games but not 'private' custom games. Popularity is supposed to measure how many people play on each map, not whether they play with friends or play with random bnet retards.

Augh Blizzard you have made so many bad and baffling choices in your recent history.
True power!
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