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Every average Starcraft player has hosted at least one private match, specially when the custom map is not popular. It's easy to host a game, invite a few friends and start. However, many people still don't know that private matches DO NOT increase the map's popularity.
Private matches hurt map makers because it keeps their maps with low popularity while people are constantly playing them. Although I am a map maker, I'm not speaking just for myself. This is indeed happening to my iCJug 1v1+Obs maps that are not on first page because 90% of the games are private, but the same is happening to many other maps (as Mephs' Smashcraft).
So, please, whenever you host any custom map on Battle.net, always, ALWAYS click on "open to public" before start a game (even if the lobby is already full). This will make the makers happy and will help to promote the map, so more people can play and more map updates can come. Unless you really hate the map and don't want it popular, then you are allowed to not open to public.
Map makers appreciate.
Thank you.
![[image loading]](http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/18/698/ClickITAlways.png)
edit: If you don't believe, you can confirm this by yourself. Get a map with really low popularity, host it privately, add a computer, play it for a few minutes and check the map's popularity. No changes. Now host it again, but this time add a computer and click "open to public." The popularity of the map will increase. [tested last time on 22th July, 2011 - SC2 v1.3.5]
edit 2: Please, keep this thread active, or this will disappear forever, and no one will know about it. People must know this. This is one of the reasons why MLG maps are so low in popularity compared to the 1st page maps. 
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Good to know. If confirmed, this should be stickied in the Custom Maps forum.
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Nice to know. But there are very good reasons on why people don't want to play with pubs.
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So you're saying if I want to play a UMS by myself, it doesn't increase the popularity.
But if I play by myself, click "Open to Public" and then start the game while still alone, it will?
Or does the lobby have to gain players?
If this is true it's great to know and I feel bad for not having supported all my favorite maps as well as I could have =[
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Stupid blizzard can't make a proper battlenet!!!  i will keep this in mind
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ow, I didn't know that. I will definately do it! Everyone should read this !
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When did the open to public button get there? I always thought if you hosted a custom game people from the public could not join. Granted, I have not looked for that button since the beta. Will do this from now on.
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On July 22 2011 21:43 nttea wrote:Stupid blizzard can't make a proper battlenet!!! i will keep this in mind
What are you taking about? The use of that statistic is for pubs to see the probability they will get a game. If you have a map with 99% private games and it shows as highly popular, a pub may join and sit wasting his time expecting to find a game.
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On July 22 2011 21:45 Phayze wrote:
When did the open to public button get there? I always thought if you hosted a custom game people from the public could not join. Granted, I have not looked for that button since the beta. Will do this from now on.
It's been there since I bought the game.. release.
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On July 22 2011 21:42 T.O.P. wrote:
Nice to know. But there are very good reasons on why people don't want to play with pubs.
He is saying "open to public just before starting". Nobody will have time to join before you press start.
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wow, if that's true it's simply stupidly designed by Blizzard.
Meanwhile this might help slightly, if this topic gets noticed by enough players, I really doubt it will have any bigger impact. So maybe you and fellow mapsters would be better of making blizzard aware of this issue?
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On July 22 2011 21:42 T.O.P. wrote:
Nice to know. But there are very good reasons on why people don't want to play with pubs.
I think the point is that even if you don't want to play with pubs, you can open it to public once you've filled it will all your friends.
This results in the map increasing in popularity, however you still don't have to play with pubs.
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wow I had no idea. pretty stupid by bliz though imo.
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The popularity system is utter shit to begin with, and as simple as it seems to press an extra button before starting a game, very few people will actually do it.
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I will try but it doesn't matter cause the map's popularity( the ones i play) are already so popular.
( MLG Maps )
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On July 22 2011 21:41 Sbrubbles wrote:
Good to know. If confirmed, this should be stickied in the Custom Maps forum.
You can confirm this by yourself. Get a map with really low popularity, host it privately, add a computer, play it for a few minutes and check the map's popularity. No changes. Now host it again, but this time add a computer and click "open to public." The popularity of the map will increase.
On July 22 2011 21:46 Cosmos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 21:42 T.O.P. wrote:
Nice to know. But there are very good reasons on why people don't want to play with pubs. He is saying "open to public just before starting". Nobody will have time to join before you press start.
Exactly.
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This is why all the good 1v1 maps aren't popular. My friends and I always play all our 1v1 in private games.
Ridiculous.
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did not know that so i'll do it now
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Oh cool, thanks for the information, ill make sure to do this from now on, I just wish bnet 2.0 made sense
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This reminds me of that map that looked really good from the title and the picture and then when you get into the game it was literally just a block of text stating the popularity system was a failure.
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I don't need that Xel'Naga Caverns needs any additional popularity on EU server, but I'll consider this when I play a game on an iccup map/map from any non-blizzard map maker.
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Good to know will keep this in mind for next time i do a custom game. Stupid that they arnt affected by popularity if they are private games though..
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Good to know I will do that from now on
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Blizzard should definitely change this.
I didn't know this and none of the people I ever play with knew it either. I'll make sure to do this more often!
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This is a really dumb function, if it actually works like that...
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You're asking people to artificially inflate the popularity of whatever maps they play. Unless people bias your maps in doing this, I don't see how this would improve the popularity of your maps relative to others. And like has been said, the point of the popularity stat is so that people can tell how likely they are to find people for a public game. I'm not sure skewing this statistic is helpful for anyone.
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oh my god, that’s ridiculous private game should contribute to the popularity of the map too!!! No wonder you can never find the newest build order tester maps in the map pool. Always find the ones that are out of date.
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On July 22 2011 22:44 Beakyboo wrote:And like has been said, the point of the popularity stat is so that people can tell how likely they are to find people for a public game. I'm not sure skewing this statistic is helpful for anyone.
It isn't skewing. If they are marked as popular, then people won't need to make private games for them and will play them publicly.
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You can't change settings after making public.
This is not a user problem, this is a software problem. You should complain to blizzard.
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So many poorly designed loopholes in blizzards custom system... I really hate how it works currently, it's like the rich get richer the poor get poorer due to their spots on the front page or two.
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Theres a big reason why this is tho...
in my experience playing ICJug maps in pubbies, basically people /profile everyone, see I'm grandmasters (or me + someone else) and they just end up trolling us the entire time, basically wasting our time.
Sure not everone does, but theres always 1-2 ppl who do EVERYTIME!
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On July 23 2011 00:59 PhiliBiRD wrote:
Theres a big reason why this is tho...
in my experience playing ICJug maps in pubbies, basically people /profile everyone, see I'm grandmasters (or me + someone else) and they just end up trolling us the entire time, basically wasting our time.
Sure not everone does, but theres always 1-2 ppl who do EVERYTIME!
No no, he just means to host a private match and right before you hit start, click open to public. By all means play it with friends, but opening to public right before you start (not allowing anybody to join) will make it go up on the popularity list.
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I fell horrible right now for hosting all those X map KOTH + obs
Thx for the info really appreciate it.
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Wow, this is a great piece of advice. I will definitely do this from now on! I wish I had known a long time ago.
Map makers are the real SC heroes and we need to support them!
EDIT: Somebody may want to consider reposting this on /r/starcraft and wellplayed, I would but I don't have accounts on either of them. Spread the word.
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On July 23 2011 00:58 GosuSheep wrote:
You can't change settings after making public.
This is not a user problem, this is a software problem. You should complain to blizzard.
It has been done for more than a year. Meanwhile, it is a good idea for everybody to always click "open to public" for any map. Right before you start a game, you hit "open to public" and "start game." It will be fast, no stranger will join.
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I don't think that anyone can join your game when the count down starts, so I am pretty sure that you are still going to play with your friend without some random stranger joining in.
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Hmm. I did not realize this. I play a ton of customs from the mapmaking teams here, so I will show some love. =)
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While I appreciate what the original poster is saying... I have a friend of mine that I mostly do 1v1's with... If I have to invite him into the game anyway, why risk making it public?
Besides that, GSL/MLG and Blizzard maps already get enough popularity through their respective events. My not clicking the button is not gonna hurt that.
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On July 23 2011 15:23 TurkeyKnight wrote:
While I appreciate what the original poster is saying... I have a friend of mine that I mostly do 1v1's with... If I have to invite him into the game anyway, why risk making it public?
To support the map? By opening to public, it's like a "thumbs up!" You're making the map more popular, which incentivates the map maker to keep updating the map and publishing new ones.
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On July 23 2011 15:23 TurkeyKnight wrote:
While I appreciate what the original poster is saying... I have a friend of mine that I mostly do 1v1's with... If I have to invite him into the game anyway, why risk making it public?
What risk? If you set a map to 1v1 and there are two people, making it public won't suddenly allow people to join.
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God, that's the way it works? That's awful, so basically no custom map you play with friends increases this map's popularity? And that's why essentially the only melee maps you always find an opponent in a reasonable amount of time are XNC, Meta, and ST?
I'll try to remember to always open to public from now on... except for Blizz maps, of course.
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Hang on a minute..
If I'm trying to join a game through the public games list, yet nobody is truly playing public games, then I'm not going to have much luck am I?
The whole point of the public games list is to show games that I can join, if everyone is playing it privately then it shouldn't appear high on this list, that would just be deceiving to the player by making him think there are games he can join.
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holy crap thats terrible.
I am one of those sad to see Smashcraft at so low of a pop rating.
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Just another addition to why battlenet 2.0 sucks.
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crazy. Never knew that. Will host public games now
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This might explain Raynor's Party from dying ):
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People aren't reading the OP. They're just reading "open game to public" and posting saying why would I want random scrubs to join.
I wish people would learn to read. I mean it's 2011 for god sakes.
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this is quite a good thread, lets keep it going!
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Nice to know, will do in the future.
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So spread the word people! If you like the map, make it public when you host.
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Interesting, will do
On July 23 2011 16:36 MonkSEA wrote:
I wish people would learn to read. I mean it's 2011 for god sakes.
lol
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blizz should fix this. would help the mapmakers out.
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I wouldn't be surprised if blizz had planned it that way -.-
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that's really enlightening. Good to know, hopefully we'll start seeing customs other than xel naga. I think for the average competitive player maybe they can actually start finding pub games on the tourny maps.
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hazaa, i feel silly now, seems like a good way to promote some good maps, maybe blizz could see that people dont want to play xel nag anymore lol
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Oh, okay. I guess. Seems like Blizzard should just fix this shit.
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I was unaware of this, I'll try my best to make my custom's public in future
Gl to making new maps, you guys are doing great.
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On July 22 2011 21:42 T.O.P. wrote:
Nice to know. But there are very good reasons on why people don't want to play with pubs.
You just click public and start immediately. You still play with only your friends but the play time counts towards the popularity.
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Noooooooooooo, now sc2 will be full of BGH/Dota/Fastest maps with the most popularity T______T
Edit : Now that i think about it... It'll be full of mafia and soccer instead. Still the same. Iccups maps won't be here nor any gsl maps.
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now that you have this thread , send something to blizzard to fix this ;O
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Well we could say No to private games, or blizzard could make a Battle.net that is out done by a system thats 12 years old now.
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It seems pretty reasonable to me that private matches don't show up on public lists. Why should maps that people don't commonly play in public lists show up there?
Honestly, I can see this being heavily abused by mapmakers to launch their maps to the top of the list.
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On July 23 2011 18:13 hmunkey wrote:
It seems pretty reasonable to me that private matches don't show up on public lists. Why should maps that people don't commonly play in public lists show up there?
If everyone is playing a map in private, this map is popular (since everyone is playing). Therefore, it should go to the "most popular" list.
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+ Show Spoiler +On July 22 2011 21:35 Rodrigo(scdebates) wrote:Every average Starcraft player has hosted at least one private match, specially when the custom map is not popular. It's easy to host a game, invite a few friends and start. However, many people still don't know that private matches DO NOT increase the map's popularity.Private matches hurt map makers because it keeps their maps with low popularity while people are constantly playing them. Although I am a map maker, I'm not speaking just for myself. This is indeed happening to my iCJug 1v1+Obs maps that are not on first page because 90% of the games are private, but the same is happening to many other maps (as Mephs' Smashcraft). So, please, whenever you host any custom map on Battle.net, always, ALWAYS click on "open to public" before start a game (even if the lobby is already full). This will make the makers happy and will help to promote the map, so more people can play and more map updates can come. Unless you really hate the map and don't want it popular, then you are allowed to not open to public. Map makers appreciate. Thank you. edit: If you don't believe, you can confirm this by yourself. Get a map with really low popularity, host it privately, add a computer, play it for a few minutes and check the map's popularity. No changes. Now host it again, but this time add a computer and click "open to public." The popularity of the map will increase. [tested last time on 22th July, 2011 - SC2 v1.3.5] edit 2: Please, keep this thread active, or this will disappear forever, and no one will know about it. People must know this. This is one of the reasons why MLG maps are so low in popularity compared to the 1st page maps.
didnt know that, will keep this in mind
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I'm not really playing custom maps, so I dont know how many people are playing those. But I honestly think, that if B.net would count the private games too, that a lot of the "real" maps would be very high on popularity. Just keep in mind how many tournaments are played each day, how many people practice in private games or just play with their friends. So thats maybe the point blizzard decided against it.
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Wow, this is good to know. I'll definitely do this from now on, as my friends and I regularly play custom games privately.
Thanks for letting us know about this.
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I'll keep this in mind. B.net 0.2 showing off its amazingness yet again.
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I hate battle net 0.2 for making hosting custom games so bad, wc3 did it good
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Instead of clicking "Open to public" you can also just use "Join a game" instead of "Create a game".
Joining a game is always public even if nobody is in because its not popular.
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well this is probably why sc2:bw is still not popular.
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Lol i read map hacker instead of map maker. Mindfucked.
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its not the problem of that ppl never must play any private map to help out low ranked maps. its that private match's dont count. otherwise there is yust no oppertunity for well know streamers to play a private match with 1 of his team mate. for example you take destiny. he is streaming and there is 1 realy big fan watching his stream, he look at the name of the game and will think "huh, i always wanna play him"so he will join x map and the game will start automaticly. even destinys team mate was going to join. destiny now must leave the game and make an other 1 and HOPE that o other ppl will join his game expect his teamate.
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Cool stuff, I will do this w/ my clan when I get back home to HK.
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On July 23 2011 15:23 TurkeyKnight wrote:
Besides that, GSL/MLG and Blizzard maps already get enough popularity through their respective events. My not clicking the button is not gonna hurt that.
he isn't talking about gsl/mlg maps.
he is talking about the dozens of maps that are easily as good or even better than those maps, but have no chance of getting popular because of bnets poor system.
and of course all the custom maps. there are ones that are much much much much better than those currently on top of popularity.
hopefully blizzard will eventually find the time to fix their custom map system.
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good to know, I always play iCJug with my friends, hope I can help it rank up 
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anyone know how to get some maps published? of the new YABOT maps only 3 actualy come up when u search YABOT unless I should be searchign sometign else and no wayof creating maps that arent in the lists..... not unless i drag ithem onto the sc2 exe...
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WHAT THE FUCK?
That is one of the most stupid things I've ever heard. There is literally no reason why Blizz should count 'public' custom games but not 'private' custom games. Popularity is supposed to measure how many people play on each map, not whether they play with friends or play with random bnet retards.
Augh Blizzard you have made so many bad and baffling choices in your recent history.
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oh wow, thanks for the information. Ill open to public everytime i make a game on icjug!!
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I dont like opening my games to public, pubbies are scary.
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I think this is great, I am one of those 1v1+obs jug people never opening to public.
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I would hope that Blizzard would simply allow Private games to increase the popularity, just like Public games do! Fix this, Blizzard!
But until this gets fixed, I will do this
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Didn't know that, thanks, important info. I will keep that in mind from now on when I play.
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Good to know. I will definitely clicky in the future. You've convinced me.
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Here's an idea: Get rid of Blizzard's retarded map popularity system all together
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Will think of that whenever I play something
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so if i dont wanna play with scrubs for lets say Star Strikers when i have my full 5v5 lobby full of friends i invited i can just hit open to public and then hit start game and it will increase the popularity?
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thanks for info... makes sense!
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On July 24 2011 04:16 OzkanTheFlip wrote:
so if i dont wanna play with scrubs for lets say Star Strikers when i have my full 5v5 lobby full of friends i invited i can just hit open to public and then hit start game and it will increase the popularity?
Apparently so, yes.
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On July 24 2011 04:16 OzkanTheFlip wrote:
so if i dont wanna play with scrubs for lets say Star Strikers when i have my full 5v5 lobby full of friends i invited i can just hit open to public and then hit start game and it will increase the popularity?
Yes.. Exactly
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I go into the less played maps. It seems like there a reason there far down there. If you map is good it will move up.
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On July 23 2011 16:23 XenoX101 wrote:
Hang on a minute..
If I'm trying to join a game through the public games list, yet nobody is truly playing public games, then I'm not going to have much luck am I?
The whole point of the public games list is to show games that I can join, if everyone is playing it privately then it shouldn't appear high on this list, that would just be deceiving to the player by making him think there are games he can join.
It helps people find maps. You may have a map you like playing privately with friends that you or a friend found by chance. Helping it get to the top of the list will naturally make more public games available. Part of the reason some games are only played privately is because trying to wait for a public one to fill is a waste of time. If enough people do this hopefully said map would get high enough on the list to start filling public games, so that you can play it even if your friends aren't around. If you would only play it with friends then it wouldn't change much from your perspective. However, it gives the map maker more incentive to improve and make the game better for you and your friends.
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You can always click it then start right away, so nobody joins, if you're concerned about random people joining.
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Most of you are missing the point. You can keep it with your private group, open to public after you fill slots and close remaining
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Thanks OP, very informative... now my fav customs will be closer to the top! :D
Three cheers for GSL maps getting popular (:clap
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On July 22 2011 21:42 T.O.P. wrote:
Nice to know. But there are very good reasons on why people don't want to play with pubs.
Yep but if you want to support the mapmakers (which you should do as a thanks to them) then press open to public and start right away... it's not hard to start before pubbies join.
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On July 22 2011 21:42 T.O.P. wrote:
Nice to know. But there are very good reasons on why people don't want to play with pubs.
yea but hes not saying play with pubs. Like once you are ready to go just close slots u dont want people joining randomly and go instantly once you are ready to go
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Awesome popularity system you have there Blizzard.....
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On July 24 2011 04:49 Frozenhelfire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 16:23 XenoX101 wrote:
Hang on a minute..
If I'm trying to join a game through the public games list, yet nobody is truly playing public games, then I'm not going to have much luck am I?
The whole point of the public games list is to show games that I can join, if everyone is playing it privately then it shouldn't appear high on this list, that would just be deceiving to the player by making him think there are games he can join. It helps people find maps. You may have a map you like playing privately with friends that you or a friend found by chance. Helping it get to the top of the list will naturally make more public games available. Part of the reason some games are only played privately is because trying to wait for a public one to fill is a waste of time. If enough people do this hopefully said map would get high enough on the list to start filling public games, so that you can play it even if your friends aren't around. If you would only play it with friends then it wouldn't change much from your perspective. However, it gives the map maker more incentive to improve and make the game better for you and your friends.
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Pathetic design... but thanks for the information. They should fix it.
Edit: It takes so much energy to not rage in every thread related to Bnet 2.0. How... was it designed... by people who would consider themselves professionals. Surely professionals would use common sense (not only referring to this topic).
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On July 24 2011 09:10 Chicane wrote:
Pathetic design... but thanks for the information. They should fix it.
They might eventually. However, there's been a year and it wasn't fixed yet. Meanwhile, we keep pressing the "open to public" button.
However, I know that not all the SC2 players will read this thread. If there was a way to talk to everyone...
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Good to know, I'll start informing friends.
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The popularity system has already destroyed the map making community. Clicking the make public box will not fix it.
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This is also a main reason why sc2:bw is not on the popular list, i believe; though many people play it, creating it in private is necessary in order to set it to hardcore mode. thanks for the info OP, and good luck with your new map!
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This needs to be known to more people.
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thanks never even thought of this before. keep this thread alive!
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I had no idea, OP. I will do this from now on. Thank you for informing us, I had no idea! I swear, if I knew, I would have been doing this from the start.
Sorry =(
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All hail Rodrigo, lord of the custom games.
check out his incarnations:
Nexus Word Wars! (recommended)
ICJug maps!
Banana Cheaters!
Nexus Hindrance Wars!
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On July 24 2011 19:53 Kokujin wrote:
All hail Rodrigo, lord of the custom games.
check out his incarnations:
Nexus Word Wars! (recommended)
ICJug maps!
Banana Cheaters!
Nexus Hindrance Wars!
Don't make me shy. lol.
I added this message on icjug asking people to open to public, but it's not going to help much. Some people are still thinking that "open to public" = let strangers come in.
Some other mappers are also warning people on the loading screen, too.
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Very interesting - this should almost be considered a bug IMO. Why would it not count because it was private? The map was still used. Hopefully Blizzard does the smart thing and fixes this. I bet it wouldn't even require a client-side patch.
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I was always wondering why icjug maps were less popular then the crappy 1v1 obs maps. I guess this explains it haha.
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On July 25 2011 12:29 Najda wrote:
I was always wondering why icjug maps were less popular then the crappy 1v1 obs maps. I guess this explains it haha.
Not only that, but also the fact that people would rather play a lower quality map that fills the lobby fast than stay hours waiting to find people to play a better map. Once iCJug gets popular, it will never leave the top.
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As it seems majority doesn't understand the current system.
Blizzard marks maps popular if you have a high chance to join into random public custom map.
Many posters here think that map is popular if there are many matches on that map.
Popularity is clearly defined different for Blizzard than "community". I guess Blizzard's remark "popularity" is not the best one.
Marking map public and then launching map is just destroying Blizzard's system.
I guess there should be 2 tabs instead of "popularity": 1=chance to join & 2=most played.
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Good to know! will do this in the future!
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Will do. Sticky por favor!
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On July 28 2011 06:07 NASAmoose wrote:
Will do. Sticky por favor!
I agree this should be stuck until Blizzard fixes the system. If this thread doesn't get stuck, it will disappear soon and no one will know this. This is really important because it's one of the main reasons why people can't find MLG or iCCup maps on the popularity list. So, I'm also asking to stick this for a while.
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On July 28 2011 04:52 Rodrigo(scdebates) wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 12:29 Najda wrote:
I was always wondering why icjug maps were less popular then the crappy 1v1 obs maps. I guess this explains it haha. Not only that, but also the fact that people would rather play a lower quality map that fills the lobby fast than stay hours waiting to find people to play a better map. Once iCJug gets popular, it will never leave the top.
I hope so. The popularity of icjug has fallen, and it is now taking forever to find a game, even when using the map that is most popular at the moment. (currently XNC) I've been forced to play on the terrible 1v1 obs maps if I don't feel like waiting 30 minutes for a game to start.
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Going to do this from now on every time, gotta get the ICcup/GSL guys higher on that popularity list!!
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Never even noticed this before. The way custom games overall are setup is kind of silly.
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On July 28 2011 10:20 Angry_Fetus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 04:52 Rodrigo(scdebates) wrote:On July 25 2011 12:29 Najda wrote:
I was always wondering why icjug maps were less popular then the crappy 1v1 obs maps. I guess this explains it haha. Not only that, but also the fact that people would rather play a lower quality map that fills the lobby fast than stay hours waiting to find people to play a better map. Once iCJug gets popular, it will never leave the top. I hope so. The popularity of icjug has fallen, and it is now taking forever to find a game, even when using the map that is most popular at the moment. (currently XNC) I've been forced to play on the terrible 1v1 obs maps if I don't feel like waiting 30 minutes for a game to start.
O.o I didn't realize that. But, your right
That's a BIG problem. Everyone that loves iCJug is playing what they themselves call "the terrible 1v1+obs." By helping more and more the popularity of the maps they call "terrible," it is harder and harder for the "good iCJug" to become popular. This way, the "terrible" 1v1+Obs will only get even more popular while iCJug will never be popular.
More people play what they find terrible to avoid waiting in lobby for the good, more popular the terrible gets and more the good disappears forever until the terrible becomes the good.
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I hope this is enough to get True Big Game Hunters to be more popular =/
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Great information, thank you!
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On July 28 2011 15:00 Rodrigo(scdebates) wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 10:20 Angry_Fetus wrote:On July 28 2011 04:52 Rodrigo(scdebates) wrote:On July 25 2011 12:29 Najda wrote:
I was always wondering why icjug maps were less popular then the crappy 1v1 obs maps. I guess this explains it haha. Not only that, but also the fact that people would rather play a lower quality map that fills the lobby fast than stay hours waiting to find people to play a better map. Once iCJug gets popular, it will never leave the top. I hope so. The popularity of icjug has fallen, and it is now taking forever to find a game, even when using the map that is most popular at the moment. (currently XNC) I've been forced to play on the terrible 1v1 obs maps if I don't feel like waiting 30 minutes for a game to start. O.o I didn't realize that. But, your right That's a BIG problem. Everyone that loves iCJug is playing what they themselves call "the terrible 1v1+obs." By helping more and more the popularity of the maps they call "terrible," it is harder and harder for the "good iCJug" to become popular. This way, the "terrible" 1v1+Obs will only get even more popular while iCJug will never be popular. More people play what they find terrible to avoid waiting in lobby for the good, more popular the terrible gets and more the good disappears forever until the terrible becomes the good.
I've never heard of iCJug, what is it and how is it better than 1v1 obs?
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On July 28 2011 16:54 Kiaro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 15:00 Rodrigo(scdebates) wrote:On July 28 2011 10:20 Angry_Fetus wrote:On July 28 2011 04:52 Rodrigo(scdebates) wrote:On July 25 2011 12:29 Najda wrote:
I was always wondering why icjug maps were less popular then the crappy 1v1 obs maps. I guess this explains it haha. Not only that, but also the fact that people would rather play a lower quality map that fills the lobby fast than stay hours waiting to find people to play a better map. Once iCJug gets popular, it will never leave the top. I hope so. The popularity of icjug has fallen, and it is now taking forever to find a game, even when using the map that is most popular at the moment. (currently XNC) I've been forced to play on the terrible 1v1 obs maps if I don't feel like waiting 30 minutes for a game to start. O.o I didn't realize that. But, your right That's a BIG problem. Everyone that loves iCJug is playing what they themselves call "the terrible 1v1+obs." By helping more and more the popularity of the maps they call "terrible," it is harder and harder for the "good iCJug" to become popular. This way, the "terrible" 1v1+Obs will only get even more popular while iCJug will never be popular. More people play what they find terrible to avoid waiting in lobby for the good, more popular the terrible gets and more the good disappears forever until the terrible becomes the good. I've never heard of iCJug, what is it and how is it better than 1v1 obs?
Being offtopic here. I might not be the best person to asnwer that to you since I never play the 1v1+Obs by slime. But, people have told me that they find iCJug more polished, less bugs, better obs interface, more maps on the pool, and more intelligent and fair matchmaking system to pick people to play. They also talk about creeps, I don't know exactly, but there's no creeps on iCJug.
Please, you can read more here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=202081
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