EPTFXO parts ways with Sheth - Page 49
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FiLmBoT
United States107 Posts
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Willeren
Denmark15 Posts
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JustPassingBy
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Sheth doesn't want to train abroad, so there's no way he'd join his team in malasia, which FXO tries to make its focal point. | ||
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Zulueta
Germany28 Posts
manner up guys! hope that Sheth will find a new home soon | ||
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Yip12343
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 Hope both have sensational futures | ||
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Fatze
Germany1342 Posts
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
 Good luck to both FXO and Sheth in the future! | ||
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McGuire72
Canada140 Posts
On July 23 2011 12:56 AimForTheBushes wrote: I think you really need to step back and think about what a sweatshop is..and then compare that to what us adults call "jobs"..and then compare that to what a pro-gaming house is. Two of the three are ways that people earn a living, by doing things they really would rather not do, for the most part. The 3rd is a place where kids can get all their needs provided for, for free, while earning money on the side. Are pro-gaming houses lavish mansions with incredible amenities? Of course not. Are they any worse than your normal college fraternity where you share a rack room (where all the bunk beds are) with 50 other guys? In most cases, no. Gaming houses are very utilitarian, and efficient for what they're meant to be. The players basically have no responsibility to provide for themselves, they only have to be responsible enough to practice playing video games for the majority of a day. What a brutal life. I'm sure we're only months away from the 3AM Sarah McLachlan TV ad for "Adopt/Save a starving gamer"..right? I have a great job. I work full-time, and play SC2 in my spare time. That's why I'm comfortable criticizing progaming houses for being exploitative of their "employees." Look at the PuMa situation, as a recent example. They basically weren't paying the guy for the work he was doing. Sweatshop. No, people aren't FORCED to play in the progaming houses, but people aren't generally forced to work in sweatshops, except out of necessity. And you may say, "well, these gamers do this out of passion, not necessity," to which I would respond: How do you know that? FruitDealer, for one, openly admits that he took to progaming as a way to provide for his family; his mother, literally, was a "fruit dealer" on the streets, and his family was very poor. How do you know this isn't the norm? I've been through university , and lived in residence. Yes, the spaces can be tight in some dorm rooms (not mine ^^), but the difference is I'm not FORCED to be there 12 hours a day. Quite the opposite in fact-- I'm encouraged to get out and see some sunlight and try to pick up chicks and go out and get drunk with my friends (and go to class, hehehe). I think you're all arguing with me over semantics basically. The word "sweatshop" has got you all so riled up that you're missing my point. That point is: Don't knock Sheth because he doesn't want to live in those conditions, especially if you've never been there yourself. | ||
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Tektos
Australia1321 Posts
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
On July 23 2011 22:48 Tektos wrote: The Korean team house practice routine is the only way to become the best and maintain your position as the best. Sheth is not happy with the team house lifestyle so will eventually fall off the radar while FXO if they continue in the direction they're heading are destined to do great things. I certainly think western pro gaming houses should not try to imitate the lifestyle of korean ones, just the practice routine... there is no need to share a room with minimum accommodations with other 3 people in order to become the best. I don't fault Sheth for his decision.. I know I wouldn't want to live in those conditions either. | ||
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Trawlen
United Kingdom13 Posts
On July 23 2011 22:58 s4life wrote: I certainly think western pro gaming houses should not try to imitate the lifestyle of korean ones, just the practice routine... there is no need to share a room with minimum accommodations with other 3 people in order to become the best. I don't fault Sheth for his decision.. I know I wouldn't want to live in those conditions either. I believe FXO has a mansion in some asian country. It's nothing like a korean house. It has a 24/7 guard, a swimming pool and looks pretty big. | ||
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Mario1209
United States1077 Posts
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raistline123
Canada18 Posts
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jinixxx123
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
No but srsly, if a player has drive and connections there's no reason they can't be good even without being in a pro house, it's all about how much you practice and who you practice with. | ||
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Hyren
United States817 Posts
Sheth and FXO fighting. | ||
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MintBerryCrunch
United States73 Posts
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iGn1t3
Hong Kong73 Posts
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Meko
United States129 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On July 23 2011 21:59 McGuire72 wrote: I have a great job. I work full-time, and play SC2 in my spare time. That's why I'm comfortable criticizing progaming houses for being exploitative of their "employees." Look at the PuMa situation, as a recent example. They basically weren't paying the guy for the work he was doing. Sweatshop. No, people aren't FORCED to play in the progaming houses, but people aren't generally forced to work in sweatshops, except out of necessity. And you may say, "well, these gamers do this out of passion, not necessity," to which I would respond: How do you know that? FruitDealer, for one, openly admits that he took to progaming as a way to provide for his family; his mother, literally, was a "fruit dealer" on the streets, and his family was very poor. How do you know this isn't the norm? I've been through university , and lived in residence. Yes, the spaces can be tight in some dorm rooms (not mine ^^), but the difference is I'm not FORCED to be there 12 hours a day. Quite the opposite in fact-- I'm encouraged to get out and see some sunlight and try to pick up chicks and go out and get drunk with my friends (and go to class, hehehe). I think you're all arguing with me over semantics basically. The word "sweatshop" has got you all so riled up that you're missing my point. That point is: Don't knock Sheth because he doesn't want to live in those conditions, especially if you've never been there yourself. I don't think they threw out sheth because of Korea, but more because he doesn't want to train in malaysia. And looking at those pictures, those were incredibly living conditions. :o | ||
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