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purecarnagge
Profile Joined August 2010
719 Posts
July 24 2011 21:25 GMT
#1001
i doubt EG will get him.
IVFearless
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States165 Posts
July 24 2011 22:09 GMT
#1002
Sad news, but could be seen coming.
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
July 24 2011 22:14 GMT
#1003
im guessing col.sheth or reign.sheth, he was in root after all.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
July 24 2011 22:35 GMT
#1004
On July 22 2011 15:37 Novalisk wrote:
It's nice to see closure. It's obvious things aren't going to work out if Sheth wanted to stay in the US while playing on the most international team out there.

Yeah it's clear there wasn't a perfect fit there. Unfortunate for both parties but at least it didn't end in fire and drama. GL to FXO and Sheth in the future!
EclipZe
Profile Joined March 2011
United States39 Posts
July 24 2011 23:02 GMT
#1005
So much drama... I truly liked Sheth, very manner, very nice. I enjoyed rooting for him. I also enjoying rooting for FXO just because they were the foreign team. But I had a particular interest when Sheth played. I hope everything turns out where we could see him back in Korea one day.
Slago
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada726 Posts
July 24 2011 23:04 GMT
#1006
i love you sheth
I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of... ah forget it
MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 23:48:47
July 24 2011 23:47 GMT
#1007
Yeah, elephant in the room, everyone's saying "we should respect Sheth's decision, etc etc...."

But what everyone is truly thinking is that Sheth is weakwilled, regardless of how good of a player. He lacks the heroic drive to achieve great things, he had successfuly retained a spot in Code A, something that foreign/korean players would kill for regardless of low financial reward. At least TLO left after being knocked out, same with Ret, Haypro, etc.

Therefore, should we show sympathy,compassion? No, Sheth shouldn't be shown compassion or sympathy, talent means nothing, we don't admire people with just raw talent, we admire those with raw talent who tries and utilizes that talent, I would much rather support a bronze leaguer with the aspiration to become a pro player who tried til his last drop of blood than Sheth.

I am sure FXO's goals are noble, the whole team are willing to try and make sacrifices to give it their full effort in Korea, even if it may end in vain. Sheth, gives half an effort, still has a chance to progress and wimps out, i don't care what other reasons he has about his uncomfort in Korea, culture-shock, unless his parents are on the verge of death, unless there is so urgent need for him to go back, then to me he's just a mentally fragile player who doesn't deserve the chance he got, what a waste of time and faith of his fans and his team. I was looking forward to seeing him improve in Korea and maybe even have a chance at going into code S, because i am sure he can.

I am going to be straight up honest, maybe he has a lot of insecurities, he is; let's face it... fat, balding with patches of hair gone, etc. But escaping to US ain't going to increase his confidence, i think the best environment would have been to be with his team in Korea, encouraging each other in a team house, working out, practicing hard, improving self and game.

Will Sheth make a name for himself in the future? Maybe in the foreign scene he will have successes here and there, I don't expect any great things for him unless he embrace in dramatic changes. What a chance wasted, what an asshole.

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Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 23:57:21
July 24 2011 23:56 GMT
#1008
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MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
July 25 2011 00:11 GMT
#1009
On July 25 2011 08:56 Jathin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 08:47 MildSeven wrote:
Yeah, elephant in the room, everyone's saying "we should respect Sheth's decision, etc etc...."

But what everyone is truly thinking is that Sheth is weakwilled, regardless of how good of a player. He lacks the heroic drive to achieve great things, he had successfuly retained a spot in Code A, something that foreign/korean players would kill for regardless of low financial reward. At least TLO left after being knocked out, same with Ret, Haypro, etc.

Therefore, should we show sympathy,compassion? No, Sheth shouldn't be shown compassion or sympathy, talent means nothing, we don't admire people with just raw talent, we admire those with raw talent who tries and utilizes that talent, I would much rather support a bronze leaguer with the aspiration to become a pro player who tried til his last drop of blood than Sheth.

I am sure FXO's goals are noble, the whole team are willing to try and make sacrifices to give it their full effort in Korea, even if it may end in vain. Sheth, gives half an effort, still has a chance to progress and wimps out, i don't care what other reasons he has about his uncomfort in Korea, culture-shock, unless his parents are on the verge of death, unless there is so urgent need for him to go back, then to me he's just a mentally fragile player who doesn't deserve the chance he got, what a waste of time and faith of his fans and his team. I was looking forward to seeing him improve in Korea and maybe even have a chance at going into code S, because i am sure he can.

I am going to be straight up honest, maybe he has a lot of insecurities, he is; let's face it... fat, balding with patches of hair gone, etc. But escaping to US ain't going to increase his confidence, i think the best environment would have been to be with his team in Korea, encouraging each other in a team house, working out, practicing hard, improving self and game.

Will Sheth make a name for himself in the future? Maybe in the foreign scene he will have successes here and there, I don't expect any great things for him unless he embrace in dramatic changes. What a chance wasted, what an asshole.



Please read this thread before criticizing somebody who leaves Korea again. The harsh reality of it is that it fucking sucks to be an aspiring pro-gamer in Korea.

And what does his physical appearance have to do with him going pro? Grow up, man.


Ignoring the personal factors of any personality is just the liberal sugar-coat way of saying "everyone's equal", but the reality is, these things, whether appearance or inner all adds up to the assessment of a person/player's psyche.

Take a look at Puma's recent explanation for what he's going to do with his money, he is planning to spend them on clearing his bad acne as he announced. What about MC's self-consciousness about his weight on twitter, yeah it's not that bad, but it certainly creeped into his mind especially when players have to play on live television all the time. I am making no criticism of Sheth's appearance, i am trying to see it as a factor of his confidence, the body and the mind are linked, it plays a role in the assessment of his psyche. I didn't bring that aspect as a personal attack, the only aspect i brought up as personal attack is his lack of will.
TommyMidgets
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada10 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 00:42:00
July 25 2011 00:39 GMT
#1010
On July 25 2011 08:47 MildSeven wrote:
Yeah, elephant in the room, everyone's saying "we should respect Sheth's decision, etc etc...."

But what everyone is truly thinking is that Sheth is weakwilled, regardless of how good of a player. He lacks the heroic drive to achieve great things, he had successfuly retained a spot in Code A, something that foreign/korean players would kill for regardless of low financial reward. At least TLO left after being knocked out, same with Ret, Haypro, etc.

Therefore, should we show sympathy,compassion? No, Sheth shouldn't be shown compassion or sympathy, talent means nothing, we don't admire people with just raw talent, we admire those with raw talent who tries and utilizes that talent, I would much rather support a bronze leaguer with the aspiration to become a pro player who tried til his last drop of blood than Sheth.

I am sure FXO's goals are noble, the whole team are willing to try and make sacrifices to give it their full effort in Korea, even if it may end in vain. Sheth, gives half an effort, still has a chance to progress and wimps out, i don't care what other reasons he has about his uncomfort in Korea, culture-shock, unless his parents are on the verge of death, unless there is so urgent need for him to go back, then to me he's just a mentally fragile player who doesn't deserve the chance he got, what a waste of time and faith of his fans and his team. I was looking forward to seeing him improve in Korea and maybe even have a chance at going into code S, because i am sure he can.

I am going to be straight up honest, maybe he has a lot of insecurities, he is; let's face it... fat, balding with patches of hair gone, etc. But escaping to US ain't going to increase his confidence, i think the best environment would have been to be with his team in Korea, encouraging each other in a team house, working out, practicing hard, improving self and game.

Will Sheth make a name for himself in the future? Maybe in the foreign scene he will have successes here and there, I don't expect any great things for him unless he embrace in dramatic changes. What a chance wasted, what an asshole.



In the end, PuMa, who on top of being self-conscious is appearently a total nerve-wreck, won the NASL. mC's weight concerns never stopped him from ripping through tourneys with excess confidence. So what's your point? Being shown on live TV or at big events has 'something' to do with self-consciousness, but it affects people differently so there's no saying whether it truly played in Sheth's decisions. I'm sure, being the wise person he demonstrates through his game, he has his valid motives. Your judgement is harsh. Having been in his position, you might've done different, but you're here commenting instead so..
'If I had Force Fileds in BW, I would never lose!' -Bisu.. iirc
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
July 25 2011 01:32 GMT
#1011
Good luck Sheth, I'm sure he'll do fine.
theBizness
Profile Joined July 2011
United States696 Posts
July 25 2011 03:06 GMT
#1012
Takes more than marksmanship to be a sniper, and more than skills to be a top tier pro gamer. Best of luck, and I hope this doesn't mean Sheth is content to just collect the easy checks.
Less money for casters, more money for players.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
July 25 2011 07:54 GMT
#1013
I like people being honest, but MildSeven, you're way too harsh, tone it down man. It's a game, not a war. Sheth decided to do something which I personally consider quite unprofessional and his team is dropping him since he doesn't have the drive needed. It sucks, but it's not something to call him an asshole over. It's a game and he's playing for fun, I'd like for him to play to become the best, but if he doesn't want to, that's his choice. It's not an obligation, it's not a duty, it's a hobby.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
July 25 2011 09:03 GMT
#1014
I really don't get the sad tone of the responses. I understand Boss saying he's sad to part with his friend, but there's no reason to be sad Sheth leaves a team. If you ever liked him, you should be happy he's leaving a situation he's not enjoying.
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
July 25 2011 10:49 GMT
#1015
On July 25 2011 08:47 MildSeven wrote:
I am going to be straight up honest, maybe he has a lot of insecurities, he is; let's face it... fat, balding with patches of hair gone, etc. But escaping to US ain't going to increase his confidence, i think the best environment would have been to be with his team in Korea, encouraging each other in a team house, working out, practicing hard, improving self and game.

Will Sheth make a name for himself in the future? Maybe in the foreign scene he will have successes here and there, I don't expect any great things for him unless he embrace in dramatic changes. What a chance wasted, what an asshole.

User was warned for this post


Why are you hurling personal insults on someone who has decided to make a decision revolving around his own career? Would you like to be called an asshole too by someone you don't even know if you decided to give up a good paying job because you thought it doesn't suit you?

I'm pretty sad for Sheth for doing shoutout-to-TL ceremony after winning San, because instead of simply wishing him on his way wherever he goes, some posters here behave very childishly. Here's to hoping that Sheth gets picked up by a supportive team soon.
Cyrak
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada536 Posts
July 25 2011 10:53 GMT
#1016
I respect FXO a lot more after this. They clearly have a vision and a pretty ambitious plan for the future and even though they don't really have any players that I'm wild about they are really growing on me.

I'm also glad that they were able to rally so well after removing Sheth for one last great GSTL showing. Good luck FXO!
Fortune favors the prepared mind.
gregnog
Profile Joined December 2010
United States289 Posts
July 25 2011 11:01 GMT
#1017
On July 25 2011 08:47 MildSeven wrote:
Yeah, elephant in the room, everyone's saying "we should respect Sheth's decision, etc etc...."

But what everyone is truly thinking is that Sheth is weakwilled, regardless of how good of a player. He lacks the heroic drive to achieve great things, he had successfuly retained a spot in Code A, something that foreign/korean players would kill for regardless of low financial reward. At least TLO left after being knocked out, same with Ret, Haypro, etc.

Therefore, should we show sympathy,compassion? No, Sheth shouldn't be shown compassion or sympathy, talent means nothing, we don't admire people with just raw talent, we admire those with raw talent who tries and utilizes that talent, I would much rather support a bronze leaguer with the aspiration to become a pro player who tried til his last drop of blood than Sheth.

I am sure FXO's goals are noble, the whole team are willing to try and make sacrifices to give it their full effort in Korea, even if it may end in vain. Sheth, gives half an effort, still has a chance to progress and wimps out, i don't care what other reasons he has about his uncomfort in Korea, culture-shock, unless his parents are on the verge of death, unless there is so urgent need for him to go back, then to me he's just a mentally fragile player who doesn't deserve the chance he got, what a waste of time and faith of his fans and his team. I was looking forward to seeing him improve in Korea and maybe even have a chance at going into code S, because i am sure he can.

I am going to be straight up honest, maybe he has a lot of insecurities, he is; let's face it... fat, balding with patches of hair gone, etc. But escaping to US ain't going to increase his confidence, i think the best environment would have been to be with his team in Korea, encouraging each other in a team house, working out, practicing hard, improving self and game.

Will Sheth make a name for himself in the future? Maybe in the foreign scene he will have successes here and there, I don't expect any great things for him unless he embrace in dramatic changes. What a chance wasted, what an asshole.

User was warned for this post


The fuck is wrong with you? I honestly was trying to see your point of view but then you just bust out the " he is; let's face it... fat, balding with patches of hair gone, etc." What the fuck dose that have to do with ANYTHING? So ridiculous how you would even speak like this, I feel sorry for you and your future kiddo.
MHKiddow
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands10 Posts
July 25 2011 12:43 GMT
#1018
Good luck to Sheth your my Zerg Hero !
starcraft2rush
Profile Joined February 2011
306 Posts
July 25 2011 13:01 GMT
#1019
On July 25 2011 08:47 MildSeven wrote:
Yeah, elephant in the room, everyone's saying "we should respect Sheth's decision, etc etc...."

But what everyone is truly thinking is that Sheth is weakwilled, regardless of how good of a player. He lacks the heroic drive to achieve great things, he had successfuly retained a spot in Code A, something that foreign/korean players would kill for regardless of low financial reward. At least TLO left after being knocked out, same with Ret, Haypro, etc.

Therefore, should we show sympathy,compassion? No, Sheth shouldn't be shown compassion or sympathy, talent means nothing, we don't admire people with just raw talent, we admire those with raw talent who tries and utilizes that talent, I would much rather support a bronze leaguer with the aspiration to become a pro player who tried til his last drop of blood than Sheth.

I am sure FXO's goals are noble, the whole team are willing to try and make sacrifices to give it their full effort in Korea, even if it may end in vain. Sheth, gives half an effort, still has a chance to progress and wimps out, i don't care what other reasons he has about his uncomfort in Korea, culture-shock, unless his parents are on the verge of death, unless there is so urgent need for him to go back, then to me he's just a mentally fragile player who doesn't deserve the chance he got, what a waste of time and faith of his fans and his team. I was looking forward to seeing him improve in Korea and maybe even have a chance at going into code S, because i am sure he can.

I am going to be straight up honest, maybe he has a lot of insecurities, he is; let's face it... fat, balding with patches of hair gone, etc. But escaping to US ain't going to increase his confidence, i think the best environment would have been to be with his team in Korea, encouraging each other in a team house, working out, practicing hard, improving self and game.

Will Sheth make a name for himself in the future? Maybe in the foreign scene he will have successes here and there, I don't expect any great things for him unless he embrace in dramatic changes. What a chance wasted, what an asshole.

User was warned for this post


LOL

holy shit this guy has issues man. get some counseling Stan.
Yareq
Profile Joined June 2011
United States39 Posts
July 25 2011 13:32 GMT
#1020
LMAO that's a bold statement.
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