EPTOn July 21 2011 23:25 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Trickster, FruitDealer, now PuMa. Really sad for TSL...
Trickster, FruitDealer, now PuMa. Really sad for TSL...
Also rain.. looks like TSL is going down, very sad.
Puma leaves TSL for EG - Page 154
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Devise
Canada1131 Posts
Also rain.. looks like TSL is going down, very sad. | ||
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seoul_kiM
United States545 Posts
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venge1155
United States174 Posts
On July 21 2011 23:25 w_Ender_w wrote: How in the world are you guys reaching the conclusion that this means no Koreans will participate in foreign events when literally all the evidence points otherwise? o_o You do not honestly think that with a society that DEMANDS respectfulness that the teams will continue to allow/send CONTRACTED PLAYERS (i.e. none compete clauses or something smiler) if they feel they have a good chance of losing that player? Sure I would say that most teams will not stop sending players, but I would guess there will be far more chaperoning and a lot less contact. | ||
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Sandro
897 Posts
On July 21 2011 23:28 Dante08 wrote: And then the broodwar teams all convert and rape the korean-foreign teams lol. Nah, that won't happen while brood war still gets hundreds of thousands of dollars in salaries/sponsors/etc | ||
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tooPrime
United States245 Posts
On July 21 2011 23:23 Lonyo wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapping_up (Sorry it's a wikipedia link, but I think some people should read it). What went on here, if it is as claimed (EG approached Puma directly), would result in fines and bans of various sorts in other sports. If you think it's acceptable, then what do you think of rules against such actions in other (professional) sports? Okay so I asked this question and no one answered it, but if TSL did have a contract with Puna it's not tampering. If TSL and EG are "teams" in the same "league" and they all have contracts then it's tampering. If Puma had a contract I assume TSL wouldn't let him go, so I think TSL is just raging. | ||
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MHT
Sweden1026 Posts
On July 21 2011 23:27 Bensio wrote: How about we wait until an official statement from EG before jumping to comnclusions about the future of SC2 in the west? No comment until EG PR, interesting move tho. Not exactly a conclusion but a a theory rather. | ||
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moonmeh
Korea (South)105 Posts
On July 21 2011 23:14 twittertrans wrote: there seems to be a lack of translations from pro twitters at this time so i will do my best to bring some translations In responce to TSL_Clide's "dirty money" tweet, fiveoone501 신지수 @clidekj 선수님들이 더 힘내셨으면좋겠어요..ㅠ fiveoone501 a former MBC B teamer replied with "please lend him some of your strength" (implying that puma needs support during this time) ------------------ fiveoone501 신지수 @TSLpuma 선수님..꼭 가서 잘 하셔야해요^^ 잘하실꺼라믿지만..아프지말고 스트레스도 많이받지마시구요~중요한건 건강입니다!!응원할께요^^화이팅! he also tweeted to puma "puma, you have to go and do well! even though it may hurt, even though it may cause you stress the most important thing is your heath. i will be cheering for you. fighting" ---------------------- MaeLinE2 김혜린 @clidekj ㅠㅠ... user maelin a playxp and former mbcgame partner had only this to say to clide about his "dirty money" tweet. those little T's being crying eye emoticons. and also to puma she tweeted MaeLinE2 김혜린 @TSLpuma 이렇게 결정 된게 결코 나쁜 선택이 아니었으면 좋겠네요...화이팅입니다! i hope that this decision you made wasnt a bad one. fighting! ------------------------------- fruitdealer kimwonki winner of the first GSL had this to say about puma fruitdealar kimwonki 머리큰푸마 18 hours ago "big headed puma" Sorry to do this but I'm going to critisize some of this translation Clide was saying dirty money as an insult to puma, implying that Puma left the team for money reasons. fiveoone501 was merely saying I hope players gather up their strength (players in general). This is not implying he needed to comfort. In fact he was more on the line of saying TSL players cheer up! FD's twitter was 18 hrs ago yet this story broke around 9hrs ago so I think he's tweet is irrelevant here | ||
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Rinnegan5
Netherlands319 Posts
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Woshie
Australia90 Posts
On July 21 2011 23:16 canikizu wrote: \ Because in real life, you work for the company, make money for them and they'll pay you salary. If your company let you keep most (or all) the money you make, and also pay for your expense, find the sponsor, I bet they would be pissed too. That is between TSL and Puma. Nothing to do with EG. TSL where using him as marketable space for brands. If they where making money on him or planed to in the future is not EG's concern. If he was just a money sink it is a hobby. If you wish to get your investment back then you should have a proper contract. I don't get the hate for EG. If people want to hate someone it was PUMA's decision. EG did not force him to do anything, they simply gave him the option. It is like seeing your wife/gf cheat on you. Doesn't matter who the partner is your wife/gf cheated with. But it is much easy to chase the other person down the street. Having said that though I think Puma made a decision and I respect and understand it. You have a limited "life span" in a sport so you try to do as well in it as you can. | ||
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TheAlchemist89
160 Posts
Some very interesting moves by SK and now EG..... I wonder how the Korean SC2 scene will respond. They definitely will have to keep their players happy now to avoid more deals like this. I just hope the Korean SC2 scene steps up to give their stars more to keep them happy... or else their scene may start to dissolve. | ||
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
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zJayy962
1363 Posts
This thread is a bit too black and white. If we don't know the specifics of the situation we should not judge. Is it true that he had no salary in the TSL? A regular salary is a really amazing deal TBH because it offers stability rather than sporadic tournament wins that are unpredictable. Hope this works out and YAY for IdrA now having a great Terran to practice with. | ||
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stormchaser
Canada1009 Posts
On July 21 2011 23:30 pHelix Equilibria wrote: I'm not surprised. Its EG. Evil as hell, way to go behind the team's back. I don't understand why people can't just wish Puma the best of luck for his decision. So many people have to put a negative spin on change. He was probably paid shit if he accepted this deal with EG, c'mon guys, I'm sure he's happier than ever now. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On July 21 2011 23:25 w_Ender_w wrote: How in the world are you guys reaching the conclusion that this means no Koreans will participate in foreign events when literally all the evidence points otherwise? o_o "I guess" <<<< ? Knowing how Asians work, team players/coaches might whisper each other and be aware of the threat of losing their players when sending them to international events. I can still see Koreans participating online international events, but for offline events, I don't expect them to send kids to do big jobs now. | ||
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statikg
Canada930 Posts
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Greatness
United States450 Posts
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Sandro
897 Posts
On July 21 2011 23:33 stormchaser wrote: I don't understand why people can't just wish Puma the best of luck for his decision. So many people have to put a negative spin on change. He was probably paid shit if he accepted this deal with EG, c'mon guys, I'm sure he's happier than ever now. Nobody is shitting on Puma, just EG, and until we get their side of the story, they deserve it. | ||
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
On July 21 2011 23:33 stormchaser wrote: I don't understand why people can't just wish Puma the best of luck for his decision. So many people have to put a negative spin on change. He was probably paid shit if he accepted this deal with EG, c'mon guys, I'm sure he's happier than ever now. I'm not sure if anyone's complaining about Puma here... | ||
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tooPrime
United States245 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On July 21 2011 23:04 Sandro wrote: Puma has gone from training with Flash to training with Incontrol. This made me laugh a lot more than it should have :D | ||
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