EPTPuma leaves TSL for EG - Page 153
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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StarscreamG1
Portugal1653 Posts
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MLG_Wiggin
United States767 Posts
On July 21 2011 23:22 canikizu wrote: Oh well, I guess Koreans will stop sending their players to international events for a while now. good job Eccentric Genius. On July 21 2011 23:22 RusHXceL wrote: I wonder how Idra and Puma work together.. Looks like no more koreans to the USA. How in the world are you guys reaching the conclusion that this means no Koreans will participate in foreign events when literally all the evidence points otherwise? o_o | ||
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Freak705
Canada231 Posts
On July 21 2011 23:18 Contagious wrote: We're about to sail into a shit-typhoon Randy, you better haul in the jib before it gets covered in shitYou smell that randy? Smells like a shitstorm a brewing. Very interesting move from EG.. I don't think we know enough specifics to be making any arguments, but it does seem at first glance like this deal is a little underhanded. It will be interesting to see where Puma goes. Will he stay to compete in the GSL? Will he go abroad? | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On July 21 2011 23:23 ZisforZerg wrote: "Same old EG.. things never change. Every other pro team has respect for one another and approach the players the right way.. I'm not one bit surprised EG pulled this off. They've been doing this ever since quakeworld. I don't know why there are comparisons between this and FXO acquiring FoU. The FXO/FoU deal was handled through the team managers vs. going behind a teams back and picking up their players. Its called professionalism, and obviously EG lacks it." --- Are you serious? When you have a job in the real world and another company wants to hire you, the company does not go and talk to your boss to see if that's "ok". SC2 does not have an all-encompassing governing body similar to the NBA, NFL, MLB, etc. so they can and will exercise their rights to pursue a possible employee. If you actually think that this was a dirty move by EG than you have unrealistic views of how business is done. Please, do not post when you are oblivious to what it is you're talking about. --------------------Congratulations EG, I think this is awesome, only question is if he will stay in Korea w/ another team possibly or come to the AZ house. EG Hwaitiiiiinnnnnngggggg! Well guess what? This is eSPORTS, ok? If you're gonna call yourself one thing, then follow the same rules as the other sports. | ||
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MHT
Sweden1026 Posts
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Jomz
United Kingdom117 Posts
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Shifft
Canada1085 Posts
SC2 players are not slaves, and at 19 Puma is plenty old enough to decide for himself what team it is most beneficial to him to play for. From what I've read a lot of Korean teams treat their players VERY poorly, and events like this will force them to think real hard about what benefits their team is actually providing before their top players realize they can have a better quality of life playing for someone else. | ||
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DharmaTurtle
United States283 Posts
On July 21 2011 23:21 MangoTango wrote: what in the world? EG didn't talk to the management at all? That's...shady at best, unscrupulous at worst. Standard for EG. | ||
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leo23
United States3075 Posts
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Sakarabu
United Kingdom132 Posts
On July 21 2011 23:23 ZisforZerg wrote: "Same old EG.. things never change. Every other pro team has respect for one another and approach the players the right way.. I'm not one bit surprised EG pulled this off. They've been doing this ever since quakeworld. I don't know why there are comparisons between this and FXO acquiring FoU. The FXO/FoU deal was handled through the team managers vs. going behind a teams back and picking up their players. Its called professionalism, and obviously EG lacks it." --- Are you serious? When you have a job in the real world and another company wants to hire you, the company does not go and talk to your boss to see if that's "ok". SC2 does not have an all-encompassing governing body similar to the NBA, NFL, MLB, etc. so they can and will exercise their rights to pursue a possible employee. If you actually think that this was a dirty move by EG than you have unrealistic views of how business is done. Please, do not post when you are oblivious to what it is you're talking about. --------------------Congratulations EG, I think this is awesome, only question is if he will stay in Korea w/ another team possibly or come to the AZ house. EG Hwaitiiiiinnnnnngggggg! Umm, yeah nice try but that is completely the wrong analogy here. Why not try something which is actually related to the subject matter, Such as professional football (or soccer in the US)? If an opposing team contacts one of your players directly about a transfer instead of going through official channels they can get severely fucked for it, and I presume it's the same for the majority of major team based sports. Yes there is no governing body (Well actually there is in Korea, to make sure the teams are treated fairly and I guess it would deal with things like this inside Korea), but just because you can't be punished for something doesn't make it the right thing to do. | ||
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Bensio
United Kingdom621 Posts
On July 21 2011 23:26 MHT wrote: Feels like the foreign scene is about devour Korea. Who knows? Soon all the Korean pro teams may be owned by foreigners. How about we wait until an official statement from EG before jumping to comnclusions about the future of SC2 in the west? No comment until EG PR, interesting move tho. | ||
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Diabolegal
United States110 Posts
On July 21 2011 22:50 Harrow wrote: Can't help but think there's something rotten at TSL. Four players leaving in such a short space of time? Either it's a bad team to play for or their legal team is much worse than other Korean teams and they haven't figured out how to draw up a contract. If there was foul play by EG here, I mean actual legal breaches of contract, TSL would be talking about it. Instead they're just acting mad about losing another player. Those who can sue, do. Those who can't, whine. I'd like to see what EG has to say. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10979 Posts
I work at a company since 6 years. My company paid me a degree in accounting --> My contract was changed so that I had to stay for 2 more years (after finishing the degree) or I would have to pay for it myself. Immediately after succeeding and getting my certificate I got substantially better pay because else other companies would actually seek me out and offer me more money. Now exchange "education/degree" with "tournament/gstl" wins... It's just fucking normal. Either you have to account for things like this BEFORE someone goes big or change his contract immediately after.... | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4203 Posts
On July 21 2011 23:26 MHT wrote: Feels like the foreign scene is about devour Korea. Who knows? Soon all the Korean pro teams may be owned by foreigners. And then the broodwar teams all convert and rape the korean-foreign teams lol. | ||
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twittertrans
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2598 Posts
On July 21 2011 23:23 Lonyo wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapping_up (Sorry it's a wikipedia link, but I think some people should read it). What went on here, if it is as claimed (EG approached Puma directly), would result in fines and bans of various sorts in other sports. If you think it's acceptable, then what do you think of rules against such actions in other (professional) sports? Thank you for linking that article about a practice used to bypass regulations on behavior in some professional sports leagues in this discussion about a job offer made to a professional SC2 player. I think it's perfectly acceptable. The rules referred to in the article are part of the regulations an organization has to agree to to participate in a particular league. If the GSL or NASL want to set up similar rules, that's fine, but if they don't exist, no wrongdoing has taken place here. I totally understand why Lee is pissed to lose his best player, but being pissed and being wronged are different things. | ||
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yrjan
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If you think you know what has happened based solely on the ridiculously little info available so far, you should go be a poker pro. With those skills you'd be a millionaire in no time! | ||
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pHelix Equilibria
United States1134 Posts
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jakethesnake
Canada4948 Posts
On July 21 2011 23:22 GreEny K wrote: You're obviously angry reading this, since that's the only reason you could have for coming up with me being angry... I'm not angry at all, I don't care enough about EG to get pissed over this, it's just really shady. And even if you're in contract with a team (going back to what you said) they cannot just terminate the contract. The other team has to buy out the contract first. Nah, not angry at all - sorry for assuming you were. I won't judge EGs practices with so little information and I'm completely uninvested in the whole thing, but I do get annoyed when people don't actually read what I say and then try and tell me what I said. I've quite capable of speaking for myself  | ||
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