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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On July 16 2011 09:52 zerious wrote: forGG can play random can be a top level SC2 player, people are underestimating how good BW A-teamers are. I thought we were passed this also? If your logic stood, players like SangHo and MVP would almost never lose to Polt (WC3 semi-pro), MKP (B-teamer) and MC (1-9 BW career). He was a near A-teamer towards the end of his career. | ||
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
On July 16 2011 10:01 pdd wrote: I thought we were passed this also? If your logic stood, players like SangHo and MVP would almost never lose to Polt (WC3 semi-pro), MKP (B-teamer) and MC (1-9 BW career). He was a near A-teamer towards the end of his career. Aren't MVP and SangHo top sc2 players? | ||
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PeterHuynh
United States151 Posts
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On July 16 2011 10:02 PeterHuynh wrote: Im hoping this guy would try and play for a team and in the GSL, I would want to see how a real A-Teamer pro could do in sc2 so all this debate about how bw players would dominate or wouldn't dominate can finally come end No one said anything about bw players dominating. We said TLBS will dominate, not just any old bw palyer. | ||
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garlicface
Canada4196 Posts
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
Ah, I thought what you meant was the very top tier of players, which MVP and SangHo are not. But nevertheless, they're different games, it's too early to make a judgment on where he'll be if he turns pro. | ||
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PeterHuynh
United States151 Posts
On July 16 2011 10:03 rysecake wrote: No one said anything about bw players dominating. We said TLBS will dominate, not just any old bw palyer. im pretty sure in the elephant article theres 150 pages of people saying atleast real A-Teamers would dominate excluding TBLS | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On July 16 2011 10:04 pdd wrote: Ah, I thought what you meant was the very top tier of players, which MVP and SangHo are not. But nevertheless, they're different games, it's too early to make a judgment on where he'll be if he turns pro. If he takes the game seriously and puts in a comparable amount of practice as he did in BW there is no doubt in my mind he will be among the top players. | ||
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TeWy
France714 Posts
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
In fact, I can't even find any VODs of him using ForGG, but rather he seems to have always used "Never" or his Korean name. Also I doubt he can speak english either | ||
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
On July 16 2011 10:28 ArvickHero wrote: Um, you guys realize that ForGG hasn't used the "ForGG" handle for at least 4-5 years, not even during his Arena MSL run. In fact, I can't even find any VODs of him using ForGG, but rather he seems to have always used "Never" or his Korean name. Also I doubt he can speak english either Yup, he hasn't used ForGG in forever. Everytime I used to watch him play it was "Never". | ||
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SecondSandwich
United States319 Posts
Second, please someone tell me what ;;; means! I cannot figure it out! | ||
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seupac
Canada148 Posts
On July 16 2011 10:04 pdd wrote: Ah, I thought what you meant was the very top tier of players, which MVP and SangHo are not. But nevertheless, they're different games, it's too early to make a judgment on where he'll be if he turns pro. you are really writing MVP off after a slump this recent? hes the most dominant terran we have seen in sc2 thus far how can you consider him not even a PART of the "very top teir". maybe in his current slump he is no longer the best terran in the world but he is without a doubt one of them. | ||
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Dakkas
2550 Posts
On July 16 2011 10:01 pdd wrote: I thought we were passed this also? If your logic stood, players like SangHo and MVP would almost never lose to Polt (WC3 semi-pro), MKP (B-teamer) and MC (1-9 BW career). He was a near A-teamer towards the end of his career. You need to learn MUCH MORE about the BW scene. There is a very wide gap in A-team level players, MVP is probably the best current A-team player to switch and he's a mediocre Terran in BW at best. Nada, Boxer, Yellow and July, while still solid, cannot compete with the newest A-team players. forGG for a time was THE player, beating both Jaedong and Flash in BoX matches (who are the two best players in the history of SC). Granted he's fallen off since then however he's still young and could easily stomp faces in SC2. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On July 16 2011 11:47 seupac wrote: you are really writing MVP off after a slump this recent? hes the most dominant terran we have seen in sc2 thus far how can you consider him not even a PART of the "very top teir". maybe in his current slump he is no longer the best terran in the world but he is without a doubt one of them. he's been slumping for quite a bit. Plus, not many people count the WC win as seriously as a regular GSL season. Imo, MVP probably like Nada; definitely good, but just under the top tier. | ||
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HitMonkie
Australia518 Posts
He might play for New Star HoSeo Talking to the New Star HoSeo players in Sans stream, they all knew who Raptor was and said that he was a big BW player and was playing with them but didnt want people to know who he was. | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On July 16 2011 12:00 KimJongChill wrote: he's been slumping for quite a bit. Plus, not many people count the WC win as seriously as a regular GSL season. Imo, MVP probably like Nada; definitely good, but just under the top tier. That's laughable.. any korean will tell you mvp is top tier. | ||
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Caladbolg
2855 Posts
On July 16 2011 10:28 ArvickHero wrote: Um, you guys realize that ForGG hasn't used the "ForGG" handle for at least 4-5 years, not even during his Arena MSL run. In fact, I can't even find any VODs of him using ForGG, but rather he seems to have always used "Never" or his Korean name. Also I doubt he can speak english either If I remember correctly, NeverGG said he speaks English quite well (or at least passable - along with FBH). Anyway I'm pretty excited if the  King of Timing Attacks switched. He was pretty awesome in BW, sniping Zergs (including JD, which was my last good memory of him). Of course, he got crushed by macro-Protoss like best but that's nothing to be ashamed of. | ||
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ehalf
408 Posts
On July 16 2011 12:06 HitMonkie wrote: If forGG is Raptor and he does play professinal. He might play for New Star HoSeo Talking to the New Star HoSeo players in Sans stream, they all knew who Raptor was and said that he was a big BW player and was playing with them but didnt want people to know who he was. May I ask where did u watch San's stream? | ||
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