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On July 19 2011 21:20 Tyrgrim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:57 Mykill wrote:
SlayerS_Jessica herself scouted based on her skills and looks.
Why e-sports is not a real sport: Sports teams do not recruit based on looks. No, but the popularity of a player has been known to influence recruiting even in football (americans, read; soccer). Take David Beckham for example. He was a really good player. But when Real Madrid bought him from Manchester United, they payed an amount that at first sight would have appeared to be way to much. But since he has such a large, personal fanbase all over the world, and in Asia in particular, they deigned it worthwhile. To procure more fans for themselfs with the invested money, and also to get some back through jersey sales. Looks or popularity does not matter. Publicity stunts like this happens in other sports as well, and done correctly it's a very, very smart thing imo. Small risk, potentially high reward.
Except Starcraft for the millionth time is not "other sports" and here it's a huge risk and pretty much zero reward. There's nothing smart in this move, it's an absurd decision, especially given the timing of it (negative GSTL record, multiple players slumping etc).
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On July 19 2011 20:57 Mykill wrote:
SlayerS_Jessica herself scouted based on her skills and looks.
Why e-sports is not a real sport: Sports teams do not recruit based on looks.
Dude you havent even seen her play yet, wait till we can see a few games to get a gauge of her skill level and even if she isn't as skilled as other GSL/GSTL players then she has some of the best Terrans in GSL to help train her.
Don't automatically assume that she is nub 
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On July 19 2011 21:20 Tyrgrim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:57 Mykill wrote:
SlayerS_Jessica herself scouted based on her skills and looks.
Why e-sports is not a real sport: Sports teams do not recruit based on looks. No, but the popularity of a player has been known to influence recruiting even in football (americans, read; soccer). Take David Beckham for example. He was a really good player. But when Real Madrid bought him from Manchester United, they payed an amount that at first sight would have appeared to be way to much. But since he has such a large, personal fanbase all over the world, and in Asia in particular, they deigned it worthwhile. To procure more fans for themselfs with the invested money, and also to get some back through jersey sales. Looks or popularity does not matter. Publicity stunts like this happens in other sports as well, and done correctly it's a very, very smart thing imo. Small risk, potentially high reward.
David Beckham was purchased for a larger amount due to strong skill which boasted his popularity.
This is a case where you have a gamer with little skill and some looks, she also clearly has no fanbase and there is no merchandise sale. Where is the value-added in recruiting this player other than her looks?
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Let her play for a year and see how well she fares before judging. Nerds need to chill out, this isn't terrible publicity for esport and nobody is getting screwed over just because she has a Slayers tag.
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What annoys me the most is how unfair this is to other female gamers who actually have skill but not looks. I'm sure there are Korean female gamers higher than gold, but because Eve has the looks she gets the chance.
No hating on Eve, she got an opportunity and took it. Hating on Slayers management instead.
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On July 19 2011 21:25 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 21:20 Tyrgrim wrote:On July 19 2011 20:57 Mykill wrote:
SlayerS_Jessica herself scouted based on her skills and looks.
Why e-sports is not a real sport: Sports teams do not recruit based on looks. No, but the popularity of a player has been known to influence recruiting even in football (americans, read; soccer). . Except Starcraft for the millionth time is not "other sports"
lol what ??? :D
and here it's a huge risk and pretty much zero reward. There's nothing smart in this move, it's an absurd decision, especially given the timing of it (negative GSTL record, multiple players slumping etc).
and what is this huge risk you're talking about ?
is having a girls wearing jersey and sitting in the bench THAT bad for e-sport ?
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I'm glad for this. SlayerS is known to take less known and less skilled players and make them amazing. Stop hatin' start supportin' and plus she's cute.
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On July 19 2011 22:33 Mykill wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 21:20 Tyrgrim wrote:On July 19 2011 20:57 Mykill wrote:
SlayerS_Jessica herself scouted based on her skills and looks.
Why e-sports is not a real sport: Sports teams do not recruit based on looks. No, but the popularity of a player has been known to influence recruiting even in football (americans, read; soccer). Take David Beckham for example. He was a really good player. But when Real Madrid bought him from Manchester United, they payed an amount that at first sight would have appeared to be way to much. But since he has such a large, personal fanbase all over the world, and in Asia in particular, they deigned it worthwhile. To procure more fans for themselfs with the invested money, and also to get some back through jersey sales. Looks or popularity does not matter. Publicity stunts like this happens in other sports as well, and done correctly it's a very, very smart thing imo. Small risk, potentially high reward. David Beckham was purchased for a larger amount due to strong skill which boasted his popularity. This is a case where you have a gamer with little skill and some looks, she also clearly has no fanbase and there is no merchandise sale. Where is the value-added in recruiting this player other than her looks?
Lol, no. You are incorrect in this. He was a good player sure, but Real Madric had players on his position who where just as good if not better. Figo, cambiasso, Zidane, Solari, Nunez, Guti just to mention a few. His fame was based partially on his good looks, and his celebrity marriage to a spice girl. He was without a doubt the most famous football player in the world at that point, and with the largest fanbase. But noone ever suggested he was close to being the worlds best player.
So yes, it happens in other sports, that sometimes someone gets recruited partially on merits other then their skills.
Because of the potential. If she, through practice with the other players in the SlayerS house, becomes a good, solid player then not only will SlayerS have the first girl on their roster in the GSL who does well, they'll also have a _pretty_ girl on their roster who does well. This will give her more fans, with people being how they are. It will give them alot of extra publicity, which increases the likelihood of attracting new, casual fans.
And what is the risk? Say they keep her in their house, she practices a ton, but doesn't get better. Then they just dont play her in the GSTL. I honestly dont see the risk in proccuring a cute, female gamer that they believe have potential to be a good player, and do their best in trying to get her to become one. I see nothing but potential rewards, with them being the first ones out doing this.
edit: had to fix some annoying typos.
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On July 20 2011 01:17 Tyrgrim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 22:33 Mykill wrote:On July 19 2011 21:20 Tyrgrim wrote:On July 19 2011 20:57 Mykill wrote:
SlayerS_Jessica herself scouted based on her skills and looks.
Why e-sports is not a real sport: Sports teams do not recruit based on looks. No, but the popularity of a player has been known to influence recruiting even in football (americans, read; soccer). Take David Beckham for example. He was a really good player. But when Real Madrid bought him from Manchester United, they payed an amount that at first sight would have appeared to be way to much. But since he has such a large, personal fanbase all over the world, and in Asia in particular, they deigned it worthwhile. To procure more fans for themselfs with the invested money, and also to get some back through jersey sales. Looks or popularity does not matter. Publicity stunts like this happens in other sports as well, and done correctly it's a very, very smart thing imo. Small risk, potentially high reward. David Beckham was purchased for a larger amount due to strong skill which boasted his popularity. This is a case where you have a gamer with little skill and some looks, she also clearly has no fanbase and there is no merchandise sale. Where is the value-added in recruiting this player other than her looks? Lol, no. You are incorrect in this. He was a good player sure, but Real Madric had players on his position who where just as good if not better. Figo, cambiasso, Zidane, Solari, Nunez, Guti just to mention a few. His fame was based partially on his good looks, and his celebrity marriage to a spice girl. He was without a doubt the most famous football player in the world at that point, and with the largest fanbase. But noone ever suggested he was close to being the worlds best player. So yes, it happens in other sports, that sometimes someone gets recruited partially on merits other then their skills. Because of the potential. If she, through practice with the other players in the SlayerS house, becomes a good, solid player then not only will SlayerS have the first girl on their roster in the GSL who does well, they'll also have a _pretty_ girl on their roster who does well. This will give her more fans, with people being how they are. It will give them alot of extra publicity, which increases the likelihood of attracting new, casual fans. And what is the risk? Say they keep her in their house, she practices a ton, but doesn't get better. Then they just dont play her in the GSTL. I honestly dont see the risk in proccuring a cute, female gamer that they believe have potential to be a good player, and do their best in trying to get her to become one. I see nothing but potential rewards, with them being the first ones out doing this. edit: had to fix some annoying typos.
to be fair, Beckham was still kind of good when he joined Madrid
the Galaxy transfer on the other hand....
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On July 20 2011 01:31 sandyph wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 01:17 Tyrgrim wrote:On July 19 2011 22:33 Mykill wrote:On July 19 2011 21:20 Tyrgrim wrote:On July 19 2011 20:57 Mykill wrote:
SlayerS_Jessica herself scouted based on her skills and looks.
Why e-sports is not a real sport: Sports teams do not recruit based on looks. No, but the popularity of a player has been known to influence recruiting even in football (americans, read; soccer). Take David Beckham for example. He was a really good player. But when Real Madrid bought him from Manchester United, they payed an amount that at first sight would have appeared to be way to much. But since he has such a large, personal fanbase all over the world, and in Asia in particular, they deigned it worthwhile. To procure more fans for themselfs with the invested money, and also to get some back through jersey sales. Looks or popularity does not matter. Publicity stunts like this happens in other sports as well, and done correctly it's a very, very smart thing imo. Small risk, potentially high reward. David Beckham was purchased for a larger amount due to strong skill which boasted his popularity. This is a case where you have a gamer with little skill and some looks, she also clearly has no fanbase and there is no merchandise sale. Where is the value-added in recruiting this player other than her looks? Lol, no. You are incorrect in this. He was a good player sure, but Real Madric had players on his position who where just as good if not better. Figo, cambiasso, Zidane, Solari, Nunez, Guti just to mention a few. His fame was based partially on his good looks, and his celebrity marriage to a spice girl. He was without a doubt the most famous football player in the world at that point, and with the largest fanbase. But noone ever suggested he was close to being the worlds best player. So yes, it happens in other sports, that sometimes someone gets recruited partially on merits other then their skills. Because of the potential. If she, through practice with the other players in the SlayerS house, becomes a good, solid player then not only will SlayerS have the first girl on their roster in the GSL who does well, they'll also have a _pretty_ girl on their roster who does well. This will give her more fans, with people being how they are. It will give them alot of extra publicity, which increases the likelihood of attracting new, casual fans. And what is the risk? Say they keep her in their house, she practices a ton, but doesn't get better. Then they just dont play her in the GSTL. I honestly dont see the risk in proccuring a cute, female gamer that they believe have potential to be a good player, and do their best in trying to get her to become one. I see nothing but potential rewards, with them being the first ones out doing this. edit: had to fix some annoying typos. to be fair, Beckham was still kind of good when he joined Madrid the Galaxy transfer on the other hand....
Yes, yes. He was kind of good. But he was nowhere near worthy of $50 million dollors worth of good, not even half of it. They knew he would pay back the money they invested in his transfer through merchandise sale, and they where correct.
http://www.forbes.com/2007/07/07/beckham-soccer-marketing-face-markets-cx_pm_0707autofacescan01.html
A 137% increase in merchandising profits, when they only won 1 title during his 4 years there says quite a bit  .
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On July 19 2011 22:59 Lord_of_Chaos wrote:
What annoys me the most is how unfair this is to other female gamers who actually have skill but not looks. I'm sure there are Korean female gamers higher than gold, but because Eve has the looks she gets the chance.
No hating on Eve, she got an opportunity and took it. Hating on Slayers management instead.
How do you know that she is gold level? her gold acc is a month old. also the ladder is locked. best example is FXO. their accs was ranked diamond for a long time. it is pretty hard to get promoted in the korean ladder. another one would be destiny ranked as platin in korean ladder.
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On July 20 2011 01:17 Tyrgrim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 22:33 Mykill wrote:On July 19 2011 21:20 Tyrgrim wrote:On July 19 2011 20:57 Mykill wrote:
SlayerS_Jessica herself scouted based on her skills and looks.
Why e-sports is not a real sport: Sports teams do not recruit based on looks. No, but the popularity of a player has been known to influence recruiting even in football (americans, read; soccer). Take David Beckham for example. He was a really good player. But when Real Madrid bought him from Manchester United, they payed an amount that at first sight would have appeared to be way to much. But since he has such a large, personal fanbase all over the world, and in Asia in particular, they deigned it worthwhile. To procure more fans for themselfs with the invested money, and also to get some back through jersey sales. Looks or popularity does not matter. Publicity stunts like this happens in other sports as well, and done correctly it's a very, very smart thing imo. Small risk, potentially high reward. David Beckham was purchased for a larger amount due to strong skill which boasted his popularity. This is a case where you have a gamer with little skill and some looks, she also clearly has no fanbase and there is no merchandise sale. Where is the value-added in recruiting this player other than her looks? Lol, no. You are incorrect in this. He was a good player sure, but Real Madric had players on his position who where just as good if not better. Figo, cambiasso, Zidane, Solari, Nunez, Guti just to mention a few. His fame was based partially on his good looks, and his celebrity marriage to a spice girl. He was without a doubt the most famous football player in the world at that point, and with the largest fanbase. But noone ever suggested he was close to being the worlds best player. So yes, it happens in other sports, that sometimes someone gets recruited partially on merits other then their skills. Because of the potential. If she, through practice with the other players in the SlayerS house, becomes a good, solid player then not only will SlayerS have the first girl on their roster in the GSL who does well, they'll also have a _pretty_ girl on their roster who does well. This will give her more fans, with people being how they are. It will give them alot of extra publicity, which increases the likelihood of attracting new, casual fans. And what is the risk? Say they keep her in their house, she practices a ton, but doesn't get better. Then they just dont play her in the GSTL. I honestly dont see the risk in proccuring a cute, female gamer that they believe have potential to be a good player, and do their best in trying to get her to become one. I see nothing but potential rewards, with them being the first ones out doing this. edit: had to fix some annoying typos.
Well she's practising with the other SlayerS, so if she doesn't pan out, she has been wasting their practice time. Also the fact she is a girl, *might* interfere with the other SlayerS players(just like having a chick at a LAN in my experience always does). I wouldn't classify it as a *huge* risk, but there is definetely some risk/cost more than just feeding her.
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Is she good? I mean if SlayerS plans to play her then she must be right?
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Girl Generation is sure not the best singer or dancer in the world, but they have the look which make them popular; so they can make a lot of money for the record company. I am pretty sure Jessica used the same logic here.
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On July 20 2011 01:39 Zarahtra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 01:17 Tyrgrim wrote:On July 19 2011 22:33 Mykill wrote:On July 19 2011 21:20 Tyrgrim wrote:On July 19 2011 20:57 Mykill wrote:
SlayerS_Jessica herself scouted based on her skills and looks.
Why e-sports is not a real sport: Sports teams do not recruit based on looks. No, but the popularity of a player has been known to influence recruiting even in football (americans, read; soccer). Take David Beckham for example. He was a really good player. But when Real Madrid bought him from Manchester United, they payed an amount that at first sight would have appeared to be way to much. But since he has such a large, personal fanbase all over the world, and in Asia in particular, they deigned it worthwhile. To procure more fans for themselfs with the invested money, and also to get some back through jersey sales. Looks or popularity does not matter. Publicity stunts like this happens in other sports as well, and done correctly it's a very, very smart thing imo. Small risk, potentially high reward. David Beckham was purchased for a larger amount due to strong skill which boasted his popularity. This is a case where you have a gamer with little skill and some looks, she also clearly has no fanbase and there is no merchandise sale. Where is the value-added in recruiting this player other than her looks? Lol, no. You are incorrect in this. He was a good player sure, but Real Madric had players on his position who where just as good if not better. Figo, cambiasso, Zidane, Solari, Nunez, Guti just to mention a few. His fame was based partially on his good looks, and his celebrity marriage to a spice girl. He was without a doubt the most famous football player in the world at that point, and with the largest fanbase. But noone ever suggested he was close to being the worlds best player. So yes, it happens in other sports, that sometimes someone gets recruited partially on merits other then their skills. Because of the potential. If she, through practice with the other players in the SlayerS house, becomes a good, solid player then not only will SlayerS have the first girl on their roster in the GSL who does well, they'll also have a _pretty_ girl on their roster who does well. This will give her more fans, with people being how they are. It will give them alot of extra publicity, which increases the likelihood of attracting new, casual fans. And what is the risk? Say they keep her in their house, she practices a ton, but doesn't get better. Then they just dont play her in the GSTL. I honestly dont see the risk in proccuring a cute, female gamer that they believe have potential to be a good player, and do their best in trying to get her to become one. I see nothing but potential rewards, with them being the first ones out doing this. edit: had to fix some annoying typos. Well she's practising with the other SlayerS, so if she doesn't pan out, she has been wasting their practice time. Also the fact she is a girl, *might* interfere with the other SlayerS players(just like having a chick at a LAN in my experience always does). I wouldn't classify it as a *huge* risk, but there is definetely some risk/cost more than just feeding her.
how do YOU know that she is practicing with other SlayerS member ?
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It's SlayerS' business, why are people talking like they have anything to do with it?.
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On July 20 2011 01:43 sandyph wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 01:39 Zarahtra wrote:On July 20 2011 01:17 Tyrgrim wrote:On July 19 2011 22:33 Mykill wrote:On July 19 2011 21:20 Tyrgrim wrote:On July 19 2011 20:57 Mykill wrote:
SlayerS_Jessica herself scouted based on her skills and looks.
Why e-sports is not a real sport: Sports teams do not recruit based on looks. No, but the popularity of a player has been known to influence recruiting even in football (americans, read; soccer). Take David Beckham for example. He was a really good player. But when Real Madrid bought him from Manchester United, they payed an amount that at first sight would have appeared to be way to much. But since he has such a large, personal fanbase all over the world, and in Asia in particular, they deigned it worthwhile. To procure more fans for themselfs with the invested money, and also to get some back through jersey sales. Looks or popularity does not matter. Publicity stunts like this happens in other sports as well, and done correctly it's a very, very smart thing imo. Small risk, potentially high reward. David Beckham was purchased for a larger amount due to strong skill which boasted his popularity. This is a case where you have a gamer with little skill and some looks, she also clearly has no fanbase and there is no merchandise sale. Where is the value-added in recruiting this player other than her looks? Lol, no. You are incorrect in this. He was a good player sure, but Real Madric had players on his position who where just as good if not better. Figo, cambiasso, Zidane, Solari, Nunez, Guti just to mention a few. His fame was based partially on his good looks, and his celebrity marriage to a spice girl. He was without a doubt the most famous football player in the world at that point, and with the largest fanbase. But noone ever suggested he was close to being the worlds best player. So yes, it happens in other sports, that sometimes someone gets recruited partially on merits other then their skills. Because of the potential. If she, through practice with the other players in the SlayerS house, becomes a good, solid player then not only will SlayerS have the first girl on their roster in the GSL who does well, they'll also have a _pretty_ girl on their roster who does well. This will give her more fans, with people being how they are. It will give them alot of extra publicity, which increases the likelihood of attracting new, casual fans. And what is the risk? Say they keep her in their house, she practices a ton, but doesn't get better. Then they just dont play her in the GSTL. I honestly dont see the risk in proccuring a cute, female gamer that they believe have potential to be a good player, and do their best in trying to get her to become one. I see nothing but potential rewards, with them being the first ones out doing this. edit: had to fix some annoying typos. Well she's practising with the other SlayerS, so if she doesn't pan out, she has been wasting their practice time. Also the fact she is a girl, *might* interfere with the other SlayerS players(just like having a chick at a LAN in my experience always does). I wouldn't classify it as a *huge* risk, but there is definetely some risk/cost more than just feeding her. how do YOU know that she is practicing with other SlayerS member ?
Well if she isn't, it isn't like she's gaining anything from being signed up with the team, so she wouldn't improve at any respectable rate(well improve more than others), making getting her into the team rather redundant. But you are indeed right, I don't have anything but assumptions, that she is.
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On July 20 2011 01:44 Garnet wrote:
It's SlayerS' business, why are people talking like they have anything to do with it?.
Because it was a public announcement?
Shit, you have a point, like 80% of the stuff on this forums is the team or player's own business, their poor performance? Their business. Their new pick-ups? Their business. Their departures? Their business. Their team line-up? Their business.
Everything is their business, but it's made public and people express their opinions on it.
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Cute girl, I'm curious if she is for promotions or advertising? I have heard that she is not at the professional level (yet), I wonder why they are considering her playing in the team league. I hope that doesn't bring down the skill level of the team league. We'll see how it goes. Good luck Eve!!
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Soooo happy for her. I hope she learns a lot and becomes a great player (we all start out on the bottom, and someone will always be better  ). She must be getting really close with her teammates after all the "stuff" going on recently. I'm sure their support and advice is great and she probably really feels like a member of the team, even after so little time with them.
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