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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 14 2011 12:37 GMT
#301
On July 14 2011 21:34 Samhax wrote:
Maybe it's 22 Korean age?


That would still make her 20 or 21. Not 15 rofl.
Samhax
Profile Joined August 2010
1054 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 12:41:21
July 14 2011 12:39 GMT
#302
On July 14 2011 21:37 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 21:34 Samhax wrote:
Maybe it's 22 Korean age?


That would still make her 20 or 21. Not 15 rofl.


Look at Boxer and Yellow, they looked like 20 guys...

progamming is good for your health, it makes you look younger :p
Steamroller
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland756 Posts
July 14 2011 12:40 GMT
#303
What no sexist jokes so far? Ok heres one, i quess they needed someone helping at the kitchen trololol! jk jk!

User was warned for this post
Nevarix
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 12:45:23
July 14 2011 12:40 GMT
#304
On July 14 2011 21:37 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 21:34 Samhax wrote:
Maybe it's 22 Korean age?


That would still make her 20 or 21. Not 15 rofl.


The article says she's turning 22 this year. If I've understood korean age correctly, you simply add a year to your age at the start of every year.

Edit: Kinda forgot to add my point, if it would have been korean age, she would turn 23 next year, or she would have turned 22 already this year.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
July 14 2011 12:42 GMT
#305
On July 14 2011 21:40 Nevarix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 21:37 Numy wrote:
On July 14 2011 21:34 Samhax wrote:
Maybe it's 22 Korean age?


That would still make her 20 or 21. Not 15 rofl.


The article says she's turning 22 this year. If I've understood korean age correctly, you simply add a year to your age at the start of every year.

Correct, you're born 1 years old.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
July 14 2011 12:44 GMT
#306
How unfair, I think every pro team needs to have both a male and a female based on looks!

I am not young enough to know everything.
Thorn Raven
Profile Joined November 2010
United States126 Posts
July 14 2011 12:45 GMT
#307
Super cute!!!

Eve hwaiting!
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2584 Posts
July 14 2011 12:46 GMT
#308
On July 14 2011 21:40 Nevarix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 21:37 Numy wrote:
On July 14 2011 21:34 Samhax wrote:
Maybe it's 22 Korean age?


That would still make her 20 or 21. Not 15 rofl.


The article says she's turning 22 this year. If I've understood korean age correctly, you simply add a year to your age at the start of every year.

That's correct, but you also start at age one instead of zero. So if you're born very late in the year, your Korean age could be two years more than your age according to the Western system. If you were born on the last day of the year, for example, you'd turn two on your second day of life.

East Asian age reckoning on Wikipedia
The frumious Bandersnatch
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
July 14 2011 12:47 GMT
#309
On July 14 2011 21:44 Jiddra wrote:
How unfair, I think every pro team needs to have both a male and a female based on looks!



Well, SlayerS_Jessica already chose Slayers_Boxer based on his looks and skills, so one person of each gender was chosen for the same reasons... no sexism there :p
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
July 14 2011 12:48 GMT
#310
On July 14 2011 18:30 SundeR. wrote:
eswdgrrehdrggrewgdfhrthdfgerg

On July 14 2011 18:35 NagAfightinG wrote:
Hnnnnng

User was warned for this post



:D

I hope she kicks some ass
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
July 14 2011 12:49 GMT
#311
She's cute ^^
i will wait for her play to judge her though. Not sure why they felt it necessary to state that she was partly picked for her looks. Sketches me out a little

also, is she staying in the team house?

Either way, gl to her. Slayers Fighting!
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 14 2011 12:49 GMT
#312
Hope she does well, I was hoping to hear that toSsGirl made the switch lol
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
July 14 2011 12:52 GMT
#313
Must resist calling her a cutie... I look forward to seeing her play.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
leBIGcrab
Profile Joined February 2011
France313 Posts
July 14 2011 13:00 GMT
#314
On July 14 2011 21:21 AXygnus wrote:
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On July 14 2011 21:19 Dark Stalker wrote:
Blacks are under-represented in E-sports.


Temp0?


But now he's just plat...
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
July 14 2011 13:00 GMT
#315
Well SlayersJessica is always given thanks in any player interviews so she does help the team alot. Maybe 2 women will finally drag mma out of a slump (:
DonkeyShot
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany63 Posts
July 14 2011 13:02 GMT
#316
On July 14 2011 21:03 CaptainTwig wrote:
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On July 14 2011 20:11 DonkeyShot wrote:
Really questionable decision. It's incredible that this gets so much positive feedback.

Regardless of how well she can actually play, this is clearly a publicity move. That in itself wouldn't be too bad but:

1. It appears like a demonstration of equal opportunities and emancipation while
2. subversively reinforcing chauvinistic stereotypes by associating womens success with their appeal to men.

So it's not just sexist, it even disguises itself as the opposite. It puts womens success at the mercy of their appeal towards men, which is one of the most subtle and unfair prejudices towards women. And you cannot tell me that her looks and appeal to men did not play a role in her recruitment. They could have picked thousands of other girls. And if one tries to argue that one has to pick from the thousands of girls by some aspect, then making it her looks reinforces the picture of the dominance of male interest whether you want it or not.

The people here saying that her looks are not important are making it even worse, because they are acting as if this issue did not actually exist. Even if she plays well, it still reinforces the stereotype that only women who appeal to men can be successful. And the same is true for TossGirl.

You should rethink your enthusiasm.


'sexism' I think thats taking it a bit far. claiming this is a scheme to excisise womens rights publicly, I would say is closer to sexism my friend

She was picked to appeal to men? aruable
She was picked for her looks? Yes she was. Jessica publicly announced it!

Jessica publicly announced it. Doesn't that mean anything to you? for me personally it's just another reminder that Korea isn't England or American or Germany etc. You need to apply some culteral context to the sitaution as I said earlier Let's not forget Korea is on the other side of the planet, being attractive in Korea is a big deal, seeking beauty isn't looked at as being something shallow or insubstantial.


Cultural context is important, I agree, but it is not an excuse. It's hard to argue for cultural relativism in a globalised world and the starcraft scene of wich this is a part goes far beyond Korea. In particular, this picture is not just presented to Koreans but to us as well und is thus not just a part of their culture but of ours as well. I do not see good looks as virtuous because I do not think it is a conscious decision to look good and if Koreans think otherwise (I trust you on this) then I have to disagree because I do not see how these values could exist independently of each other today.

Also, I do not have a problem with "schemes" to exercise womens rights publicly. My problem is that this appears to be one while it is actually reinforcing unfair rolemodels.

On July 14 2011 21:15 Novalisk wrote:

Sex appeal isn't the only appeal. If a grandmaster girl came around, men would like her even if she wasn't a looker.


That's not the point. It's about putting pretty girls in positions where Grandmasters girls are supposed to be.
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
July 14 2011 13:04 GMT
#317
On July 14 2011 22:02 DonkeyShot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 21:03 CaptainTwig wrote:
On July 14 2011 20:11 DonkeyShot wrote:
Really questionable decision. It's incredible that this gets so much positive feedback.

Regardless of how well she can actually play, this is clearly a publicity move. That in itself wouldn't be too bad but:

1. It appears like a demonstration of equal opportunities and emancipation while
2. subversively reinforcing chauvinistic stereotypes by associating womens success with their appeal to men.

So it's not just sexist, it even disguises itself as the opposite. It puts womens success at the mercy of their appeal towards men, which is one of the most subtle and unfair prejudices towards women. And you cannot tell me that her looks and appeal to men did not play a role in her recruitment. They could have picked thousands of other girls. And if one tries to argue that one has to pick from the thousands of girls by some aspect, then making it her looks reinforces the picture of the dominance of male interest whether you want it or not.

The people here saying that her looks are not important are making it even worse, because they are acting as if this issue did not actually exist. Even if she plays well, it still reinforces the stereotype that only women who appeal to men can be successful. And the same is true for TossGirl.

You should rethink your enthusiasm.


'sexism' I think thats taking it a bit far. claiming this is a scheme to excisise womens rights publicly, I would say is closer to sexism my friend

She was picked to appeal to men? aruable
She was picked for her looks? Yes she was. Jessica publicly announced it!

Jessica publicly announced it. Doesn't that mean anything to you? for me personally it's just another reminder that Korea isn't England or American or Germany etc. You need to apply some culteral context to the sitaution as I said earlier Let's not forget Korea is on the other side of the planet, being attractive in Korea is a big deal, seeking beauty isn't looked at as being something shallow or insubstantial.


Cultural context is important, I agree, but it is not an excuse. It's hard to argue for cultural relativism in a globalised world and the starcraft scene of wich this is a part goes far beyond Korea. In particular, this picture is not just presented to Koreans but to us as well und is thus not just a part of their culture but of ours as well. I do not see good looks as virtuous because I do not think it is a conscious decision to look good and if Koreans think otherwise (I trust you on this) then I have to disagree because I do not see how these values could exist independently of each other today.

Also, I do not have a problem with "schemes" to exercise womens rights publicly. My problem is that this appears to be one while it is actually reinforcing unfair rolemodels.

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 21:15 Novalisk wrote:

Sex appeal isn't the only appeal. If a grandmaster girl came around, men would like her even if she wasn't a looker.


That's not the point. It's about putting pretty girls in positions where Grandmasters girls are supposed to be.


Wait, you honestly think there are grandmaster girls that aren't getting into teams because they're not pretty enough?
/commercial
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
July 14 2011 13:04 GMT
#318
Hopefully she's actually good and not just a mascot.
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 13:05:56
July 14 2011 13:05 GMT
#319
Hopefully this will at as a catalyst for other female progamers to get into larger events
Thorn Raven
Profile Joined November 2010
United States126 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 13:07:37
July 14 2011 13:06 GMT
#320
It's a good move to choose her based on her looks.

Considering that most of the fanbase is male, an attractive female player is great for viewership.

I'm sure she'll gather a good amount of fans, even if her play is lackluster.

Ka Yeon made a good move recruiting this player. Can't wait to see how she plays!
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