On July 14 2011 21:34 Samhax wrote:
Maybe it's 22 Korean age?
Maybe it's 22 Korean age?
That would still make her 20 or 21. Not 15 rofl.
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Numy
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On July 14 2011 21:34 Samhax wrote: Maybe it's 22 Korean age? That would still make her 20 or 21. Not 15 rofl. | ||
Samhax
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On July 14 2011 21:37 Numy wrote: That would still make her 20 or 21. Not 15 rofl. Look at Boxer and Yellow, they looked like 20 guys... progamming is good for your health, it makes you look younger :p | ||
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Nevarix
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On July 14 2011 21:37 Numy wrote: That would still make her 20 or 21. Not 15 rofl. The article says she's turning 22 this year. If I've understood korean age correctly, you simply add a year to your age at the start of every year. Edit: Kinda forgot to add my point, if it would have been korean age, she would turn 23 next year, or she would have turned 22 already this year. | ||
vyyye
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On July 14 2011 21:40 Nevarix wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2011 21:37 Numy wrote: On July 14 2011 21:34 Samhax wrote: Maybe it's 22 Korean age? That would still make her 20 or 21. Not 15 rofl. The article says she's turning 22 this year. If I've understood korean age correctly, you simply add a year to your age at the start of every year. Correct, you're born 1 years old. | ||
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AmericanUmlaut
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On July 14 2011 21:40 Nevarix wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2011 21:37 Numy wrote: On July 14 2011 21:34 Samhax wrote: Maybe it's 22 Korean age? That would still make her 20 or 21. Not 15 rofl. The article says she's turning 22 this year. If I've understood korean age correctly, you simply add a year to your age at the start of every year. That's correct, but you also start at age one instead of zero. So if you're born very late in the year, your Korean age could be two years more than your age according to the Western system. If you were born on the last day of the year, for example, you'd turn two on your second day of life. East Asian age reckoning on Wikipedia | ||
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On July 14 2011 21:44 Jiddra wrote: How unfair, I think every pro team needs to have both a male and a female based on looks! Well, SlayerS_Jessica already chose Slayers_Boxer based on his looks and skills, so one person of each gender was chosen for the same reasons... no sexism there :p | ||
BrTarolg
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On July 14 2011 18:30 SundeR. wrote: eswdgrrehdrggrewgdfhrthdfgerg On July 14 2011 18:35 NagAfightinG wrote: Hnnnnng User was warned for this post :D I hope she kicks some ass | ||
SxYSpAz
United States1451 Posts
i will wait for her play to judge her though. Not sure why they felt it necessary to state that she was partly picked for her looks. Sketches me out a little ![]() also, is she staying in the team house? Either way, gl to her. Slayers Fighting! | ||
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On July 14 2011 21:21 AXygnus wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2011 21:19 Dark Stalker wrote: Blacks are under-represented in E-sports. Temp0? But now he's just plat... | ||
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DonkeyShot
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On July 14 2011 21:03 CaptainTwig wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2011 20:11 DonkeyShot wrote: Really questionable decision. It's incredible that this gets so much positive feedback. Regardless of how well she can actually play, this is clearly a publicity move. That in itself wouldn't be too bad but: 1. It appears like a demonstration of equal opportunities and emancipation while 2. subversively reinforcing chauvinistic stereotypes by associating womens success with their appeal to men. So it's not just sexist, it even disguises itself as the opposite. It puts womens success at the mercy of their appeal towards men, which is one of the most subtle and unfair prejudices towards women. And you cannot tell me that her looks and appeal to men did not play a role in her recruitment. They could have picked thousands of other girls. And if one tries to argue that one has to pick from the thousands of girls by some aspect, then making it her looks reinforces the picture of the dominance of male interest whether you want it or not. The people here saying that her looks are not important are making it even worse, because they are acting as if this issue did not actually exist. Even if she plays well, it still reinforces the stereotype that only women who appeal to men can be successful. And the same is true for TossGirl. You should rethink your enthusiasm. 'sexism' I think thats taking it a bit far. claiming this is a scheme to excisise womens rights publicly, I would say is closer to sexism my friend She was picked to appeal to men? aruable She was picked for her looks? Yes she was. Jessica publicly announced it! Jessica publicly announced it. Doesn't that mean anything to you? for me personally it's just another reminder that Korea isn't England or American or Germany etc. You need to apply some culteral context to the sitaution as I said earlier Let's not forget Korea is on the other side of the planet, being attractive in Korea is a big deal, seeking beauty isn't looked at as being something shallow or insubstantial. Cultural context is important, I agree, but it is not an excuse. It's hard to argue for cultural relativism in a globalised world and the starcraft scene of wich this is a part goes far beyond Korea. In particular, this picture is not just presented to Koreans but to us as well und is thus not just a part of their culture but of ours as well. I do not see good looks as virtuous because I do not think it is a conscious decision to look good and if Koreans think otherwise (I trust you on this) then I have to disagree because I do not see how these values could exist independently of each other today. Also, I do not have a problem with "schemes" to exercise womens rights publicly. My problem is that this appears to be one while it is actually reinforcing unfair rolemodels. On July 14 2011 21:15 Novalisk wrote: Sex appeal isn't the only appeal. If a grandmaster girl came around, men would like her even if she wasn't a looker. That's not the point. It's about putting pretty girls in positions where Grandmasters girls are supposed to be. | ||
Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
On July 14 2011 22:02 DonkeyShot wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2011 21:03 CaptainTwig wrote: On July 14 2011 20:11 DonkeyShot wrote: Really questionable decision. It's incredible that this gets so much positive feedback. Regardless of how well she can actually play, this is clearly a publicity move. That in itself wouldn't be too bad but: 1. It appears like a demonstration of equal opportunities and emancipation while 2. subversively reinforcing chauvinistic stereotypes by associating womens success with their appeal to men. So it's not just sexist, it even disguises itself as the opposite. It puts womens success at the mercy of their appeal towards men, which is one of the most subtle and unfair prejudices towards women. And you cannot tell me that her looks and appeal to men did not play a role in her recruitment. They could have picked thousands of other girls. And if one tries to argue that one has to pick from the thousands of girls by some aspect, then making it her looks reinforces the picture of the dominance of male interest whether you want it or not. The people here saying that her looks are not important are making it even worse, because they are acting as if this issue did not actually exist. Even if she plays well, it still reinforces the stereotype that only women who appeal to men can be successful. And the same is true for TossGirl. You should rethink your enthusiasm. 'sexism' I think thats taking it a bit far. claiming this is a scheme to excisise womens rights publicly, I would say is closer to sexism my friend She was picked to appeal to men? aruable She was picked for her looks? Yes she was. Jessica publicly announced it! Jessica publicly announced it. Doesn't that mean anything to you? for me personally it's just another reminder that Korea isn't England or American or Germany etc. You need to apply some culteral context to the sitaution as I said earlier Let's not forget Korea is on the other side of the planet, being attractive in Korea is a big deal, seeking beauty isn't looked at as being something shallow or insubstantial. Cultural context is important, I agree, but it is not an excuse. It's hard to argue for cultural relativism in a globalised world and the starcraft scene of wich this is a part goes far beyond Korea. In particular, this picture is not just presented to Koreans but to us as well und is thus not just a part of their culture but of ours as well. I do not see good looks as virtuous because I do not think it is a conscious decision to look good and if Koreans think otherwise (I trust you on this) then I have to disagree because I do not see how these values could exist independently of each other today. Also, I do not have a problem with "schemes" to exercise womens rights publicly. My problem is that this appears to be one while it is actually reinforcing unfair rolemodels. Show nested quote + On July 14 2011 21:15 Novalisk wrote: Sex appeal isn't the only appeal. If a grandmaster girl came around, men would like her even if she wasn't a looker. That's not the point. It's about putting pretty girls in positions where Grandmasters girls are supposed to be. Wait, you honestly think there are grandmaster girls that aren't getting into teams because they're not pretty enough? | ||
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Thorn Raven
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Considering that most of the fanbase is male, an attractive female player is great for viewership. I'm sure she'll gather a good amount of fans, even if her play is lackluster. Ka Yeon made a good move recruiting this player. Can't wait to see how she plays! | ||
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