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AlphaWing
Profile Joined March 2011
Taiwan36 Posts
July 14 2011 00:03 GMT
#161
On July 14 2011 08:46 mindwave1sg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 06:15 AlphaWing wrote:
Seems like this has something to do with Radicall...

Also see this topic
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=243511
And this topic:
http://no.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/io16x/anyone_else_just_get_banned_for_hacking/

Seems like Taiwan server struck first, now this is happening in other servers...


not sure where you got your info but I asked them and they said it's ban expire date.

This one is mine in english version.


Origination In-game Activity
Ban Type: in-game activities that violate the Terms of Use.
Expires: Friday, July 15, 2011 6:59:33 PM PDT (in 2 days, 2 hours)
Ban Reason: N/A



I got it from the Customer Support from BlizzardTW.
maybe it is just that the Customer Support in BlizzardTW, doesn't know anything about this.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 14 2011 00:04 GMT
#162
On July 14 2011 08:56 furymonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 04:11 ClanRH.TV wrote:
Even if people were hacking, they would say that they weren't. Nobody wants to be dubbed a "hacker". I'm sure a ton of the people denying it are just denying it because they don't want to be seen in that light.


Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 07:42 gosuMalicE wrote:
Sounds like a bunch of hackers trying to make up excuses, I doubt blizzard "accidentally" banned anyone don't pay attention to these trolls.


Shame on you guys, it was indeed some sort of accident, now we start seeing reports people got their account back.



Trolls will be trolls, and most likely hackers too. Don't mind them, just trying to cover their own guilty tracks.
secret - never again
AlphaWing
Profile Joined March 2011
Taiwan36 Posts
July 14 2011 00:15 GMT
#163
A letter from Blizzard:


Greetings,

Recently, a StarCraft II account under your Battle.net account was actioned
for potential violations of our Terms of Use. Upon further review of the
action taken upon this account, we reversed the action previously applied.


Reason for Action: Use of 3rd Party Programs
Previous Account Action: Closure
New Account action: Warning

Please note that while the action has been overturned, we still urge users to
be cautious when utilizing any sort of 3rd party program that may interact
with StarCraft II. Any modification of the executable or the way it runs is
in direct violation of the Battle.net Terms of Use.

In the end, we want Battle.net to be a fun and safe environment for all
players. It is to this end that we enforce our Battle.net Terms of Use and
In-Game Policies (http://us.blizzard.com/support/article/SC2policies
Jim Xiang Zhi
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia11 Posts
July 14 2011 02:30 GMT
#164
I'm worrying about they got accounts back and will use cheats, harassment or frame up people and make people have lost friends again, there's no making up excuse anymore when Blizzard warned to taiwanese for long time ago, they still need to follow BNet terms of use for all the time.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 14 2011 06:20 GMT
#165
On July 14 2011 11:30 Jim Xiang Zhi wrote:
I'm worrying about they got accounts back and will use cheats, harassment or frame up people and make people have lost friends again, there's no making up excuse anymore when Blizzard warned to taiwanese for long time ago, they still need to follow BNet terms of use for all the time.

-_-

You cant be serious, its like you havent read a single part of the thread.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
July 14 2011 06:37 GMT
#166
Pretty clearly there was some kind of mixup, so anyone reacting too crazily to this really needs a reality check and should be more sensible.
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 07:12:22
July 14 2011 07:11 GMT
#167
I am sorry, but what is RC you guys talking about? Is this a kind of program that have no related to SC2 but was mistaken as cheat?

EDIT: Nvm, I found out about what RC is now
Terran
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4200 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 07:23:03
July 14 2011 07:20 GMT
#168
oh blizzard, how you amuse me...
( ・´ー・`)
DJams
Profile Joined May 2011
United States447 Posts
July 14 2011 07:26 GMT
#169
As unreasonable as it sounds, Blizzard has the full rights to do whatever they just did.
You all have signed the agreement when opening that battle.net account, So respect their authority!
usa#1
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
July 14 2011 07:33 GMT
#170
Blizzard is so fail. :l
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Jim Xiang Zhi
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia11 Posts
July 14 2011 11:16 GMT
#171
On July 14 2011 15:20 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 11:30 Jim Xiang Zhi wrote:
I'm worrying about they got accounts back and will use cheats, harassment or frame up people and make people have lost friends again, there's no making up excuse anymore when Blizzard warned to taiwanese for long time ago, they still need to follow BNet terms of use for all the time.

-_-

You cant be serious, its like you havent read a single part of the thread.


okay
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 14 2011 15:04 GMT
#172
On July 14 2011 20:16 Jim Xiang Zhi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 15:20 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On July 14 2011 11:30 Jim Xiang Zhi wrote:
I'm worrying about they got accounts back and will use cheats, harassment or frame up people and make people have lost friends again, there's no making up excuse anymore when Blizzard warned to taiwanese for long time ago, they still need to follow BNet terms of use for all the time.

-_-

You cant be serious, its like you havent read a single part of the thread.


okay

I mean, its pretty clear that Blizzard banned these people because their anti-hack was turning up false positives, I dont think you need to worry about the vast, vast majority of these players being cheaters.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
July 14 2011 15:12 GMT
#173
On July 14 2011 16:26 DJams wrote:
As unreasonable as it sounds, Blizzard has the full rights to do whatever they just did.
You all have signed the agreement when opening that battle.net account, So respect their authority!


You talk like if somewhere in the User licence it said your soul will be theirs, and that you'll have to work for them after you turn 18, for free, it gives them full rights to go ahead and actually do it.

"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
DJams
Profile Joined May 2011
United States447 Posts
July 14 2011 16:40 GMT
#174
On July 15 2011 00:12 Tschis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 16:26 DJams wrote:
As unreasonable as it sounds, Blizzard has the full rights to do whatever they just did.
You all have signed the agreement when opening that battle.net account, So respect their authority!


You talk like if somewhere in the User licence it said your soul will be theirs, and that you'll have to work for them after you turn 18, for free, it gives them full rights to go ahead and actually do it.




I'm sure that is in the EULA, but I bet you didn't read it, so...
Although I think a lot of ppl don't mind working for Blizzard, for free.
usa#1
kochujang
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1226 Posts
July 15 2011 01:44 GMT
#175
On July 14 2011 11:30 Jim Xiang Zhi wrote:
I'm worrying about they got accounts back and will use cheats, harassment or frame up people and make people have lost friends again, there's no making up excuse anymore when Blizzard warned to taiwanese for long time ago, they still need to follow BNet terms of use for all the time.

Why are you trying so hard to make the Taiwanese seem like villains? Do you have a grudge or something?
kedinik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States352 Posts
July 15 2011 01:56 GMT
#176
Xiang Zhi reads like a spam bot.

Almost seems like he is actually saying something.
Jim Xiang Zhi
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia11 Posts
July 15 2011 03:32 GMT
#177
On July 15 2011 00:04 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 20:16 Jim Xiang Zhi wrote:
On July 14 2011 15:20 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On July 14 2011 11:30 Jim Xiang Zhi wrote:
I'm worrying about they got accounts back and will use cheats, harassment or frame up people and make people have lost friends again, there's no making up excuse anymore when Blizzard warned to taiwanese for long time ago, they still need to follow BNet terms of use for all the time.

-_-

You cant be serious, its like you havent read a single part of the thread.


okay

I mean, its pretty clear that Blizzard banned these people because their anti-hack was turning up false positives, I dont think you need to worry about the vast, vast majority of these players being cheaters.


I know what you mean of this, no worries.
Jim Xiang Zhi
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia11 Posts
July 15 2011 03:36 GMT
#178
On July 15 2011 10:44 kochujang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 11:30 Jim Xiang Zhi wrote:
I'm worrying about they got accounts back and will use cheats, harassment or frame up people and make people have lost friends again, there's no making up excuse anymore when Blizzard warned to taiwanese for long time ago, they still need to follow BNet terms of use for all the time.

Why are you trying so hard to make the Taiwanese seem like villains? Do you have a grudge or something?


This post is over and no bump anymore, I'm not villains but I knew what's going on, just play fairs and nice as you will, no needs trying that argument.
Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
July 15 2011 03:41 GMT
#179
As long as blizzard admits they are wrong when they have a false positive and gives people back their account I'm happy about it. I would rather that they try as hard as they can to catch cheaters and get a few false positives than do nothing because they fear the wrath of the fans over a mistakenly banned account. People need to understand that they are simply trying their best to ensure a fair ladder for the players, its a hell of a lot more than most game companies do.
BlizzrdSlave
Profile Joined June 2011
161 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 03:50:44
July 15 2011 03:46 GMT
#180
On July 13 2011 13:26 AlphaWing wrote:
There has been some madness in Taiwan right now,
not because of the server merge between TW server and KR server,
but because of the account ban just occurred hours ago.

Lots of people has been baned by Blizzard,(hundreds or more)
but there has been a lot people saying that they'd never use any hack programs or any add-ins.
Show nested quote +
"I just only play Bejeweled in my whole starcraft career, and I still got banned!" said ventxyz one of the player that has been banned.


People had been telephoning BlizzardTW for information and help, but in vain.
Now some people are shouting out to gather up and ask the Consumer Protection Commission for help.

There are some that suspected an error had happened to the server while moving the data from TW server to KR server. But everything now is unclear.

We wish the best for the people who had been misbanned, and ashame those who use illegal add-ons.

----------
Update:
The people who got banned, received a letter from Blizzard, of course,
But the interesting thing is that the Sender of the E-mail is not "Blizzard-Starcraft" but "Blizzard-World of Warcraft" and it is not written in Chinese or English either, it is written in Korean which most people can't understand.
This news is from Bahamut, the largest gaming forum in Taiwan.


---------
Update:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 15:43 KaienFEMC wrote:
I just heard more stories from the Taiwanese forums.

Some guy received a letter from Blizzard saying that their NA account is banned, but he does not have an NA account to begin with.

Some people had their entire account "deleted", as in they could not even log on to the battle.net webpage. It is like the account did not exist at all. (If you were banned, you can still log on and your status will become "frozen").

If the above stories were true, I think it is most likely that Blizzard had a database error. I guess we can only wait and see LOL



---------
Update:
Now there are people recording stats of how many players been banned, and how many are not.

this one is made by Joeman, a commentator in Taiwan:
http://goo.gl/2oKWi
Red is banned, Blue is safe not banned.
This document updates every 5 minutes.

Now is like 39.36% of people has been banned...

There is a poll being held in Taiwan, because of so many people being banned,
Currently 714 people has answered the poll,
281 got banned, 39.36% of total
463 uses RC, 64.85% of total

For those who got banned:
253 are using RC, 90.04% of those being banned

For those who use RC:
253 are banned, 54.64% of those using RC.


---------
Update:

This is silly,
someone got banned and opened the mail sent by Blizzard,
and this what he saw:
http://i.imgur.com/8UUlE.jpg

Show nested quote +

Battle.net Account: JEFF*****@yahoo.com.tw
Player ID:
Punishment: Banned Forever
Reason: Third party Program


1. Look at below, his account is a*********@hotmail.com,
JEFF*****@yahoo.com.tw is not his account.
2. The Player ID is blank.
3. The owner of this Email said he didn't use any third party programs.

This is getting hilarious.


---------
Update:

Another screen shot by the same user:
http://i.imgur.com/zqXbX.jpg

Show nested quote +

Origination: In game activity
Type of ban: Violation of User treaty
Ban end date: 2011/7/16
Reason of ban: NON


Being banned for no reason.....

Another guy with the same result:
http://i.imgur.com/ib8h2.jpg
Another guy in NA server, this is in English:
http://i.imgur.com/0J31r.jpg

---------
Update:

Seems like this got something to do with Radicall....
Also see this topic
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=243511
And this topic:
http://no.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/io16x/anyone_else_just_get_banned_for_hacking/


---------
Update:
Breaking NEWS!!

People in Taiwan just got their Accounts back!! :D


---------
Update:

A letter from Blizzard:

Show nested quote +

Greetings,

Recently, a StarCraft II account under your Battle.net account was actioned
for potential violations of our Terms of Use. Upon further review of the
action taken upon this account, we reversed the action previously applied.


Reason for Action: Use of 3rd Party Programs
Previous Account Action: Closure
New Account action: Warning

Please note that while the action has been overturned, we still urge users to
be cautious when utilizing any sort of 3rd party program that may interact
with StarCraft II. Any modification of the executable or the way it runs is
in direct violation of the Battle.net Terms of Use.

In the end, we want Battle.net to be a fun and safe environment for all
players. It is to this end that we enforce our Battle.net Terms of Use and
In-Game Policies (http://us.blizzard.com/support/article/SC2policies



lol, welcome to the corporate face. I told u guys theey'd do us like this.


here's their canned response, which Im guessing all people that called to overturn ti got "After thorough investigation, we decided the course of action we took was legit". Right?

Because they don't. they just ignore it and reply with that e-mail so you will go away.

They don't want to admit fault.
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