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all this reminds me of this "FXO is no rocking GTSL, they are ruining foreign e-sports!" story. Just because he doesn't fulfill people's expectations they feel like he let them down. HE DOESN'T OWE YOU ANYTHING!
On July 12 2011 15:14 Executor1 wrote:
Yea i agree, to me it just seems wierd and rather childish because i go travelling for months at a time and have a blast, he couldnt even last 2 weeks in a foreign country? I guess i expect more out of progamers, i dont expect him to go very far if he cant even be away from home for more than a week or two though.
maybe the answer ist: he is not you!
On July 12 2011 15:35 ilmman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 15:31 bovi wrote:
I suspect other reasons for him leaving. could be promises not fulfilled etc. disagreement with management style / capabilities. inability to make friends etc.
yer im suspecting he is getting bullied. I dont see why he would throw away an experience like that so easily. I mean just look at him, even i would take measures to bully him just because of the way he looks.
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On July 12 2011 15:44 Serpico wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 06:59 fourColo wrote:On July 12 2011 06:52 Shockk wrote:
I like how every second post is by someone who judges Sheth's decision without knowing anything about the background, the reasons, his contract details or other important information.
He went to Korea, he competed, he leaves. His team and manager appear to be ok with it, so his contract probably covers such a case. That he's leaving his team without a captain in the GSL is unfortunate, certainly. But it's not a catastrophe and, let's face it, FXO will need more than moral support and foreigner sympathy to win, they'll get rolled anyway (at least this season).
I'd like to know how many of you loud-mouthed protesters would want to go home again - badly! - after having been in Korea for a while, pursuing your "dream" (or how many other progamers that aren't in Korea but would like to). There are several sayings about the downside of dreams coming true; maybe this has happened to Sheth.
Anyway, his team accepts it, and so should you. And stop judging Sheth unless you know facts. The people criticizing his decision probably have no problem moving around like most adults his age... I've spent a month in Korea on vacation which is more than Sheth and I lived in youth hostels so it's not like I had a lot of privacy. It was a HUGE highlight of my life. So much good food, tons of friends I'm still in contact with today, amusement parks, free BW to watch, noraebang, TONS of clubs, amazing public transit, palaces, beautiful islands, parks, tours, it was great. I know going to Seoul for SC2 wouldn't be about having fun but being exposed to a different culture is worth it by itself. And you aren't sheth so your experience is meaningless. People aren't generic, monolithic beings that all think and act the same.
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On July 12 2011 16:16 okay320 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 16:04 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Sheth only traveled to his first LAN a few months ago, now he went to Korea. It wasn't working out for him too well and, due to some logistics issues that changed a few things, he decided to head back home. What are theses issues? did he poop the bed, or what?
read his statement page 16 idiot.
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i think the real reason is his snoring. he was snoring a lot and sharing rooms with other gamers, and they were getting pissed off at his snoring thats all there is to it.
i can't remember who it was, but in an interview i read one of the FXO members commented on someone snoring at night, saying "you can guess who it was".
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Seth made a brave choise here. The life of a pro in Korea isn't Easy. It sometimes reminds my of a documentary I once saw about WoW "gold farmers". He maybe should have considered going to Korea better, but when pursuing a dream you easily ignore the negative aspects of it.
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On July 12 2011 15:48 Fishriot wrote:
Personally, I can not fault Sheth in any way for not deciding to return to Korea.
Regardless of his position on the team, he has every single right to make a decision like this in an attempt to preserve his own mental health. Look past the whining and complaining "fans" and their narrow view of the situation, and realize that if Sheth wasn't happy in Korea, there are many negative effects that he could suffer from. The last thing I want is one of my favorite players struggling doing what he loves because of a loss of passion or god forbid a serious case of depression brought on by not being comfortable in his environment.
Starcraft is a game. It may be Sheth's main source of income, but when you boil down the situation to what really matters, nothing is more important than his happiness.
On a side note, I'm finding all of the American bashing in this thread to be pathetic. A desperate attempt to make a low blow in an area that has no relevance to this discussion at all.
Lol. get used to the American bashing. Welcome to TL
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On July 12 2011 16:38 schaf wrote:all this reminds me of this "FXO is no rocking GTSL, they are ruining foreign e-sports!" story. Just because he doesn't fulfill people's expectations they feel like he let them down. HE DOESN'T OWE YOU ANYTHING! Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 15:14 Executor1 wrote:
Yea i agree, to me it just seems wierd and rather childish because i go travelling for months at a time and have a blast, he couldnt even last 2 weeks in a foreign country? I guess i expect more out of progamers, i dont expect him to go very far if he cant even be away from home for more than a week or two though. maybe the answer ist: he is not you! Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 15:35 ilmman wrote:On July 12 2011 15:31 bovi wrote:
I suspect other reasons for him leaving. could be promises not fulfilled etc. disagreement with management style / capabilities. inability to make friends etc.
yer im suspecting he is getting bullied. I dont see why he would throw away an experience like that so easily. I mean just look at him, even i would take measures to bully him just because of the way he looks. ?? Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 15:44 Serpico wrote:On July 12 2011 06:59 fourColo wrote:On July 12 2011 06:52 Shockk wrote:
I like how every second post is by someone who judges Sheth's decision without knowing anything about the background, the reasons, his contract details or other important information.
He went to Korea, he competed, he leaves. His team and manager appear to be ok with it, so his contract probably covers such a case. That he's leaving his team without a captain in the GSL is unfortunate, certainly. But it's not a catastrophe and, let's face it, FXO will need more than moral support and foreigner sympathy to win, they'll get rolled anyway (at least this season).
I'd like to know how many of you loud-mouthed protesters would want to go home again - badly! - after having been in Korea for a while, pursuing your "dream" (or how many other progamers that aren't in Korea but would like to). There are several sayings about the downside of dreams coming true; maybe this has happened to Sheth.
Anyway, his team accepts it, and so should you. And stop judging Sheth unless you know facts. The people criticizing his decision probably have no problem moving around like most adults his age... I've spent a month in Korea on vacation which is more than Sheth and I lived in youth hostels so it's not like I had a lot of privacy. It was a HUGE highlight of my life. So much good food, tons of friends I'm still in contact with today, amusement parks, free BW to watch, noraebang, TONS of clubs, amazing public transit, palaces, beautiful islands, parks, tours, it was great. I know going to Seoul for SC2 wouldn't be about having fun but being exposed to a different culture is worth it by itself. And you aren't sheth so your experience is meaningless. People aren't generic, monolithic beings that all think and act the same. +1 Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 16:16 okay320 wrote:On July 12 2011 16:04 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Sheth only traveled to his first LAN a few months ago, now he went to Korea. It wasn't working out for him too well and, due to some logistics issues that changed a few things, he decided to head back home. What are theses issues? did he poop the bed, or what? read his statement page 16 idiot.
ouch, calm down with the name calling. Idiot is a little out of line.
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On July 12 2011 15:38 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 07:19 Shockk wrote:On July 12 2011 07:16 Mohdoo wrote:
I think people need to consider the fact that Sheth is probably just really weird in terms of how easily he gets homesick. He obviously dedicates a huge portion of his life to SC2, but he can't control how emotional he naturally is.
I don't really see this any differently than an anxiety disorder. He gets mega, mega, mega homesick. If he didn't, he'd stay. I feel bad for the guy, but I don't look down on him. Its really unfortunate that he is socially vulnerable in this way.
I'm sure that if he was able to control his feelings of loneliness and likely depression he experiences from being away from home, he would.
I mean, if he could barely even make it this far, you gotta feel sorry for the guy. It is extremely embarrassing for him to have to tell everyone "Sorry, I got too homesick" to thousands of fans who supported him. I'm sure he'd avoid it in any way possible if he could. You're making it look like a serious mental issue when in reality it's a development that would arise for a large part of people (if not the majority) placed in such a situation. Please don't dramatize that much. You're not thinking about this logically. SC2 is Sheth's job. He is dedicating a portion of his life to it that he could otherwise be doing a variety of other things. No one is going to decide to just needlessly throw away a few years of their life doing something half assed. Do you know anyone who would choose to just waste away years of their life? Sheth knows that there is amazing training opportunity in Korea. He knows how beneficial it could be to what he has chosen to spend his time doing. If he had it in him to stay in Korea, it would be absolutely fucking stupid not to. Sheth doesn't seem like a stupid guy. You gotta realize that there really are people out there who get homesick like this or have other socially dysfunctional problems. I just can't imagine Sheth is like "Well, sure, I could be really good and accomplish a lot. But on the other hand, its cool to see my mom sometimes and chilling with my homies is fun too. I think I will blow this gigantic opportunity so that I can have dinner with my mom". I just can't see that. There is more to it than that. It might not be the way you are, but Sheth is very likely someone who struggles way, way, way more with homesickness than most people. My girlfriend, for example, is someone who I simply could not see doing something like this. Moving away from her family was really tough on her, and it was only by living with me that it was remotely possible. And this was moving 1.5 hours away to go to college. Her moving to Korea, away from me and her family would be downright impossible, no matter the motivation or purpose. She simply could *not* ever do it. Because of that, it seems totally possible that Sheth could be the same way. Why couldn't he be? If he's anything like my girlfriend, it has nothing to do with respecting FXO or being dedicated or anything like that. Some people just *can't*.
Trolling of this level is ruining e-sports.
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On July 12 2011 17:00 starcraft2rush wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 16:38 schaf wrote:all this reminds me of this "FXO is no rocking GTSL, they are ruining foreign e-sports!" story. Just because he doesn't fulfill people's expectations they feel like he let them down. HE DOESN'T OWE YOU ANYTHING! On July 12 2011 15:14 Executor1 wrote:
Yea i agree, to me it just seems wierd and rather childish because i go travelling for months at a time and have a blast, he couldnt even last 2 weeks in a foreign country? I guess i expect more out of progamers, i dont expect him to go very far if he cant even be away from home for more than a week or two though. maybe the answer ist: he is not you! On July 12 2011 15:35 ilmman wrote:On July 12 2011 15:31 bovi wrote:
I suspect other reasons for him leaving. could be promises not fulfilled etc. disagreement with management style / capabilities. inability to make friends etc.
yer im suspecting he is getting bullied. I dont see why he would throw away an experience like that so easily. I mean just look at him, even i would take measures to bully him just because of the way he looks. ?? On July 12 2011 15:44 Serpico wrote:On July 12 2011 06:59 fourColo wrote:On July 12 2011 06:52 Shockk wrote:
I like how every second post is by someone who judges Sheth's decision without knowing anything about the background, the reasons, his contract details or other important information.
He went to Korea, he competed, he leaves. His team and manager appear to be ok with it, so his contract probably covers such a case. That he's leaving his team without a captain in the GSL is unfortunate, certainly. But it's not a catastrophe and, let's face it, FXO will need more than moral support and foreigner sympathy to win, they'll get rolled anyway (at least this season).
I'd like to know how many of you loud-mouthed protesters would want to go home again - badly! - after having been in Korea for a while, pursuing your "dream" (or how many other progamers that aren't in Korea but would like to). There are several sayings about the downside of dreams coming true; maybe this has happened to Sheth.
Anyway, his team accepts it, and so should you. And stop judging Sheth unless you know facts. The people criticizing his decision probably have no problem moving around like most adults his age... I've spent a month in Korea on vacation which is more than Sheth and I lived in youth hostels so it's not like I had a lot of privacy. It was a HUGE highlight of my life. So much good food, tons of friends I'm still in contact with today, amusement parks, free BW to watch, noraebang, TONS of clubs, amazing public transit, palaces, beautiful islands, parks, tours, it was great. I know going to Seoul for SC2 wouldn't be about having fun but being exposed to a different culture is worth it by itself. And you aren't sheth so your experience is meaningless. People aren't generic, monolithic beings that all think and act the same. +1 On July 12 2011 16:16 okay320 wrote:On July 12 2011 16:04 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Sheth only traveled to his first LAN a few months ago, now he went to Korea. It wasn't working out for him too well and, due to some logistics issues that changed a few things, he decided to head back home. What are theses issues? did he poop the bed, or what? read his statement page 16 idiot. ouch, calm down with the name calling. Idiot is a little out of line.
So is accusing a grown man of pooping the bed. T_T
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I'm surprised he only gave it two weeks. It could have been a serious problem or it just may have been that he was scared living in a new unknown place and had a knee jerk reaction to go home. Who knows. I hope he does well in the future though.
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First, we were ashamed of his weight (we can't make fun of July and MC as chubby, as they look anorexic next to him).
Now we're ashamed of his quitter attitude (his reasons were stupid - no CD drives on GOMTV computers, can't live with 10 other people in room which he knew before coming).
It's really a blow to our confidence as foreigners 
User was temp banned for this post.
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I wonder if Sheth will live and train in the FXO teamhouse in Malaysia?
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Not to bring hate, but I said he wasn't fit to play in Code A, guess I was right...
Please keep stream though, love it <3
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On July 12 2011 17:01 starcraft2rush wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 15:38 Mohdoo wrote:On July 12 2011 07:19 Shockk wrote:On July 12 2011 07:16 Mohdoo wrote:
I think people need to consider the fact that Sheth is probably just really weird in terms of how easily he gets homesick. He obviously dedicates a huge portion of his life to SC2, but he can't control how emotional he naturally is.
I don't really see this any differently than an anxiety disorder. He gets mega, mega, mega homesick. If he didn't, he'd stay. I feel bad for the guy, but I don't look down on him. Its really unfortunate that he is socially vulnerable in this way.
I'm sure that if he was able to control his feelings of loneliness and likely depression he experiences from being away from home, he would.
I mean, if he could barely even make it this far, you gotta feel sorry for the guy. It is extremely embarrassing for him to have to tell everyone "Sorry, I got too homesick" to thousands of fans who supported him. I'm sure he'd avoid it in any way possible if he could. You're making it look like a serious mental issue when in reality it's a development that would arise for a large part of people (if not the majority) placed in such a situation. Please don't dramatize that much. You're not thinking about this logically. SC2 is Sheth's job. He is dedicating a portion of his life to it that he could otherwise be doing a variety of other things. No one is going to decide to just needlessly throw away a few years of their life doing something half assed. Do you know anyone who would choose to just waste away years of their life? Sheth knows that there is amazing training opportunity in Korea. He knows how beneficial it could be to what he has chosen to spend his time doing. If he had it in him to stay in Korea, it would be absolutely fucking stupid not to. Sheth doesn't seem like a stupid guy. You gotta realize that there really are people out there who get homesick like this or have other socially dysfunctional problems. I just can't imagine Sheth is like "Well, sure, I could be really good and accomplish a lot. But on the other hand, its cool to see my mom sometimes and chilling with my homies is fun too. I think I will blow this gigantic opportunity so that I can have dinner with my mom". I just can't see that. There is more to it than that. It might not be the way you are, but Sheth is very likely someone who struggles way, way, way more with homesickness than most people. My girlfriend, for example, is someone who I simply could not see doing something like this. Moving away from her family was really tough on her, and it was only by living with me that it was remotely possible. And this was moving 1.5 hours away to go to college. Her moving to Korea, away from me and her family would be downright impossible, no matter the motivation or purpose. She simply could *not* ever do it. Because of that, it seems totally possible that Sheth could be the same way. Why couldn't he be? If he's anything like my girlfriend, it has nothing to do with respecting FXO or being dedicated or anything like that. Some people just *can't*. Trolling of this level is ruining e-sports.
Seems like he was just giving his honest answer. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean he is trolling.
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On July 12 2011 15:48 Fishriot wrote:
Personally, I can not fault Sheth in any way for not deciding to return to Korea.
Regardless of his position on the team, he has every single right to make a decision like this in an attempt to preserve his own mental health. Look past the whining and complaining "fans" and their narrow view of the situation, and realize that if Sheth wasn't happy in Korea, there are many negative effects that he could suffer from. The last thing I want is one of my favorite players struggling doing what he loves because of a loss of passion or god forbid a serious case of depression brought on by not being comfortable in his environment.
Starcraft is a game. It may be Sheth's main source of income, but when you boil down the situation to what really matters, nothing is more important than his happiness.
On a side note, I'm finding all of the American bashing in this thread to be pathetic. A desperate attempt to make a low blow in an area that has no relevance to this discussion at all.
well lets be thankful that e-sports is not a real sport
if a person of the sheth equivalent in a ( real sport ) like basketball, football, boxing ect
if that (sportsmen) decided in the middle of a tourney or match w/e this isn't me I'm done he could face server consequences to his career or even possible legal action
I'm not saying hes not in the position of someone like Kobe for say and that does apply to him. I'm just saying he should treat it like it regardless, can you imagine if someone like MJ had said hey I'm home sick and I'm done with the rest of the season how bad that would be for his career on so many different levels its stupid. If FXO was a seen by everyone as a sure win in GSTL and Sheth did this and they lost I cant imagine how people would react and what that would do to his career people will love him regardless but still
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On July 12 2011 17:38 TooN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 17:01 starcraft2rush wrote:On July 12 2011 15:38 Mohdoo wrote:On July 12 2011 07:19 Shockk wrote:On July 12 2011 07:16 Mohdoo wrote:
I think people need to consider the fact that Sheth is probably just really weird in terms of how easily he gets homesick. He obviously dedicates a huge portion of his life to SC2, but he can't control how emotional he naturally is.
I don't really see this any differently than an anxiety disorder. He gets mega, mega, mega homesick. If he didn't, he'd stay. I feel bad for the guy, but I don't look down on him. Its really unfortunate that he is socially vulnerable in this way.
I'm sure that if he was able to control his feelings of loneliness and likely depression he experiences from being away from home, he would.
I mean, if he could barely even make it this far, you gotta feel sorry for the guy. It is extremely embarrassing for him to have to tell everyone "Sorry, I got too homesick" to thousands of fans who supported him. I'm sure he'd avoid it in any way possible if he could. You're making it look like a serious mental issue when in reality it's a development that would arise for a large part of people (if not the majority) placed in such a situation. Please don't dramatize that much. You're not thinking about this logically. SC2 is Sheth's job. He is dedicating a portion of his life to it that he could otherwise be doing a variety of other things. No one is going to decide to just needlessly throw away a few years of their life doing something half assed. Do you know anyone who would choose to just waste away years of their life? Sheth knows that there is amazing training opportunity in Korea. He knows how beneficial it could be to what he has chosen to spend his time doing. If he had it in him to stay in Korea, it would be absolutely fucking stupid not to. Sheth doesn't seem like a stupid guy. You gotta realize that there really are people out there who get homesick like this or have other socially dysfunctional problems. I just can't imagine Sheth is like "Well, sure, I could be really good and accomplish a lot. But on the other hand, its cool to see my mom sometimes and chilling with my homies is fun too. I think I will blow this gigantic opportunity so that I can have dinner with my mom". I just can't see that. There is more to it than that. It might not be the way you are, but Sheth is very likely someone who struggles way, way, way more with homesickness than most people. My girlfriend, for example, is someone who I simply could not see doing something like this. Moving away from her family was really tough on her, and it was only by living with me that it was remotely possible. And this was moving 1.5 hours away to go to college. Her moving to Korea, away from me and her family would be downright impossible, no matter the motivation or purpose. She simply could *not* ever do it. Because of that, it seems totally possible that Sheth could be the same way. Why couldn't he be? If he's anything like my girlfriend, it has nothing to do with respecting FXO or being dedicated or anything like that. Some people just *can't*. Trolling of this level is ruining e-sports. Seems like he was just giving his honest answer. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean he is trolling.
On teamliquid it does. If you dont agree with me you are hurting ESPORTS and trolling
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On July 11 2011 16:09 Sheth wrote:
Hey there TL. I wanted to be the first one to explain this, but I guess Josh beat me to it.
Last time for Code A I didn't explain everything to the community and problems occurred, so this time I will! (Mostly =D )
I have thoroughly enjoyed my time in KR in the GOM foreigner house playing in both Code A and GSTL. I have had a great time with GSL and all of the wonderful people in Kor. Besides my team I've had the experience to be able to hang out with Tastlesss, Artosis and Torch. There are others of course, but hanging out with those three was a great time.
However there were things I was unaware of going into Korea. Several things that have kept me from staying for another Code A at this time and from even going back after NASL. First off I was hoping to have been able to learn Korean better, I bought Rosetta stone even, however in the GOM house there are no CD drives. Thus I couldn't do that and thus I was unable to go do things I had planned on. (I could have read a book on it, or went out of my way in my free time to do this, I just bring this up as something that was disapointing.)
Secondly I was expecting to stay here for a month (through all of GSTL) and then go home. However it turned out that there were no flights available from the team for me go go back after GSTL. I don't know how this happened (something to do with buying flights in bulk), but either way I wouldn't have been able to go home after GSTL to see my family for a week before MLG. This was something I had greatly looked forward to while in Korea. Having to stay away for another 2 weeks or so might not seem a big deal, and it wouldn't be for a lot of people however it was for me. I miss my family and friends quite a lot.
Thirdly just quite brutally honestly I'm not fit for staying with 10 other guys in a small area constantly for a month mixed in with random 12 hours flights back to America for things such as NASL and then MLG. Its just not something I enjoy at all and I would have put up with it were I able to at least visit home to recharge after GSTL.
I realize if anyone is to blame here its me, for not being able to stay in the team house like I had said I would for a whole month. I'm very very sad to have left my team in Korea to finish GSTL without me. This is a dick move. I get it. However try and put yourself in my shoes, that's the only defense I can offer. I will miss my team and the training quite a bit. I can go into plenty of excuses, but the main point is I'm leaving the GOM foreigner house to go home where I can have some privacy, stream more and be all around more relaxed. Those who saw me at NASL can tell I was stressed and tired, hopefully being at home for a while will fix that.
I will miss you in Korea team and if in the future I can find a way to live on my own in Korea and go to "work" at the GOM house for the day I'm sure I will try my best to do this. However for now I'm heading home to prepare for MLG in my own way. Hopefully you at TL the reader can respect this and if not I understand. I still have much love for FXO and ofc TL. <3 Sheth
I respect your decision Sheth. I have been asia as well, and it was a culture shock for me! But the biggest difference was that I did not have to share rooms wtih 10 other guys!
The only problem i have is that your the team captain and although you admit that leaving the team is a dick move, I feel as if the captain should never bail out. In my opinion a captain of team is a vital role, and it is a privelege that the rest of your teammates votes you as their captain.
On another note, everyone has personal issues. It is not fair to judge others just becuase his/her problems are different from your own.
I hope you had fun in Korea, and good luck on MLG!!! I know we will see u in Korea in the future Sheth!
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On July 12 2011 17:52 UniversalMind wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 15:48 Fishriot wrote:
Personally, I can not fault Sheth in any way for not deciding to return to Korea.
Regardless of his position on the team, he has every single right to make a decision like this in an attempt to preserve his own mental health. Look past the whining and complaining "fans" and their narrow view of the situation, and realize that if Sheth wasn't happy in Korea, there are many negative effects that he could suffer from. The last thing I want is one of my favorite players struggling doing what he loves because of a loss of passion or god forbid a serious case of depression brought on by not being comfortable in his environment.
Starcraft is a game. It may be Sheth's main source of income, but when you boil down the situation to what really matters, nothing is more important than his happiness.
On a side note, I'm finding all of the American bashing in this thread to be pathetic. A desperate attempt to make a low blow in an area that has no relevance to this discussion at all. well lets be thankful that e-sports is not a real sport if a person of the sheth equivalent in a ( real sport ) like basketball, football, boxing ect if that (sportsmen) decided in the middle of a tourney or match w/e this isn't me I'm done he could face server consequences to his career or even possible legal action I'm not saying hes not in the position of someone like Kobe for say and that does apply to him. I'm just saying he should treat it like it regardless, can you imagine if someone like MJ had said hey I'm home sick and I'm done with the rest of the season how bad that would be for his career on so many different levels its stupid. If FXO was a seen by everyone as a sure win in GSTL and Sheth did this and they lost I cant imagine how people would react and what that would do to his career people will love him regardless but still
I think this is fairly sad, but true. You look at examples such as Terran's history of team-hopping, painuser's monster flake-out in NASL, Naniwa's insulting of NASL, Destiny's signing a contract "under duress" fiasco with coL, and this situation, and it's fairly clear to see that eSports simply isn't a sport at all. This is basically kids doing whatever they want with little-to-no-real-life-repercussions. Can we just be honest and go back to calling it "gaming"? It's as if I applied for a job that required travelling, told my employer that I'd travel/do whatever it takes to succeed, and then reneged on that promise, and still expect to keep my job.. There's a severe disconnect with the real working world that I think most pro gamers suffer from, and it's going to absolutely wreck them once/if their gaming "careers" end. I guess still living with your parents and/or in a house where living expenses are provided for you really doesn't teach you what it means to be a responsible person (i.e. showing up for work, actually having to provide for yourself).
On the other side of the coin (the personal side, rather than the general overview of the industry), it's important for us all to do what keeps us happy and sane. The people that truly enjoy their jobs are in the vast minority, and that sometimes means that your happiness has to be found in your free/social time, because working isn't usually fun..but bills have to be paid when you're an independent person.. I sincerely hope Sheth's choices work out well for him, and that he never regrets passing up on what would be a dreamlike opportunity for many of us. Ideally, this frees up a spot in the FXO team house for someone who would be able to enjoy the experience.
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Disappointing. Especially sincw hes fxo best player. Commitment was only one month right? It wasnt like a stay forevwr in korea right?
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Sad to see the manner zerg wont be playing in the GSTL anymore, but its great that FXO is the type of team that supports what their players decide to do. My already high opinion of them is going up every day.
Sheth Fighting!
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On July 12 2011 17:01 starcraft2rush wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 15:38 Mohdoo wrote:On July 12 2011 07:19 Shockk wrote:On July 12 2011 07:16 Mohdoo wrote:
I think people need to consider the fact that Sheth is probably just really weird in terms of how easily he gets homesick. He obviously dedicates a huge portion of his life to SC2, but he can't control how emotional he naturally is.
I don't really see this any differently than an anxiety disorder. He gets mega, mega, mega homesick. If he didn't, he'd stay. I feel bad for the guy, but I don't look down on him. Its really unfortunate that he is socially vulnerable in this way.
I'm sure that if he was able to control his feelings of loneliness and likely depression he experiences from being away from home, he would.
I mean, if he could barely even make it this far, you gotta feel sorry for the guy. It is extremely embarrassing for him to have to tell everyone "Sorry, I got too homesick" to thousands of fans who supported him. I'm sure he'd avoid it in any way possible if he could. You're making it look like a serious mental issue when in reality it's a development that would arise for a large part of people (if not the majority) placed in such a situation. Please don't dramatize that much. You're not thinking about this logically. SC2 is Sheth's job. He is dedicating a portion of his life to it that he could otherwise be doing a variety of other things. No one is going to decide to just needlessly throw away a few years of their life doing something half assed. Do you know anyone who would choose to just waste away years of their life? Sheth knows that there is amazing training opportunity in Korea. He knows how beneficial it could be to what he has chosen to spend his time doing. If he had it in him to stay in Korea, it would be absolutely fucking stupid not to. Sheth doesn't seem like a stupid guy. You gotta realize that there really are people out there who get homesick like this or have other socially dysfunctional problems. I just can't imagine Sheth is like "Well, sure, I could be really good and accomplish a lot. But on the other hand, its cool to see my mom sometimes and chilling with my homies is fun too. I think I will blow this gigantic opportunity so that I can have dinner with my mom". I just can't see that. There is more to it than that. It might not be the way you are, but Sheth is very likely someone who struggles way, way, way more with homesickness than most people. My girlfriend, for example, is someone who I simply could not see doing something like this. Moving away from her family was really tough on her, and it was only by living with me that it was remotely possible. And this was moving 1.5 hours away to go to college. Her moving to Korea, away from me and her family would be downright impossible, no matter the motivation or purpose. She simply could *not* ever do it. Because of that, it seems totally possible that Sheth could be the same way. Why couldn't he be? If he's anything like my girlfriend, it has nothing to do with respecting FXO or being dedicated or anything like that. Some people just *can't*. Trolling of this level is ruining e-sports.
......How is he a troll? He was just stating his thoughts on the subject
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I don't understand all of the hate in this thread. Sheth is a great player, and an incredibly nice guy. I think the situation is totally understandable. Being stuck in a house with several people all of the time would get extremely claustrophobic, and since he doesn't speak the language, going out would be isolating.
Continuing to play in an environment where he is stressed, tired and distracted would probably hurt his play, and possibly the morale of the team in general. I think Sheth made a brave decision to leave. He clearly feels guilty about his decision, but it's probably for the best.
I'm sure he thought a lot about whether or not to go, but until you're there, you have no idea what it will be like.
Good luck, Sheth! I'm still a huge fan!
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