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Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
July 11 2011 00:14 GMT
#21
On July 11 2011 09:12 [N3O]r3d33m3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 09:10 DarkEnergy wrote:
As far as i know you do not get the minerals and gas back for the upgrade if the building is destroyed wile upgrading. So that being true it is only logical otherwise its lost.


ye it doesn't get refunded man, same with units, you also don't get refunded the price once the building got destroyed.

False twice, you get both back. Only thing you don't get refunded is a building that is under construction.
R0YAL
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 00:15:17
July 11 2011 00:14 GMT
#22
It's a 10 year habit ingrained into their brain from bw to naturally cancel an upgrade before the building is destroyed.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
July 11 2011 00:15 GMT
#23
On July 11 2011 09:13 Ghostpvp wrote:
Pretty sure broodwar refunded 75% if you lost the building.



Yeah this goes for upgrades and unit producing structures
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Wiwiweb
Profile Joined August 2010
France56 Posts
July 11 2011 00:16 GMT
#24
Units gets refunded. Upgrades gets refunded. Destroying a pylon refunds the warping in units. Even morphing zerg units gets the morphing cost refunded if the cocoon is destroyed.

The ONLY thing that doesn't get refunded after being destroyed is buildings.
nemo14
Profile Joined January 2011
United States425 Posts
July 11 2011 00:18 GMT
#25
I think that a lot of pros do not realize that your money gets refunded if you lose the building while the upgrade is in progress just because that was most certainly not the case in Brood War.
EtohEtoh
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada669 Posts
July 11 2011 00:19 GMT
#26
holy shit i didn't know that lol, never that about it, thought it would be the same as brood war, maybe they don't know cause they spent years playing bw... but htey should know since they spend everyday playing sc2
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
July 11 2011 00:20 GMT
#27
In Broodwar you got a full refund as well, so no its not from broodwar (I just checked it right now)
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XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
July 11 2011 00:22 GMT
#28
On July 11 2011 09:09 7mk wrote:
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On July 11 2011 09:06 Kami47 wrote:

The thing is: If a upgrade developing building is destroyed the resources get refunded. That means there is absolutely no reason to cancel it, especially if it is close to be finished.


what, really? i had no idea, wow thats noob-friendly

WC3 and BW both had this mechanic if I remember correctly. It's not noob-friendly... It doesn't make any sense to why "cancelling" an upgrade wouldn't be the same as letting it get cancelled by having the building blow up.
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
July 11 2011 00:25 GMT
#29
Get the refunds earlier, if it's 1000% sure to be killed. Every second counts.
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ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 11 2011 00:25 GMT
#30
Guys, in Broodwar its STILL A FULL REFUND.
secret - never again
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
July 11 2011 00:27 GMT
#31
It's amazing how many people did not play BW. Everything in queue in BW refunds.
Someone call down the Thunder?
ShadowWolf
Profile Joined March 2010
United States197 Posts
July 11 2011 00:38 GMT
#32
On July 11 2011 09:25 ch33psh33p wrote:
Guys, in Broodwar its STILL A FULL REFUND.


I just tested this with Siege Tech; before I was at 438 minerals, after destroying the addon without cancelling the upgrade I was at 400. I stopped all mining of minerals and gas during the test. Based on this test it's pretty clear that you lose 25% of the cost of the upgrade.

I tested it another time and it took 25% of the cost for metabolic boost.
bounca
Profile Joined June 2011
140 Posts
July 11 2011 00:39 GMT
#33
its just a instinct of being good, no other way to put it
Crisco
Profile Joined March 2011
1170 Posts
July 11 2011 00:39 GMT
#34
if you don't manually cancel, you run the risk of forgetting that it never finished
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 11 2011 00:43 GMT
#35
On July 11 2011 09:39 Crisco wrote:
if you don't manually cancel, you run the risk of forgetting that it never finished


You can click units to tell if upgrade finished or not.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
July 11 2011 00:45 GMT
#36
On July 11 2011 09:09 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 09:06 Kami47 wrote:

The thing is: If a upgrade developing building is destroyed the resources get refunded. That means there is absolutely no reason to cancel it, especially if it is close to be finished.


what, really? i had no idea, wow thats noob-friendly


It was the same in BW.....
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 11 2011 00:46 GMT
#37
Didnt even know it didnt get refunded in BW, i always canceled my upgrades out of habit ><
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VeryAverage
Profile Joined January 2011
United States424 Posts
July 11 2011 00:47 GMT
#38
BW habit and for quicker refund.

Nothing funnier than seeing a starport get blown up with a BC making and them forgetting to cancel.
CurLy[]
Profile Joined August 2010
United States759 Posts
July 11 2011 00:48 GMT
#39
Okay.. didn't know that.

But units qued up you still lose money right?

Right ??
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windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
July 11 2011 00:48 GMT
#40
On July 11 2011 09:48 CurLy[] wrote:
Okay.. didn't know that.

But units qued up you still lose money right?

Right ??


No and it was still the same in BW and W3.

"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
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