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The Kratos and the Emperor - MC Meets BoxeR in the NASL Finals Article by: Derek Staley, Banner by: Marc Read the article here
It is a storyline as old and cliché as they come. The grizzled vet against the brash up and comer; a legend attempting to take back his throne from the present-day champion; knowledge and experience on one side, cocksure skill and youth on the other. Fantasy will become reality in the first round of the NASL finals, as MC with face off with BoxeR in round 1. Fans will be treated to a player attempting to secure his immortal status in the world of Starcraft against one who has more than secured his own. Though BoxeR claimed the #2 seed with a stellar regular season, MC will surely be the favorite after advancing through the playoffs to take the #15 seed.
The Protoss President
Considered one of the pre-season favorites, MC struggled out of the gate. After suffering a walkover loss to BRAT_OK, subsequent losses to Ret and ACE left him in a very difficult position at 0-3. However, MC won his remaining matches to finish at 6-3 and earn a spot in the playoffs. The playoff bracket played directly into his hands, being matched up against two Protoss players in CrunCher and KiWiKaKi. Both players were easily dispatched, earning the GSL Champion a trip to the finals to play BoxeR.
Widely regarded as one of the best players in the world, MC’s accolades speak for themselves. 2 GSL championships, Dreamhack and Copenhagen Games titles, and several other top 3 finishes in the international scene have turned him into a superstar and potentially a legend in the making. MC promises to be even more confident than usual against BoxeR, facing off with a player who has not shown nearly the results in Starcraft II as he did in its predecessor. If one were to only look at Starcraft II statistics and ignore the name, Min Chul’s Terran opponent would likely not be considered a major threat.
The Bonjwa
But this isn’t a no-name Terran player. This is the first bonjwa. This is BoxeR. The same BoxeR who turned a game into a passion, a hobby into a career, and secured Starcraft’s place as a sport in Korea. The man who created SKT1 and mentored another bonjwa in iloveoov. The BoxeR who started SlayerS, winning back to back GSTL championships with a group of relative unknowns. And the player who changed the game by doing things like this and this (1:35). True, the Emperor has struggled as of late. After falling from Code S in March, he lost his first round matchup in Code A July to drop out of the GSL entirely. Still, if there is one player who can overcome the odds and find a way to win, it’s BoxeR
Claiming the #2 seed with a sole lost to Zenio and wins over players such as IdrA and Sen, BoxeR looked very impressive during the regular season. He showed an ability to win by utilizing a variety of different styles. While he would often opt to play standard macro games, his repertoire also includes very aggressive builds such as those showcased against IdrA. BoxeR will need to use everything in his extensive book of tricks if he hopes to be victorious against MC.
The Matchup
Both players have a tendency to be very aggressive in the early game, sometimes relying on borderline all-in tactics. MC and BoxeR’s builds are meticulously refined to the minutest of details, from perfect scouting paths and proxy locations to hitting the narrowest of timing windows. MC may decide to back off the aggression and play a macro oriented style due to BoxeR’s relatively weaker late game. BoxeR on the other hand may come up with specific builds based on MC’s play to attempt to exploit any early weaknesses and rely on the element of surprise. The Protoss player holds a 67% win rate against Terran in Korean events at 29-14, while his opponent comes in at 50% in TvP with a 5-5 mark.
The Event
The MC vs. BoxeR matchup is sure to be one of the most anticipated of the first round, if not the entire final bracket. American fans are sure to swarm BoxeR with picture and autograph requests as he attempts to rekindle the flame that made him a bonjwa, while MC tries to one day claim that title as well. When youth meets experience, the results are not always predictable and the games are not always close. But no matter what happens, the event itself will surely be a memorable one.
The Nicest Zerg v. The Korean Pokémon - Sheth meets Squirtle in the NASL. Article by: Edward Chow, Banner by Fernando Read the article here
We’ve made it, it’s finally here, after nine grueling weeks of divisional play and the open tournament, and it has come down to the top 16. Today we are previewing two players who are not as well known, Sheth who is on the upswing, and Squirtle, a Korean who is quite solid, but not the most well-known
The Nicest Zerg
In 2010, one of the running jokes in the StarCraft 2 pro-community was that Sheth never showed up to a LAN event in which he said he would. Even into 2011, before the MLG season started up, community figures such as JP and iNcontroL would jokingly make bets as to whether Sheth would show up to an MLG event.
Make no mistake, Sheth is here, and he is here to stay. In April, Sheth put himself on the map, and showed that he was a force to be reckoned with after achieving Rank 1 status in the world on the ladder. He also put up a very respectable 17th and 14th place at MLG Dallas and Columbus respectively.
Lately, Sheth has made the trip to Korea after being granted a Code A spot, competing alongside his fellow teammates of FXO in both the GSTL, and the GSL. Sheth managed to win over ST_Tiger, but more importantly, he was able to defeat a very skilled HoSeoSan 2-0 in his first Code A match.
In the NASL, Sheth has been one of the most dominant players, losing only to KiWiKaKi and Fenix, two players who are also quite good in their own right. Sheth is often credited with inventing the Speedling-Expand build and employs a heavy Macro-style Zerg. So much so that is nickname is the Macro Zerg and that he has said on occasion that he feels bad when he cheeses.
Sheth’s record in the NASL is quite impressive defeating players such as GSL Runner Up: Rainbow, the great and very creatively solid player TLO, and MorroW, a former Terran turned Zerg player who is quite a fantastic player in his own right. It is going to be interesting to see what comes of these two players’ games.
The Korean Pokémon
Squirtle is perhaps most well-known for the jokes that Tastosis make with regards to his name as Pokémon. His accomplishments in the GSL arena have not been ones of high regard. However, he is the first player to all-kill an opposing team in a GSTL. In foreign tournaments, Squirtle earned a respectable 3rd place in the Intel Extreme Masters Finals behind Moon and his teammate Ace.
As a player, Squirtle is capable of executing a variety of strategies from cheesy proxy builds, to Void Ray openings, standard three-Gateway into expansions, all of which were successfully executed against players including Naniwa, NaDa.
The Match
Most people call a match based on one factor: is there a Korean. If so, the Korean will win no ifs ands or buts. And for years this has been the dominating principle, especially in Brood War, and to this day it still holds water; Koreans have taken top 3 at MLG Columbus, taken top 3 at IEM Season V World Championship, and taking first as well as top 3 in TL Opens. However, if the recent TeamLiquid StarLeague and the GomTV Korean v. The World are any indicators, foreigners are beginning to show that they can compete with the previously unrivaled Koreans.
Sheth v. Squirtle is one of the tougher matches to call, with Sheth not taking any top-3 finishes at a LAN event, and Squirtle taking 3rd at the IEM Season V Championships before dropping out of the GSL. That being said, Sheth has shown that he has the skill to topple very strong Korean players as demonstrated by his recent Code A 2-1 win over San, a player who has defeated NesTea, Boxer, White-Ra and Dimaga, players of elite caliber status. His travels to Korea, will no doubt give him a nice boost to his game play, and level of skill, that will serve him sell in the grand finals of the inaugural season of the North American StarLeague.
In May, Squirtle was eliminated from Code A. In his last twenty games, Squirtle has gone 10-10, going 3-7 in Korea, and 7-3 in the NASL. While Squirtle performed admirably in the NASL, it remains to be seen how he will do in a LAN setting such as that of the NASL grand finals.
After nine weeks of division play, sixteen of the world's best SC2 players will travel to Ontario, CA, to compete for their share of a $100 000 prize pool. In the first round of the NASL Grand Finals, two experienced players will meet. The first is a young Korean living in America with an extensive RTS background and numerous impressive titles. The second is the oldest professional player with extensive SC experience and numerous impressive titles. As these two gaming legends meet, who will advance the victor?
The RTS Shark
Unlike the many NASL competitors who made the switch from Brood War to SC2, SeleCT is on of the few in the tournament who came to SC2 from other RTS games. This Korean RTS legend won the WCG twice for Dawn of War, and he has become an NA fan favorite since moving to the US and competing on the MLG circuit.
SeleCT was in Division 4 of the NASL and had to face incredible players like Ret, Ace and MC. Both Ace and SeleCT came out of the division play with 7-2 series win records, but SeleCT’s 4 match win advantage secured him a spot in the Grand Finals. Although Ret or SeleCT were favorites to make it out of the division with MC, it came as a surprise when both Ret and SeleCT made it out of Division 4 without MC. Select lost to Ret in Week 5 and to MC in Week 9 but maintained a consistent win rate throughout the division. With his experienced RTS mind paired with his aggressive, abusive and drop-heavy play style SeleCT has mastered the strategy and isn’t afraid of aggression and mind games. SeleCT often rushes vs Zerg, avoiding the dreaded TvZ late-game. He takes conventional Terran play and puts unique twists on it.
The Seasoned Vet
This Ukrainian Starcraft legend is one of the highest earning professional players outside of Korea and has an impressive wins under his belt including Homestory Cup II. In his thirties, White-Ra is the oldest professional player, but he has proven that he hasn’t lost his game in an industry full of young pups.
Despite his extensive SC experience and special tactics, White-Ra did not have an easy time in his division, and his guaranteed spot in the NASL Grand Finals was only secured in the last week of play thanks to a walkover from Ensnare. White-Ra’s first NASL week started off on the wrong foot with a forfeit loss from July due to scheduling problems when he made it to the finals of the Dreamhack Invitational. After his first loss, he came back strong to win 5 straight games in a row before losing to iNcontroL weeks 7. In week 8, White-Ra lost another match due to a walkover to MoMaN which could have cost him his chances at making the NASL Grand Finals. White-Ra is a solid player and is not afraid to use creative builds. A prime example of White-Ra’s creativity is his first NASL match vs. TT1, where dictated the game with warp prism play which is uncommon. He is named as the first player to use voidray rushes and uses an unconventional mix of units masterfully to win matches.
The Match Up
There is no significant match history between these players, and neither of these players have rivalries with anyone. These two players actually have much in common: White-Ra and SeleCT are well-manned, entertaining to watch and fan favorites. They are both solid players who add unique twists to conventional play. The games have the potential to be packed with excitement but as we all know, a highly anticipated game can disappoint. With no real underdog in this match-up, it could be anyone’s game but SeleCT seems like the player more likely to advance. The match should boast some creative play from the Protoss corner and aggressive play from the Terran corner. With SeleCT's abusive play, it is likely that after multiple drops and attacks, White-Ra will simply be unable to keep up.
Will White-Ra prove once again that you don’t have to be a fresh faced twenty-something to be at the top of your game? As an RTS legend and a SC legend clash, who will come out on top?
It is not everyday that we are treated to a ZvZ between two Zergs that understand the matchup so well. Zenio being the Korean is probably the 2nd best at the mirror matchup behind The God of ZvZ, Nestea. Sen has probably the best grasp of the mayhem that is ZvZ in the foreigner scene, even better than IdrA. None of us can really guess at what type of unit composition, build order, or any type of structure in play between these two great competitors. What we can expect though is pure, calculated mayhem.
HOW THEY GOT HERE
After beating one of the top Korean Zergs in week one, Sen propelled himself to a 2nd place finish, going 7-2 in the group with decisive wins over IdrA, MaNa, Socke, and Tyler. Sen has been known as one of the better foreign Zergs and consistently shows it in competition. According to the Teamliquid Progamer Database, Sen has an international elo of 2308 but the 2nd highest elo in ZvZ, second only to Nerchio who has a lot more games of ZvZ played. In the NASL, he has a 4-1 record against IdrA and Zenio, the two Zergs he has faced. Lately, Sen has been hot in his last ten games of ZvZ going 7-3 in competitions with losses coming to the God of War, July, at 2011 Dreamhack Summer. There is no doubt in my mind that Sen deserves to be in California for the NASL Finals and I would never be shocked if he made it far unless he has to play Strelok - he seems to have Sen’s number.
Zenio rebounded nicely after losing in week one to Sen only losing one more match and that was against Drewbie. After losing to Drewbie, the GSL Code S Zerg did not drop a single game until the playoff qualifiers where he lost one game to Dde. Zenio rode that winning streak to a top seed in the playoff qualifiers where in the Seed 11 Qualifier Finals he got to meet up with IdrA, his nemesis. If you are a fan of IdrA rage (who isn’t?) the series did not disappoint as Zenio took two quick games off of IdrA due to some sneaky play. At one point, IdrA told Zenio - the guy that has a dominating record against him - to earn the ‘GG’.
Zenio is probably the hottest player coming into the finals...and I’m not talking his hair here. He has won 7 matches in a row to get to this spot, but in order to win an NASL Season 1 Championship he will need to win 4 more against the best of the best in Starcraft 2.
THE HISTORY
When these two high level Zergs met in week one, viewers were treated to an awesome display of multitasking and decision making from one of the players. That player was Sen.
Sen is known for his decision making and multitasking. Lets go back to that week 1 against Zenio in game 2 on Crevasse. Sen snuck in a Spire during the micro-fest that is early game ZvZ. With the Mutalisks he was able to control the map, kill drones, but the most important thing was that he went after every overlord he could find halting the production for the Korean Zerg. That type of decision making is what won him that game because taking out the supply of Zenio allowed Sen to get drones and a large lead in the army count, and he never looked back.
There is no doubt that in the foreigner scene, Sen has the best understanding of ZvZ at the moment. The style of the FnaticMSI Zerg also tends to be the style that gives Zenio trouble. The decision making that he uses and just says, ‘I’m going to do this whether you like it or not’ gives Zenio trouble, especially if he isn’t ready for it. Couple that with the multitasking and you have a winning combination against the Korean Zerg. I believe Sen will take this match and will probably face Strelok. Although Sen’s ZvT is probably his worst matchup, he has a good record against Strelok.
Make sure to tune into the NASL Grand Finals on July 8th to see not only this matchup but the likes of Boxer, MC, Ret, Sheth, White-Ra, and many many more. Don’t miss a minute of the action!
So what do we get when we have two former Warcraft 3 pros going against each other? You get one awesome Zerg versus Protoss between Moon and HasuObs! Moon is the number one prize-money earner in the game and is probably the best Night Elf player in the world. HasuObs was no slouch in WC3 either! He was the top prize-money earner in Germany. I can only see one result from a HasuObs versus Moon match in WC3 and Moon won it. Will HasuObs bring down the WC3 King or will Moon beat him once again?
The Night Elf Zerg
Moon from WeMadeFOX, finished first in his division with a 7-2 record. Along the way through the regular season he knocked off his former MeetYourMakers teammate and The King of Orcs, Grubby. He had wins versus the likes of Artosis, GSL runner up Rainbow, TLO, and KiWiKaKi.
The problem with Moon is that he seems to be a little inconsistent. This may be because of his background in WC3 and he just hasn’t found his style in Starcraft. However, over the past month or two he has been on a roll. Since the beginning of May he has been 9-4 in the NASL but that isn’t the amazing part of his play lately. Moon at 2011 Dreamhack Summer showed an aura of dominance taking out every Protoss he encountered as long their name wasn’t HuK.
If Moon can take the success of Dreamhack and build some momentum coming into the NASL Grand Finals, he could make a serious push for the championship and the money!
The Undead Protoss
Okay, the title for HasuObs is not the most flattering but he was considered a great Undead player in Warcraft. His being in the NASL Grand Finals is a sort of comeback. He finished off the season 5-4 after a good start of 4-1. He made it into the qualifier with Ace, Brat_OK, and Fenix. When Fenix no showed, he was put into the qualifier final against Ace. The series went 3 games but HasuObs prevailed with some great micro and patience.
Hopefully HasuObs will be able to rebound after a couple of disappointing LAN events at Dreamhack Summer and Homestory Cup III. At Dreamhack he did amazing in the group stage getting second to July. The playoffs were a different story though. He took an early exit getting 2-0’d by Bomber in the first round. He did fairly well against Zerg at Dreamhack except for the match against July, but he did devour the crunchy roll that is Sushi and he shut down Machine. At HSC3, he did not get out of the group stage even though he went 2-1. However he is playing a PvZ and that matchup looked pretty good at both of the LAN tournaments.
The Match
The general consensus of the pro Warcraft turned pro Starcraft crowd is that the late game is not their favorite, unless you are Cruncher and want that deathball so badly. However, I expect that both players will be aggressive. Moon will more than likely be the one to go all-in because that Protoss max army is a scary thing.
In the NASL, Moon went 6-1 against Protoss which included matches against Grubby, Artosis, and KiWiKaKi. However, in Korea it has been a different story, he can’t seem to beat a Protoss in the GSL.
Zerg was the 2nd best matchup for HasuObs in the NASL, going 4-3 with the only loss being again Ret. Outside of the NASL, PvZ has been his best matchup and is 6-4 in his last ten games. However, top level Zergs are giving him trouble so here is the question: Is Moon a top level Zerg? Before Dreamhack, I would have said he was below the top level of the JulyZerg, Nestea, Sen, IdrA but now I believe he is inching closer.
Whatever HasuObs and Moon we get at the finals the games are guaranteed to be amazing and close. Both players seem very confident in the matchup and should be an action packed series sense neither player is a passive player. So be sure to turn into the NASL Grand Finals on the July 8th to see the action take place, if you don’t watch you will miss amazing games. No one wants to miss amazing games!
Top Seed Looks to Hold Off Open Winner Ret Will Meet PuMa in Round 1
When the list of participants for the NASL Open Tournament was finalized, very few looked to PuMa when picking a favorite. The list of signups included the entire TSL team, various other Koreans, and top level foreign players such as ThorZaIN, DIMAGA, and Lalush. PuMa was so under the radar that he wasn’t even included in the list of Notable Signups on Liquipedia. But after storming through the Open Bracket, he secured a spot in the finals and will be matched up with top seeded Ret. The Team Liquid player secured the top seed with an 8-1 record in a division that included players such as SeleCT, Ace, and MC.
A Surprising Winner
It isn’t particularly surprising that a current or former member of Team SCV Life claimed the 16th seed by winning the Open Tournament. What is surprising is which member that was. Clide, aLive, Rain, and Revival were participating and have all shown better results than PuMa in Korea. This wasn’t a victory that was secured by luck either. PuMa defeated DIMAGA, NightEnD, and Clide on his way to the final match in which he took down aLive 3:2.
It also seems unlikely that this will be a fluke occurrence for the Korean. There are a number of very strong players in Korea, such as DongRaeGu, who haven’t been able to qualify for Code A. PuMa displayed a similar strength in the GSTL against Prime, defeating BBoongBBoong, MarineKing, and Polt to give TSL the 4-1 victory. Additionally, he has defeated Lucky and sC in previous GSTL tournaments. With his recent success, PuMa may be a player on the brink of becoming a force to be reckoned with.
#1 With a Bullet
Coming off first round losses in TSL3 and both of his attempts in Code A, Ret was not considered a favorite to even take the top spot in his own division. But 3 months and a move back home from Korea later, Ret has shown that he is still a force in Starcraft II by claiming the overall #1 seed. His resurgence was reinforced by a 7th place finish at MLG Columbus, taking matches against ThorZaIN, SeleCT, MajOr, and HayprO.
The top seed was certainly not given to Ret. After dropping his opening matchup with ACE, 8 straight wins took him to an 8-1 record. In fact, only 2 total maps were dropped against a group of players that included MC, Stalife, and SeleCT among others. With the recent success of HuK, Ret has a chance to proclaim Team Liquid’s dominance among the foreigner teams with a run through the NASL Finals.
Uncharted Waters
Unlike most of the matchups in the finals, it is unlikely that Ret and PuMa will be familiar with each other’s play style. PuMa may look over the VODs from the regular season or other recent events such as MLG Columbus. Ret will have little recent information, most likely relying on the Open Bracket qualifier games and his opponent’s recent GSTL appearance to get an idea of his playstyle. There are multiple ways to approach an unfamiliar opponent. Some would say it is best to play standard and trust your mechanics as the better player, while others may attempt riskier strategies to catch their opponent off guard. Ret has shown himself to be an incredible macro player, and standard games would likely give him the best chance of victory. Ret holds a 61% winrate against Terran in international events at 41-26, while PuMa is 2-0 in his only appearances against Zerg in competition.
Grand Finale
Anticipation will be high as the inaugural season of NASL comes to a close and players compete for their share of $100,000. Players will need to manage the pressure and stress of playing a weekend-long tournament for such a large sum of money. Tune in July 8-10 or head over to nasl.tv for more information or to purchase tickets to watch the finals live in Ontario, California.
i'm imagining the crowd erupting and cheering boxer's name when he steps foot on the stage... bras flying, women crying, later nerds dying. if only it wasnt MC first round.
but seriously, i hope crowd makes Boxer feel special. like he is.
Shouldn't Puma play against the lowest standing player? Now Ret always has to kick himself for getting the best results. That would also discourage players from slacking in the groupstages.
On July 02 2011 03:53 Kraznaya wrote: If Puma doesn't have nerve issues, I think he takes this.
lol what?
Um, I think he wins the grand final. What part of my post was hard to understand?
isn't Puma doing NASL qualifiers for season 2 right now? has nothing to do with the NASL finals for season 1.
TSL.PuMa facing Ret in ro16 of NASL Live Finals.
You're a waste of space, stop commentating if you dont bother to have your facts right.
LOL thanks for your wonderful input. Perhaps if you scroll a bit down you see I realize my big mistake and offer an apology. But again thank you for patrolling the posts and laying down the law.
commentating != commenting
should I say, "don't bother posting if your english isn't good?" no i prob shouldn't.
On July 02 2011 04:47 Coolwhip wrote: Shouldn't Puma play against the lowest standing player? Now Ret always has to kick himself for getting the best results. That would also discourage players from slacking in the groupstages.
Although not necessarily, this can be 'fixed' with a "Regular Season best player" bonus kind of thing. As in, giving 1k to the player who performs the best, regardless of how he does in the GF. Not for this season ofc, but perhaps for the following season depending on how things go. Would be really amazing if PuMa won the whole thing to be honest :D
Well, MC is such a hard first opponent that if Boxer beats him he'd be riding on a lot confidence throughout the rest of the finals. It's a long shot though.
My caring level about all the other matches has to be measured on a scale of 1 to 'I dont give a fuck': BOXER V. MC IS HAPPENING. askldughaleirjvlakjsdbhlkasdlajslkjh
Pretty good writeup so far, good work. I'm looking forward to see the remaining being realesed, and naturally also the outcome of NASL! With these casters it can only be a pleasure to follow.
On July 02 2011 03:53 Kraznaya wrote: If Puma doesn't have nerve issues, I think he takes this.
lol what?
Um, I think he wins the grand final. What part of my post was hard to understand?
isn't Puma doing NASL qualifiers for season 2 right now? has nothing to do with the NASL finals for season 1.
TSL.PuMa facing Ret in ro16 of NASL Live Finals.
You're a waste of space, stop commentating if you dont bother to have your facts right.
LOL thanks for your wonderful input. Perhaps if you scroll a bit down you see I realize my big mistake and offer an apology. But again thank you for patrolling the posts and laying down the law.
You're damn right, without the mighty zeenix1 this place will be full with a million QTIPs!
I'm SO fucking pumped for this. I wish so badly I could go down (and if I find a really REALLY cheap flight I still might), I think I'm gonna type up a short (by my standards) hype thread eventually myself. Can't hurt I figure. We need to hype THE BALLS off of this thing.
On July 02 2011 06:39 Dexington wrote: Puma will win this EZ. Probably only Zergs until the finals, where he will likely face MC. In my opinion...
Puma>Ret Sheth>Squirtle July>Morrow Moon>HasuObs
Puma>Sheth Moon>July
Puma>Moon
Sen>Zenio Strelok > Darkforce White Ra>Select MC>Boxer
Strelok>Sen MC>White Ra
MC>Strelok
Puma>MC
I don't think we've seen enough of his vP to know if he even stands a chance vs MC. Or did he play some I'm not aware of?
Don't pay attention to ridiculous overhyping, it happens all the time :p
However I do think PuMa is good and may even have a chance if he as good as people think. He was the practice bonjwa of BW so that must count for something right?
On July 02 2011 05:50 Golgotha wrote: will the final match be broadcasted live? as in MLG/GOM/Dreamhack style?
Yes ~
Need more emphasis on this, some reason I don't think people realize all this is going to be a live event. I noticed in compared to a lot of other events, the NASL finals needs more attention for awesomeness~
On July 02 2011 06:39 Dexington wrote: Puma will win this EZ. Probably only Zergs until the finals, where he will likely face MC. In my opinion...
Puma>Ret Sheth>Squirtle July>Morrow Moon>HasuObs
Puma>Sheth Moon>July
Puma>Moon
Sen>Zenio Strelok > Darkforce White Ra>Select MC>Boxer
Strelok>Sen MC>White Ra
MC>Strelok
Puma>MC
I don't think we've seen enough of his vP to know if he even stands a chance vs MC. Or did he play some I'm not aware of?
Don't pay attention to ridiculous overhyping, it happens all the time :p
However I do think PuMa is good and may even have a chance if he as good as people think. He was the practice bonjwa of BW so that must count for something right?
While I too don't fall into the overhyping, Puma is the real deal. The problem is, is that he's known for choking. So I wouldn't put my money on him, but if he shows up 100% he's probably the best player there, one of the best in Korea.
After looking at the bracket, its so hard to predict who will make it out of the first round ... with the expection of maybe HasuObs over Moon.
I really don't know enough about Puma to make a prediction. MC will probably take down Boxer, although I'm rooting for Boxer all the way (and for whatever reason, he's been doing really well in this tournament).
Why is there such a bulk of matches on friday? I don't really plan on taking off work on that day. I'll end up showing up at like 6-7 or something. Instead looks like sunday will be the "chill and relax day" going by the schedule.
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On July 02 2011 08:58 Xeris wrote: OP UPDATED with video interviews!
Those poor guys need subtitles. :\ But much appreciated.
More videos and articles coming. Keep this thread bookmarked !
Their english is so good!
I really do respect the fact that they try to do their interview in English. I can't think of any foreign GSL player trying to do an interview in Korean ... just shows how respectful and hardworking they are.
I almost decided to buy the ticket to attend the grand finals just to see the Emperor, but with Boxer attending MLG Anaheim there's no need anymore. Nonetheless I look forward to watching the finals via stream. Gonna laugh so hard if Puma wins the whole thing without even having to play through the regular season.
These interview are great. I hope NASL try to do something about koreans having to play their matchs in the middle of the night in the next season tho.
well after watching the all of the Vids you can really tell that ST July has the worst English, so ill try and help you guys with my interpretation of what he is saying
Hi i am startale July i am very happy now. i feel great and positive during the seed it was competitive and not the best for me my goal at grand finals is that i like to meet foreign or oGs(?) players, for the grand finals i am training very hard because foreign/oGs(?) players are very good compared to korean players, for my foreign fans, i will give my best play at NASL grand finals, and fight back and be the champion thanks...
well i hope i got it right, i am just not sure if he was saying foreigner or oGs players
On July 02 2011 03:55 iNcontroL wrote: tastosis / day9 casting as well as a live audience already looking to be 500+ (very well could end up over a thousand) is going to be sick.
I am so jacked
Don't forget nerds are all about the last minute, if you build it, they will come. Expect to sell out.
On July 02 2011 08:58 Xeris wrote: OP UPDATED with video interviews!
Those poor guys need subtitles. :\ But much appreciated.
More videos and articles coming. Keep this thread bookmarked !
Their english is so good!
I really do respect the fact that they try to do their interview in English. I can't think of any foreign GSL player trying to do an interview in Korean ... just shows how respectful and hardworking they are.
Jinro spoke in Korean at one of the Code S group selections.
On July 02 2011 04:55 Xeris wrote: MorroW is playing TvZ exclusively.
From your FAQ at nasl.tv:
Will there be any race picking restrictions? We will be locking players to one race for the duration of the season. Players will be allowed to select random as their race.
Does this not apply to the finals? And does July know he'll be playing TvZ and not ZvZ in his first match?
On July 02 2011 08:58 Xeris wrote: OP UPDATED with video interviews!
Those poor guys need subtitles. :\ But much appreciated.
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Their english is so good!
I really do respect the fact that they try to do their interview in English. I can't think of any foreign GSL player trying to do an interview in Korean ... just shows how respectful and hardworking they are.
Jinro spoke in Korean at one of the Code S group selections.
Can't wait to attend this in person, this needs all the hype it can get because it will truly be an awesome event. The NASL experience up until now has been great, and can only imagine the grand finals will be so much better! So excited!
Will there be any race picking restrictions? We will be locking players to one race for the duration of the season. Players will be allowed to select random as their race.
Does this not apply to the finals? And does July know he'll be playing TvZ and not ZvZ in his first match?
Conversely, does Morrow know he's not allowed to play T his first match?
On July 02 2011 04:55 Xeris wrote: MorroW is playing TvZ exclusively.
From your FAQ at nasl.tv:
Will there be any race picking restrictions? We will be locking players to one race for the duration of the season. Players will be allowed to select random as their race.
Does this not apply to the finals? And does July know he'll be playing TvZ and not ZvZ in his first match?
Conversely, does Morrow know he's not allowed to play T his first match?
Well Xeris is saying he will be allowed, despite the fact that their rules originally said otherwise, that's why I'm asking.
MorroW is allowed to play TvZ , since he's declared it well in advance of the finals. Startale has been notified of the change, but he can't switch back to ZvZ.
Well it would be nice if someone told july about morrow's switch, but in the end this works out better for july cause his zvz is awful while tvz is his best matchup.
On July 02 2011 12:30 Canucklehead wrote: Well it would be nice if someone told july about morrow's switch, but in the end this works out better for july cause his zvz is awful while tvz is his best matchup.
I did it already, you don't have to worry about it.
On July 02 2011 08:24 Defacer wrote: After looking at the bracket, its so hard to predict who will make it out of the first round ... with the expection of maybe HasuObs over Moon.
I really don't know enough about Puma to make a prediction. MC will probably take down Boxer, although I'm rooting for Boxer all the way (and for whatever reason, he's been doing really well in this tournament).
Seirously? You're saying it's easy to pick HasuObs over the guy who finished 2nd at Dreamhack (beating Naniwa, a much better toss player BTW) and lost 2-3 to HuK?
Not saying that Hasu will or won't win, just don't understand how this is "easy"...???
If anything Boxer v MC is the easy one to pick (MC), unfortunately for Boxer shoulder issues + not so great play recently will make him a big underdog.
looks awesome, looking at the bracket I'm calling it now: MC vs july grand finals, july's revenge for GSL :D Really looking forward to watching all the matches, only way I would've been even more excited is if Idra made it in.
Wow, so nasl is going to let morrow play tvz whenever he gets zvz? That's pretty unprofessional by both parties... You shouldn't let a player just completely throw a matchoff off their practice list just because it is their weakness...
On July 02 2011 15:45 doihy wrote: Wow, so nasl is going to let morrow play tvz whenever he gets zvz? That's pretty unprofessional by both parties... You shouldn't let a player just completely throw a matchoff off their practice list just because it is their weakness...
The opponent has been notified ahead of time, so it isn't as if he's going to pull the terran card on some unsuspecting zerg player. And I would argue that switching to another race to avoid a mirror matchup takes a lot of practice time, probably more than it would to just get better at ZvZ, so it's not exactly like removing a matchup from your practice list...
Even though it was professionally handled. Race picking should be banned from all tournaments. I dislike the idea of players covering their weak match-ups with a different race. I am definitely rooting against Morrow from now on.
Anyways, as for the interview videos for Koreans... It was a bit cringe-worthy but raw emotion shown through and it was beautiful. Zenio was pretty good. Liked how he expressed how painful the times were for him. LOL
I enjoy people picking races, but to play devil's advocate a little, what if players had contradicting issues with the picks? Say July doesn't play ZvT, but instead prefers PvT ZvP and ZvZ, thinking ZvT is broken. Morrow plays TvZ, ZvP, and ZvT... how would that work? Forced ZvZ as it is their main races? Coinflip?
On July 02 2011 12:29 Xeris wrote: MorroW is allowed to play TvZ , since he's declared it well in advance of the finals. Startale has been notified of the change, but he can't switch back to ZvZ.
That's really all you guys need to know.
So ZvT, ZvP and TvZ all the way through? Seems reasonable to me.
Although from a fanboy point of view, I think mastering the mirror match-up is part of what defines 'the greatness' of a player. Like Nestea wouldn't be Nestea if his ZvZ wasn't so dominant.
On July 02 2011 15:45 doihy wrote: Wow, so nasl is going to let morrow play tvz whenever he gets zvz? That's pretty unprofessional by both parties... You shouldn't let a player just completely throw a matchoff off their practice list just because it is their weakness...
I don't see what's unprofessional about allowing race picking. In fact, most other tournaments do allow that, like Dreamhack or MLG (and MSL and OSL in BW iirc). In MLG you can even switch your race after every GAME...
Also, you throw one matchup off the list and add another, so you still have to practice 3 matchups.
On July 02 2011 15:45 doihy wrote: Wow, so nasl is going to let morrow play tvz whenever he gets zvz? That's pretty unprofessional by both parties... You shouldn't let a player just completely throw a matchoff off their practice list just because it is their weakness...
I don't see what's unprofessional about allowing race picking. In fact, most other tournaments do allow that, like Dreamhack or MLG (and MSL and OSL in BW iirc). In MLG you can even switch your race after every GAME...
Also, you throw one matchup off the list and add another, so you still have to practice 3 matchups.
I can imagine this situation becoming troublesome if it becomes a common thing or a matchup becomes viewed as particularly weak for a certain race or on a certain map.
If one person person plays Z but won't play ZvZ and another person plays Protoss unless it's Zerg then he plays ZvZ...there's going to be a conflict and one person will get his way while the other will be screwed.
Nice interviews, I am hyped! Still a little bit sad that there is no loser bracket, so many players flying around half the world just to play one series.
On July 02 2011 20:13 Maenander wrote: Nice interviews, I am hyped! Still a little bit sad that there is no loser bracket, so many players flying around half the world just to play one series.
Wait, there isnt one? Thats crazy.. wtf O_O
Win a league that goes for months, get seeded vs one of the top terrans from a qualifier because you won, without a losers bracket?
On July 02 2011 15:45 doihy wrote: Wow, so nasl is going to let morrow play tvz whenever he gets zvz? That's pretty unprofessional by both parties... You shouldn't let a player just completely throw a matchoff off their practice list just because it is their weakness...
I don't see what's unprofessional about allowing race picking. In fact, most other tournaments do allow that, like Dreamhack or MLG (and MSL and OSL in BW iirc). In MLG you can even switch your race after every GAME...
Also, you throw one matchup off the list and add another, so you still have to practice 3 matchups.
I can imagine this situation becoming troublesome if it becomes a common thing or a matchup becomes viewed as particularly weak for a certain race or on a certain map.
If one person person plays Z but won't play ZvZ and another person plays Protoss unless it's Zerg then he plays ZvZ...there's going to be a conflict and one person will get his way while the other will be screwed.
Hmm, I guess it only makes sense if one of the two players is race picking and the other not. I have no idea how tournaments would handle a case where both players are race picking, both probably would have to play their standard races.
But for now this is a non-issue, as almost nobody ever does race pick. MorroW is obviously pretty good as Terran as he played it as his main before he switched to Zerg, but I don't think there's a lot of players besides him, who have a good enough off race to risk this.
The korean interviews were sick, some of them are really improving a LOT at English. July's was a touch harder to understand but my favourite. He seemed the most confident speaking english, and I loved his attitude in it ^_^
Still... my prediction having looked at the brackets is MC winning, but I think Ret has a good chance if he plays as well as he did throughout the season.
On July 02 2011 20:07 Beyonder wrote: Hope it goes well, and nice interviews :D Still so sick that ret has to play vs. puma though
Even though i'm not a Ret fan and don't particularly care, I have to agree it's rather harsh of the format to be this way, considering the player coming out of the open, regardless of who it was, was going to be super strong.
Holy check Zenio's English is good and I don't hear any Asian accent in it :O Did he always have such good English? Or did the TL members taught him by communicating a lot in English? Always nice to see the Korean progamers talk in English
On July 02 2011 21:53 shannn wrote: Holy check Zenio's English is good and I don't hear any Asian accent in it :O Did he always have such good English? Or did the TL members taught him by communicating a lot in English? Always nice to see the Korean progamers talk in English
Well, we knew that his english was previously good enough to understand BM from Idra at least lol.
On July 02 2011 20:07 Beyonder wrote: Hope it goes well, and nice interviews :D Still so sick that ret has to play vs. puma though
Even though i'm not a Ret fan and don't particularly care, I have to agree it's rather harsh of the format to be this way, considering the player coming out of the open, regardless of who it was, was going to be super strong.
Given the staggering arrogance behind the decision I'm rooting for Puma to crush everyone.
Ret 2-1 Puma ( Foreign tournament and i feel like puma's tvz is not as strong as his tvt ) Sheth 2-0 Squirtle Morrow 1-2 July ( final game will be close ) Hasuobs 0-2 Moon Sen 2-1 Zenio drkforce 1-2 strelok select 0-2 white ra ( special taktics ftw ) mc 2-0 boxer ( i could be wrong )
Sheth 1-2 Ret July 0-2 Moon Sen 2-1 Strelok White ra 2-1 Mc
On July 02 2011 20:13 Maenander wrote: Nice interviews, I am hyped! Still a little bit sad that there is no loser bracket, so many players flying around half the world just to play one series.
Yep, having players fly halfway around the world for a single Bo3 is... questionable.
I'm usually defending NASL decisions, but having their GRAND FINALS single elimination is pretty wtf worthy.
I'm wondering how on earth the event will take 3 days...I mean 16 players to begin with and its a bo3 to start...is there something other than starcraft there? An hour a day? XD
On July 02 2011 22:39 Olinim wrote: I'm wondering how on earth the event will take 3 days...I mean 16 players to begin with and its a bo3 to start...is there something other than starcraft there? An hour a day? XD
Ret 2-1 Puma ( Foreign tournament and i feel like puma's tvz is not as strong as his tvt ) Sheth 2-0 Squirtle Morrow 1-2 July ( final game will be close ) Hasuobs 0-2 Moon Sen 2-1 Zenio drkforce 1-2 strelok select 0-2 white ra ( special taktics ftw ) mc 2-0 boxer ( i could be wrong )
Sheth 1-2 Ret July 0-2 Moon Sen 2-1 Strelok White ra 2-1 Mc
Ret 0-3 Moon Strelok 1-3 MC
Moon 4-0 MC
Moon is a BAMF
Edit: Where is Naniwa???
You're crazy lol. moon lost to huk and MC's pvz is miles ahead of Huk's.
Ret 2-1 Puma ( Foreign tournament and i feel like puma's tvz is not as strong as his tvt ) Sheth 2-0 Squirtle Morrow 1-2 July ( final game will be close ) Hasuobs 0-2 Moon Sen 2-1 Zenio drkforce 1-2 strelok select 0-2 white ra ( special taktics ftw ) mc 2-0 boxer ( i could be wrong )
Sheth 1-2 Ret July 0-2 Moon Sen 2-1 Strelok White ra 2-1 Mc
Ret 0-3 Moon Strelok 1-3 MC
Moon 4-0 MC
Moon is a BAMF
Edit: Where is Naniwa???
You're crazy lol. moon lost to huk and MC's pvz is miles ahead of Huk's.
On July 02 2011 22:39 Olinim wrote: I'm wondering how on earth the event will take 3 days...I mean 16 players to begin with and its a bo3 to start...is there something other than starcraft there? An hour a day? XD
All the games are casted.
Ro16 is Bo3, Ro8 is Bo5, after that Bo7. Scheduled to stream 25 hours over three days: 22 hours of Starcraft 2 (8 on the first, 10 on the second and 4 on the third day) + 3 hours of ceremonies, musical acts and award (all on the last day).
It's a generous schedule, so I expect quite a bit of downtime.
On July 02 2011 22:39 Olinim wrote: I'm wondering how on earth the event will take 3 days...I mean 16 players to begin with and its a bo3 to start...is there something other than starcraft there? An hour a day? XD
All the games are casted.
Ro16 is Bo3, Ro8 is Bo5, after that Bo7. Scheduled to stream 25 hours over three days: 22 hours of Starcraft 2 (8 on the first, 10 on the second and 4 on the third day) + 3 hours of ceremonies, musical acts and award (all on the last day).
Yeah I guess that does work..unless the bo3s run really short :D
Just to clarify, Morrow will be allowed to play Terran vs a zerg opponent and be zerg vs everyone else throughout grand finals? Or is it just for the first round?
If it is the former I hope everyone in the tournament are notified so they can do their homework. There is so much money on the line and I believe everyone is practicing/studying as much as they can about their opponents/potential opponents.
On July 02 2011 22:54 stork4ever wrote: Just to clarify, Morrow will be allowed to play Terran vs a zerg opponent and be zerg vs everyone else throughout grand finals? Or is it just for the first round?
Xeris said earlier in the thread Morrow is playing TvZ exclusively, which is sad, because I think Morrow has a better chance beating July in ZvZ.
On July 02 2011 22:54 stork4ever wrote: Just to clarify, Morrow will be allowed to play Terran vs a zerg opponent and be zerg vs everyone else throughout grand finals? Or is it just for the first round?
Xeris said earlier in the thread Morrow is playing TvZ exclusively, which is sad, because I think Morrow has a better chance beating July in ZvZ.
Yeah it's a weird one cause July is pretty poor in ZvZ but extremely good in ZvT, I agree Morrow has a much better chance playing Zerg versus July.
On July 02 2011 22:59 Nimic wrote: No double elimination is very disappointing.
Double elimination is not constructive with, starting in Ro8, Bo5s. If you had double Elimation, it means double the matches with have to be Bo3/Bo5/Bo7 aswell. This would delay the games into the night or fuck up the schedule. Double Elimation is great if it's played with Bo3's till Semis like in the Homestory cup, or Bo3 till Finals like in MLG
Double elimination is in general not useful for when the player pool is small and the weaker players already weeded out. This is why TSL is single elimination. This is why Code S is single elimination. This is also why MLG championship stage is essentially a single elimination (with a tiny upper bracket of 4 players).
On July 02 2011 22:39 Olinim wrote: I'm wondering how on earth the event will take 3 days...I mean 16 players to begin with and its a bo3 to start...is there something other than starcraft there? An hour a day? XD
Because unlike most LAN events in which you only get to see 30-40% of the games, we will be broadcasting every single match all throughout the event.
Ro16 will be BO3, RO8 will be BO3, Semi Finals & 3rd place will be BO5, and the Grand Finals will be BO7.
On July 02 2011 22:54 stork4ever wrote: Just to clarify, Morrow will be allowed to play Terran vs a zerg opponent and be zerg vs everyone else throughout grand finals? Or is it just for the first round?
Xeris said earlier in the thread Morrow is playing TvZ exclusively, which is sad, because I think Morrow has a better chance beating July in ZvZ.
Yeah it's a weird one cause July is pretty poor in ZvZ but extremely good in ZvT, I agree Morrow has a much better chance playing Zerg versus July.
well the reason morrow isnt playing ZvZ is obviously since he is not comfortable playing it, and july's ZvZ isnt that bad, he won against sen at dreamhack and his game vs nestea in gsl was close except for that horrible engagement in the end. Morrow's TvZ is still pretty sick so i expect him to atleast be able to take 1 game.
Also i find it kinda weird that its single elim, i get that you guys want to show all the series and thats good but, i would have rather seen less of the games and have it double elim, as europeans pay quite a bit more than what the travel funds from nasl covers only to potentially play 1 bo3 before getting knocked out.
On July 02 2011 23:13 blae000 wrote: WOW! ZENIO interview :D He's english was SO GOOD :D And july XD so cute ^___^ This is going to be an amazing event! :D Sheth FIGHTING! ~
His pronunciation was amazing, definitely the best of the korean progamers I've heard speak. I think he was reading it off a screen though so whether he can actually speak (rather than just read and say) is another thing entirely. MC looked like the only one who answered the questions live without a prepared response.
On July 02 2011 20:05 PeaNuT_T wrote: Zenio has really sick english for a korean even better then MC.
Yeah, until the "ji v ji" (zvz) came ^^
Back at the oGs-TL house walkthrough in, I think, October 2010, Zenio's english was already noted to be pretty good. What I'm really taken with was the enunciations. Asian languages lack several of the phonetic structures English uses, which actually makes going from Asian Language to English pretty brutal compared from English to Asian Language. (They're called Phonemes)
So, except for some really small ones that just don't exist in Korean, it was really good. I was shocked. Hell, I'd say he was more understandable than most of my high school graduating class. >_>
If you haven't watched the Video, you really should. It's not quite baller like MC casting Huk games, but he could definitely have a career later doing translation. Like making carriers, it's a good skill to have.
MC is such a boss. I wish he had the "hardest opponent" translated to him well because it seemed like he answered which adversities were hardest for you :/
On July 02 2011 22:39 Olinim wrote: I'm wondering how on earth the event will take 3 days...I mean 16 players to begin with and its a bo3 to start...is there something other than starcraft there? An hour a day? XD
Because unlike most LAN events in which you only get to see 30-40% of the games, we will be broadcasting every single match all throughout the event.
Ro16 will be BO3, RO8 will be BO3, Semi Finals & 3rd place will be BO5, and the Grand Finals will be BO7.
Hmm, you're allocating 60 minutes for Bo3s on the first and 90 minutes for Bo3s on the second day?
On July 02 2011 23:13 blae000 wrote: WOW! ZENIO interview :D He's english was SO GOOD :D And july XD so cute ^___^ This is going to be an amazing event! :D Sheth FIGHTING! ~
His pronunciation was amazing, definitely the best of the korean progamers I've heard speak. I think he was reading it off a screen though so whether he can actually speak (rather than just read and say) is another thing entirely. MC looked like the only one who answered the questions live without a prepared response.
He was reading the questions, then looking away, so he wasn't reading a script like some of the others. But, I also agree, July was just cute, hehe.
On July 02 2011 22:39 Olinim wrote: I'm wondering how on earth the event will take 3 days...I mean 16 players to begin with and its a bo3 to start...is there something other than starcraft there? An hour a day? XD
Because unlike most LAN events in which you only get to see 30-40% of the games, we will be broadcasting every single match all throughout the event.
Ro16 will be BO3, RO8 will be BO3, Semi Finals & 3rd place will be BO5, and the Grand Finals will be BO7.
Hmm, you're allocating 60 minutes for Bo3s on the first and 90 minutes for Bo3s on the second day?
According to the schedule, on friday the matches start at 6 pm (PST) and there are going to be 8 BO3s played that night.
Is this accurate? Because if it is it is pretty stupid scheduling. You're making it literally impossible for europeans to watch much more than maybe a match or 2 to start. And you're making it annoying for east-coasters to watch (as the matches will probably go until 2 or 3 am or something).
Honestly why aren't the games starting a bit earlier (say 3?). Is it just because you want to be able to get a bigass crowd and you don't want to deal with people not being able to attend because of work?
Man I'm hoping the schedule is just wrong on the site. Because that is way too many matches for one day (starting that late).
Will I be able to buy a ticket for just the finals stream? At this stage only buying a season ticket doesn't seem worth it - even with the vods - as I already ultimately know who will advance from the groups. I would tho be interested in buying a pass just for the Finals, as I'm sure others would be, and if it was a good show it would certainly make me more inclined to get a season 2 pass.
I know there is a "one week pass" on website but the links never worked. Will this be available for the final? Thanks in advance for any info
On July 03 2011 01:19 DoomsVille wrote: According to the schedule, on friday the matches start at 6 pm (PST) and there are going to be 8 BO3s played that night.
Is this accurate? Because if it is it is pretty stupid scheduling. You're making it literally impossible for europeans to watch much more than maybe a match or 2 to start. And you're making it annoying for east-coasters to watch (as the matches will probably go until 2 or 3 am or something).
Honestly why aren't the games starting a bit earlier (say 3?). Is it just because you want to be able to get a bigass crowd and you don't want to deal with people not being able to attend because of work?
Man I'm hoping the schedule is just wrong on the site. Because that is way too many matches for one day (starting that late).
It starts 11am Friday July 8th and Saturday July 9th locally (Pacific time) and noon Sunday July 10th. These time is actually great for Europeans, equivalent to 1900 London 2000 Central Europe Friday and Saturday; 2000 London 2100 Central Europe Sunday.
On July 03 2011 01:24 Dustus wrote: Will I be able to buy a ticket for just the finals stream? At this stage only buying a season ticket doesn't seem worth it - even with the vods - as I already ultimately know who will advance from the groups. I would tho be interested in buying a pass just for the Finals, as I'm sure others would be, and if it was a good show it would certainly make me more inclined to get a season 2 pass.
I know there is a "one week pass" on website but the links never worked. Will this be available for the final? Thanks in advance for any info
You can get $10 off the season pass to watch the finals, by entering the code: nasls1playoffs
I'd much rather this was double elim and not all matches casted, you're bound to have a higher quality of games that way. Let's be honest, some of the matches (Hasu v Moon) just fade compared to some instant classics like MC vs Boxer.
On July 03 2011 02:16 ChickenLips wrote: btw, Dignitas's SeleCT should be Dignitas' SeleCT
Hey, Mr. Grammar Police! If you're going to point out errors, you should at least try to be correct. Most English grammar manuals state that you should use 's for the possessive form of singular nouns ending in -s or that either 's or just an ' is acceptable.
On July 03 2011 05:48 Uhh Negative wrote: Who the hell is Puma? Did someone change their name or something? I've never watched him play a game and I watched a lot of NASL.
He won the NASL open tournament. He is also known as Gentleman, and had a sick showing versus Prime in the GSTL.
Also, he was pretty famous in BW, for supposedly being a practice bonjwa but never able to translate that onto the big stage, he was a TvT pratice partner for Flash at times as well.
Xeris, you're going to need to achieve an Incontrol-level hyping. I feel that the hype train hasn't started rolling yet, if Incontrol was doing the hype train, we'd already be going at 88 miles per hour
On July 03 2011 01:19 DoomsVille wrote: According to the schedule, on friday the matches start at 6 pm (PST) and there are going to be 8 BO3s played that night.
Is this accurate? Because if it is it is pretty stupid scheduling. You're making it literally impossible for europeans to watch much more than maybe a match or 2 to start. And you're making it annoying for east-coasters to watch (as the matches will probably go until 2 or 3 am or something).
Honestly why aren't the games starting a bit earlier (say 3?). Is it just because you want to be able to get a bigass crowd and you don't want to deal with people not being able to attend because of work?
Man I'm hoping the schedule is just wrong on the site. Because that is way too many matches for one day (starting that late).
It starts 11am Friday July 8th and Saturday July 9th locally (Pacific time) and noon Sunday July 10th. These time is actually great for Europeans, equivalent to 1900 London 2000 Central Europe Friday and Saturday; 2000 London 2100 Central Europe Sunday.
Can some one confirm the schedule please? I'm already taking time off of work to go watch NASL. Last thing I need is a schedule mess up. Some one PLEASE confirm if this is the actual schedule or the one on the website is the right one?
I cant agree with forcing the koreans to talk in english, wonder if the gsl forced the players in the world all stards interview to talk in korean, makes no sense. And every organzation fixed one or two translators for live events, NASL Im sure that have the resources to fix a translator and do not force them to talk so ankward in english.
On July 03 2011 22:02 HelloxD wrote: This tournament is going to be sick! I want to know if there are gonna be any showmatches.. and who replace strelok
TSLaLive replaces strelok, as he is the runner up of the open tournament.
Single elim bo3s to start out... man that's just HARSH. Especially when you consider how many games some people had to play (tiebreakers, playoff qualifier) and how long travel times will be for some. Travelling for like 20+ hours, to face the prospect of being out of the tournament after only 2 games... I dunno :/
I understand the argument of "you'll be able to watch every game" but still, I'd prefer group play or double elim over this format any day. For example I really enjoyed the DHS format with multiple streams... I mean ofc you can't watch every single game then, but the ability to watch pretty much every game/ every player I really WANTED to watch beats this easily.
I just think NASL is wasting a huge opportunity there, players like MC or BoxeR generate huge viewer interest, and one of those two will play 3 games at most. :/
lol I don't know why but zenio's interview is cracking me up. I also feel sorry for Darkforce, he thought he was lucky for getting strelok... instead he gets a Korean ^^.
Those interviews look kind of lackluster, like some shabby homemade video (which they probably are). I hope they will be redone when they arrive in the states. Nonetheless, this will be a great event, I'll definitely watch it.
On July 04 2011 00:26 JustPassingBy wrote: Those interviews look kind of lackluster, like some shabby homemade video (which they probably are). I hope they will be redone when they arrive in the states. Nonetheless, this will be a great event, I'll definitely watch it.
EDIT: Sorry I didn't see the schedule. Weird, the NASL official site says Friday matches start at 6pm pst but they actually start a lot earlier according to a poster a few pages back.
On July 04 2011 00:40 Sumwar wrote: EDIT: Sorry I didn't see the schedule. Weird, the NASL official site says Friday matches start at 6pm pst but they actually start a lot earlier according to a poster a few pages back.
That's a bug on the website we're going to have changed!
WhiteRa is asked to film an interview, so he decides to go to a Lake, with millions upon millions of dollars in yachts behind him. And the camera operator follows a sea gull.
I love the interviews that the NASL put on. Whether its the Koreans speaking English or the after game reviews, it really lets us connect with the players.
For all the flaws of NASL...I feel they got this part right!
Hopefully Select can do well despite his recent performances, otherwise whitera vs select will be the most onesided match >.> plus I don't want a pvp in the ro8 xD.
On July 04 2011 08:49 Olinim wrote: Hopefully Select can do well despite his recent performances, otherwise whitera vs select will be the most onesided match >.> plus I don't want a pvp in the ro8 xD.
I think White-Ra vs MC again would be a PvP worth watching
If you are super hyped and want to watch in person... come to the Ontario Convention Center in Ontario (CALIFORNIA) July 8-10! Meet your favorite pro-gamers, meet Day9, Tasteless, Gretorp, iNcontroL, and Artosis... and watch some awesome games!
If you are super hyped and want to watch in person... come to the Ontario Convention Center in Ontario (CALIFORNIA) July 8-10! Meet your favorite pro-gamers, meet Day9, Tasteless, Gretorp, iNcontroL, and Artosis... and watch some awesome games!
What about the people who are gonna attend aglow?
No idea what that is, but probably not as cool as NASL
If you are super hyped and want to watch in person... come to the Ontario Convention Center in Ontario (CALIFORNIA) July 8-10! Meet your favorite pro-gamers, meet Day9, Tasteless, Gretorp, iNcontroL, and Artosis... and watch some awesome games!
What about the people who are gonna attend aglow?
No idea what that is, but probably not as cool as NASL
I looked at convention center calendar and that was listed same day as you.
If you are super hyped and want to watch in person... come to the Ontario Convention Center in Ontario (CALIFORNIA) July 8-10! Meet your favorite pro-gamers, meet Day9, Tasteless, Gretorp, iNcontroL, and Artosis... and watch some awesome games!
What about the people who are gonna attend aglow?
No idea what that is, but probably not as cool as NASL
I looked at convention center calendar and that was listed same day as you.
I mean, the Convention Center has different stuff going on... we have a ballroom exclusively for us.
If you are super hyped and want to watch in person... come to the Ontario Convention Center in Ontario (CALIFORNIA) July 8-10! Meet your favorite pro-gamers, meet Day9, Tasteless, Gretorp, iNcontroL, and Artosis... and watch some awesome games!
What about the people who are gonna attend aglow?
No idea what that is, but probably not as cool as NASL
I looked at convention center calendar and that was listed same day as you.
I mean, the Convention Center has different stuff going on... we have a ballroom exclusively for us.
' i very happy to be in NASL and take second place' '.....*was reading zenio vs sen*....' 'i try prepare and troll my best like special white ra taktics, special tactics'
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
On July 03 2011 23:45 paloo wrote: Single elim bo3s to start out... man that's just HARSH. Especially when you consider how many games some people had to play (tiebreakers, playoff qualifier) and how long travel times will be for some. Travelling for like 20+ hours, to face the prospect of being out of the tournament after only 2 games... I dunno :/
I understand the argument of "you'll be able to watch every game" but still, I'd prefer group play or double elim over this format any day. For example I really enjoyed the DHS format with multiple streams... I mean ofc you can't watch every single game then, but the ability to watch pretty much every game/ every player I really WANTED to watch beats this easily.
I just think NASL is wasting a huge opportunity there, players like MC or BoxeR generate huge viewer interest, and one of those two will play 3 games at most. :/
screw mc and boxer I'm going there for WeMadeFox's MOOOOOOOOOOOOO ( moon )
On July 02 2011 03:55 iNcontroL wrote: tastosis / day9 casting as well as a live audience already looking to be 500+ (very well could end up over a thousand) is going to be sick.
I am so jacked
I've bought tickets for myself and friends and I'm stoked too. Even though I live in west LA, I've booked a hotel room.
To anyone searching for a hotel for a group of people (4-8), I recommend the Residence Inn right across from the convention center. I haven't stayed at this particular location, but the rooms are very nice: Lofted with 2br and 2 bath. I'm renting my suite for only $125 a night with AAA discount. It comes out to only $55 a person for both nights. I think there's a kitchen too for those who enjoy ice cold beer, saving money on food, etc.
i really really really really want to see ret do well. Hes such deserving player. been following him since bw and hes just a player i feel like is soooooooo good but needs the results
Ret being the number 1 seed is going to put him at a disadvantage. He's going to have to face PuMa who is no slouch.
The GF qualifier tournament conflicts me in that sense. Other players work hard for 9 weeks preparing for specific matches while you get this Korean ladder hero who roflstomps the qualifier and gets in the top 16.
Although I do understand NASL gives the players a lot of exposure as well. It just seems a bit weird??
This deserves way more love than it's getting, whatever you thought of the regular season you might as well just consider it an elaborate online qualifier for a 16 man finals in what's shaping up to be a killer venue and I hope plenty of people make it out there. I mean look at this!
I am so excited. Friday morning I'm gonna go get a bunch of unhealthy snacks and by 2pm est I will be ready to watch some amazing matches until sunday night. Boo yea.
On July 07 2011 13:38 Grr Arr Rawr wrote: I'm very disappointed with the White-Ra interview.
... He learned how to pronounce "micro".
Given that english is pretty much the only language pronouncing "mikro/micro/микро/μικρo" differently from WhiteRa, the joke was pretty much lost on non-native speakers
will there be a price reduction for the last days like there was for HSC? I can't see myself spending 25 bucks just to see a 16man single-elim bracket in HD.
On July 07 2011 22:16 MassIncestor wrote: will there be a price reduction for the last days like there was for HSC? I can't see myself spending 25 bucks just to see a 16man single-elim bracket in HD.
There was a $10 off code, but I think it may have already ended. Not sure.
Ret vs Puma 0:2 (I'm sorry ret, but there is just no chance, but i will rooting for you! <3 ) Sheth vs Squirtle 0:2 (I don't think that sheth had enough time to prepare like squirtle did..) Morrow vs July 1:2 ( Morrow's t is really good from what i heard.. will be close!) HasuObs vs Moon 2:1 (first real upset! HasuObs is a preparing monster, like in tsl) Sen vs Zenio 1:2 (Zenio's zvz is just too good) Darkforce vs aLive 0:2 (poor darkorce was preparing for strelok and alive is gonna be too good) Select vs WhiteRa 1:2 (gonna be a weird fun series!) MC vs Boxer 1:2 (the emperor is gonna win!)
Puma vs Squirtle 2:1 July vs HasuObs 2:1 Zenio vs aLive 0:2 WhiteRa vs Boxer 1:2
On July 08 2011 17:55 Moosey wrote: I may be completely blind, but I've looked everywhere. Does anyone know if there is a weekend//finals pass for online NASL?
I'd absolutely love to show some support, paying $5 or whatever to be able to watch for the weekend, but cannot bring myself to pay the $25 fee.
Also, go White Ra!
umm I have been a NASL subscriber since day 1 and have had very few complaints if any but ..
why in the world wasn't there something like this ?
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