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On July 02 2011 17:49 AndAgain wrote:
What if you got a hack that enabled you to have wins without even playing any games, would you get satisfaction out of that?
Edit: as you said, "it's all about the match result."
Yea should start working on a hack that gives you an instant 10000000000000-0 record and a fucking E-Trophy so you can move on with life, dickehead.
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On July 02 2011 17:50 ValiantChaos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 17:35 Mooov2 wrote:
No non signature offset scans that could cause a bump? A signature scan in warden could easily detect the hack, yes but currently there have been no new Warden scans for a while. Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 17:40 Aim Here wrote:
I've got to ask. How does a drophack make the game better for anybody? It's a way of not playing the game at all. The winhack leaked is not mine, nor did I find the exploit used nor have I found any drophack exploits although I have recreated a couple from replays and a crash log but still I never once released any and don't agree with a drophack being public or sold anyways. But the reasons why people like to use of a drophack I can tell you, to make them when at times they don't feel like losing or to abuse the crap out of it for the laughs, which in this case most are doing with trial accounts.
Hackers are the lowest form of life. As far as I'm concerned the community would be better off if you were hit by a bus. Get the fuck out and never come back.
You may not realize it, but when you cheat playing starcraft there's somebody on the other side who has to experience that abysmally unfair disadvantage. You don't like to lose? Guess what, the guy who you cheat out of the game doesn't like to lose either! And most of the time they probably attribute their loss to their own personal mistakes, when really they only lost because the scumbag they were playing with is too insecure with himself to play fairly. You fucking disgust me.
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What's the point of even using a maphack at all? You're still going to lose just as many games as you would have lost without the maphack but you'll be playing against people who are clearly superior to you in mechanics and game sense, making it seem even more hopeless.
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On July 02 2011 17:57 onmach wrote:
What's the point of even using a maphack at all? You're still going to lose just as many games as you would have lost without the maphack but you'll be playing against people who are clearly superior to you in mechanics and game sense, making it seem even more hopeless.
Haha didn't even think about that, so true.
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On July 02 2011 17:17 ValiantChaos wrote:
Ruining the game it may seem like that to you but for me and the users of my work it makes the game better for us with the users providing many ideas to help improve the hack. I like to win, and hate being cheesed so you can imagine how much maphack and production tab helps.
It's funny how you try to justify actions to yourself that cannot be justified. You're taking away a big part of the skill requirement, which is making conclusions out of limited information. With this advantage you're elevating yourself to a skill level where you do not belong, but that doesn't make you win any more than playing at your real skill level because you're bad at other aspects of the game aswell. So overall, you're not having more fun, you do not win more and you're not getting better at playing SC2. Only your coding skills and the ability to lie to yourself raise.
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On July 02 2011 17:57 onmach wrote:
What's the point of even using a maphack at all? You're still going to lose just as many games as you would have lost without the maphack but you'll be playing against people who are clearly superior to you in mechanics and game sense, making it seem even more hopeless.
This point sticks out the most for me. Your win rate is going to be the same with or without the hack... so what is the difference?
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Im just an armsdealer, i dont shoot the people myself, so im not to blame, and i am a good person !... pfff
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On July 02 2011 17:35 ValiantChaos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 17:25 holycrapitsTony wrote:
You only make your wins illegitimate. Suppose, but that doesn't worry me. It's not like I am playing to be a badass competitive player to feel good about my legitimate wins, with the hacks I use I am still only around diamond level play. Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 17:31 Riskr wrote:
I like to win is really funny in this sentence,cause he never won actually,he cheated. Its all about the match result, if it says I win then I am happy. Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 17:35 Nexic wrote:
Map hackers complaining about cheese.... o_O
Difficult to rationalize that one. lol. You can still lose to cheese quite easily, but it becomes much easier to counter.
would me linking blizzard to your hacks help them get rid of them faster? I did anyway I`m just curious if them knowing what site and stuff helps shut this down faster. Also get a life and stop trying to take shortcuts. Pick up a hobby you cant "code your way ahead" that way your particular skill wouldn`t ruin something for thousands upon thousand of people. There are no shortcuts in life the sooner you get that through your head the better.
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On July 02 2011 17:57 onmach wrote:
What's the point of even using a maphack at all? You're still going to lose just as many games as you would have lost without the maphack but you'll be playing against people who are clearly superior to you in mechanics and game sense, making it seem even more hopeless.
This is so true haha. It's posts like these that make me wish we had some of giving rep 
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On July 02 2011 17:17 ValiantChaos wrote:
Ruining the game it may seem like that to you but for me and the users of my work it makes the game better for us with the users providing many ideas to help improve the hack. I like to win, and hate being cheesed so you can imagine how much maphack and production tab helps.
That would be fine if you were just playing custom games with friends for fun and no stats. But the fact is you ruin the ladder with that shit, which is where the line is crossed.
EDIT: And you say you aren't playing to be a super competitive player, but that's clearly false or you wouldn't be playing ladder and cheating to get wins. Fact is, you're a wannabe competitive player, but you aren't good enough so you resort to cheating.
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saw vibe get drop hacked 3 times on his stream. he lost around 70 pts and considering he is near the top of the GM league, that sucks. i hope this gets fixed soon.
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On July 02 2011 18:23 Kvz wrote:
saw vibe get drop hacked 3 times on his stream. he lost around 70 pts and considering he is near the top of the GM league, that sucks. i hope this gets fixed soon.
No offense, but knowing how wide spread this retarded hack is right now, it's the players stupidity for continuing to play.
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The worst part about this is that the pros are not streaming now because of the hack, and I am really in the mood to at least see someone play.
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On July 02 2011 17:17 ValiantChaos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 16:24 Moonling wrote:
Why hasn't this guy been banned yet QQ. Why make a hack and then say "it was a nice experience to learn from? Maybe you should read the forum rules and answer your own question, don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure that out. User was banned for this post.
Well isn't that ironic...
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I can see how maphacking can be kinda fun,, being god and seeing everything might be fun for some. But how a drophacker can enjoy what he does is something i cannot understand. They must spend 90% of their gaming time watching loading screens, and during the last 10% they're not even playing the game.
I can't help but wonder who these people are. What kind of person sits around and spends time doing this? It's fucking mind-boggling and it makes my head hurt thinking about it. I've never seen or talked to one of these bugs IRL so i feel this EXTREME need to know who they are. I want to read their existence and find out what vent wrong and when it happened,,
;ight want to slap whoever spawned them too..
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On July 02 2011 17:35 ValiantChaos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 17:31 Riskr wrote:
I like to win is really funny in this sentence,cause he never won actually,he cheated. Its all about the match result, if it says I win then I am happy.
Write "You won the game! Congratulations!" on a blank sheet, stick it to your computer and stare at it for the rest of your life. There, solved it for you.
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I will never understand dropshackers. You play a game to enjoy it, why would you want to spend an hour or two of your day watching games lag out. Do people like this only like to watch the buffering screen on videos as well, not the actual video? And it is not like you are getting any money or anything for winning a game on ladder. Seems like madness to me, but i guess there is no understanding people like that.
I hate that it is making pros not want to stream, hope that blizz fixes this quick.
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On July 02 2011 18:04 eteran wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 17:17 ValiantChaos wrote:
Ruining the game it may seem like that to you but for me and the users of my work it makes the game better for us with the users providing many ideas to help improve the hack. I like to win, and hate being cheesed so you can imagine how much maphack and production tab helps. It's funny how you try to justify actions to yourself that cannot be justified. You're taking away a big part of the skill requirement, which is making conclusions out of limited information. With this advantage you're elevating yourself to a skill level where you do not belong, but that doesn't make you win any more than playing at your real skill level because you're bad at other aspects of the game aswell. So overall, you're not having more fun, you do not win more and you're not getting better at playing SC2. Only your coding skills and the ability to lie to yourself raise.
I don't cheat in SC2 but I understand the mentality why someone would cheat, unlike you.
"You're taking away a big part of the skill requirement, which is making conclusions out of limited information."
What if that's a good thing? I know many many people on TL hate cheese. Knowing a proxy 2gate, 6pool or banshee rush is coming can turn that into "lol I pwned that cheeser nub  " instead.
In addition, maphacking can help learn the gameplay of other players. You'll know the timings of everything what the other player is doing and you'll see patterns in everyones gameplay. Using those patterns you'll be able to use them to do better against opponents even when you are not cheating.
+ comparison to cs if anyone plays it: maphack is like a wallhack and drophack is like rage/multihack. There's your reasoning why people use drophack: to just pwn the other people without any effort.
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Dear ValiantChaos,
not at any point did a single one of your arguments make any semblance of rational or logical thought.
You are a scrub who lacks the motivation to improve and self-evaluate so you cheat instead, and then think you actually have a chance at justifying yourself, all while ruining the game for other players. You are a failure in numerous ways, but you already know and understand that. I don't really specifically want bad things to happen to you personally, but if you got hit by a bus or maybe a disease or ended your own life, I'd probably wouldn't be sad really. In fact that might be kind of nice. That's all.
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On July 02 2011 19:03 HoMM wrote:I don't cheat in SC2 but I understand the mentality why someone would cheat, unlike you. "You're taking away a big part of the skill requirement, which is making conclusions out of limited information." What if that's a good thing? I know many many people on TL hate cheese. Knowing a proxy 2gate, 6pool or banshee rush is coming can turn that into "lol I pwned that cheeser nub " instead.
One uses scouting for this, just like every non-cheater does.
On July 02 2011 19:03 HoMM wrote:
In addition, maphacking can help learn the gameplay of other players. You'll know the timings of everything what the other player is doing and you'll see patterns in everyones gameplay. Using those patterns you'll be able to use them to do better against opponents even when you are not cheating.
One uses replays for this, just like every non-cheater does.
I think the point of cheating is to gain success without effort - they don't want to improve in any way, they want success and they want it NOW. For drop-hackers it's maybe exciting because they can jerk off to the fact that they got a win-icon against some pro gamers.
EDIT VC himself wrote that he hates losing, so that's the point. If it could be achieved so easily in other things, he would do it aswell.
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