Lag hack on NA ladder - Page 34

On July 02 2011 20:28 Mykill wrote:
oh boo smurf hacking really hurts the players. =(

On July 02 2011 19:12 kusto wrote:


One uses scouting for this, just like every non-cheater does.



One uses replays for this, just like every non-cheater does.

I think the point of cheating is to gain success without effort - they don't want to improve in any way, they want success and they want it NOW. For drop-hackers it's maybe exciting because they can jerk off to the fact that they got a win-icon against some pro gamers.

EDIT VC himself wrote that he hates losing, so that's the point. If it could be achieved so easily in other things, he would do it aswell.

On July 02 2011 23:24 HoMM wrote:


1.) Scouting costs. Sacrificing a worker is 50 minerals + lost potential mining time. Using a scan is potential 270 minerals. Even upon doing all, even the very top pro players still can't always achieve perfect scouting and often times can be caught off guard: imagine say DT's.

2.) You can actually have fun, you can play the way you want to play. You can just macro up instead of getting early-game cheesed.

3.) Sure, you could use replays, but you can't test what your opponent would react if you had made another decision upon knowing what he was doing. In addition, viewing replays takes time. Time is money. Save time by breaking Blizzards ToS? Sounds good to me.

On July 02 2011 23:24 HoMM wrote:


1.) Scouting costs. Sacrificing a worker is 50 minerals + lost potential mining time. Using a scan is potential 270 minerals. Even upon doing all, even the very top pro players still can't always achieve perfect scouting and often times can be caught off guard: imagine say DT's.

2.) You can actually have fun, you can play the way you want to play. You can just macro up instead of getting early-game cheesed.

3.) Sure, you could use replays, but you can't test what your opponent would react if you had made another decision upon knowing what he was doing. In addition, viewing replays takes time. Time is money. Save time by breaking Blizzards ToS? Sounds good to me.

I don't cheat and I don't recommend cheating, but the ignorant views in this thread are pretty bad imo. I can understand why you'd be frustrated but no need to start insulting people, you wont accomplish anything with it.

On July 02 2011 23:24 HoMM wrote:
1.) Scouting costs. Sacrificing a worker is 50 minerals + lost potential mining time. Using a scan is potential 270 minerals. Even upon doing all, even the very top pro players still can't always achieve perfect scouting and often times can be caught off guard: imagine say DT's.

2.) You can actually have fun, you can play the way you want to play. You can just macro up instead of getting early-game cheesed.

3.) Sure, you could use replays, but you can't test what your opponent would react if you had made another decision upon knowing what he was doing. In addition, viewing replays takes time. Time is money. Save time by breaking Blizzards ToS? Sounds good to me.

On July 02 2011 23:35 Conti wrote:

Don't play the fucking game if you disagree with its core gameplay elements. It's that simple.

There's nothing to "understand" about cheating, it ruins the fun for those who are not cheating. It's a selfish, arrogant act and deserves all the insults we can come up with.

On July 02 2011 23:43 HoMM wrote:


I don't disagree with the core gameplay elements.
I don't play the game also.

"it ruins the fun for those who are not cheating"
and that's a problem how? umad??????

On July 02 2011 23:43 HoMM wrote:
"it ruins the fun for those who are not cheating"
and that's a problem how? umad??????

On July 02 2011 11:05 Entropic wrote:
RapDawg let me win a game lol (am I that 1 loss :D). But right now he's dropping me after a failed 6pool on shakuras.

Hit him 3 times in 6-7 games now -_-

On July 02 2011 23:24 HoMM wrote:


1.) Scouting costs. Sacrificing a worker is 50 minerals + lost potential mining time. Using a scan is potential 270 minerals. Even upon doing all, even the very top pro players still can't always achieve perfect scouting and often times can be caught off guard: imagine say DT's.

2.) You can actually have fun, you can play the way you want to play. You can just macro up instead of getting early-game cheesed.

3.) Sure, you could use replays, but you can't test what your opponent would react if you had made another decision upon knowing what he was doing. In addition, viewing replays takes time. Time is money. Save time by breaking Blizzards ToS? Sounds good to me.

I don't cheat and I don't recommend cheating, but the ignorant views in this thread are pretty bad imo. I can understand why you'd be frustrated but no need to start insulting people, you wont accomplish anything with it.

On July 02 2011 23:58 K_Dilkington wrote:
As stated earlier Blizzard needs to limit guest accounts to only custom games. They also need to put alot of resources in tracking and banning any player that use these hacks.

On July 03 2011 00:02 Excludos wrote:


While I actually agree with you, I can see why they wont. Blizzard is quite proud of their ladder matchmaking system after all, and wishes to show it to as many people as they can. + theres a chance people with trial accounts will get hooked on trying to get better through the ladder, and thus a bigger chance of people actually ending up buying the game.

On July 03 2011 00:02 Excludos wrote:


While I actually agree with you, I can see why they wont. Blizzard is quite proud of their ladder matchmaking system after all, and wishes to show it to as many people as they can. + theres a chance people with trial accounts will get hooked on trying to get better through the ladder, and thus a bigger chance of people actually ending up buying the game.

On July 03 2011 00:15 sick_transit wrote:


Cap trial accounts at a lower league like silver or gold. This would eliminate a big incentive for the idiots who do this (notoriety of drop hacking GMs). Not a complete solution but it would help.

On July 03 2011 00:17 Olinim wrote:

They would still get matched with GM's with their MMR. And if you lock their MMR too, the legit players might get to like diamond + really fast then just own everyone in gold...doesn't seem like a good solution to me.