EPTHe joined root not for the corporate sponsors that worry oh so hard about dads who let their daughters watch sc2 in diapers but because they have many great players that helped improve him to be the player he is today.
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TheFavorite1
United States27 Posts
He joined root not for the corporate sponsors that worry oh so hard about dads who let their daughters watch sc2 in diapers but because they have many great players that helped improve him to be the player he is today. | ||
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CrayAB
United States24 Posts
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thnikkaman
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Werk
United States294 Posts
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cereals
United States12 Posts
On June 23 2011 13:20 thnikkaman wrote: So let me get this straight.. he signed the contract without the intent of honouring it? why didn't he talk to CoL to revise his contract or opt out of it? I think this was very unprofessional of him. After something like this if I was a pro gaming team I wouldn't even think of picking up Destiny. Destiny said he had half a day to sign the contract. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=236315¤tpage=7#123 Although unprofessional, its understandable. | ||
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TunaSC
Canada11 Posts
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QuesterX
Australia32 Posts
Destiny is great, his stream has taught me so much about being a zerg player. He really isn't that vulgar on stream and i think he is kind of funny. Entering into a contract without the will to honour it is a bit dog but coming from him i think he just didn't see it as a 'contract'. a big mistake. I agree, he will probably end up on six jax, they seem like a team that needs a good zerg player with tournament experience. | ||
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Esjihn
United States164 Posts
 i feel for the guy. | ||
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CosmicHippo
United States547 Posts
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Mikilatov
United States3897 Posts
On June 23 2011 12:53 rewsky wrote: The difference is Idra doesn't have a child that is dependent upon his financial success. Basically - if you don't have any dependents and love living the poor life - by all means - stream sc2. If you want to make a living, I recommend a more stable career choice. Guys, I'm sure Destiny doesn't need your life advice. This thread has nothing to do with his family or how he chooses to raise his child. I don't like the guy's stream either, but he makes plenty of money via his SC2 endeavors to support his family. Leave his future to him, I'm sure he'll be fine, just like the millions of other young parents who don't finish college. As far as the topic is concerned, it's understandable that a company wouldn't want to sponsor someone who hosts the variety of content which he does. I don't personally like or enjoy his content, but obviously many people do, and that's great. It does kinda suck that he signed it knowing that it wasn't exactly what he wanted, but he acknowledges that. Best of luck to Destiny in finding a team that will accept him as he is, or if he decides to go teamless. | ||
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
Honestly i think this was inevitable. When the initial announcement came out that he'd joined, i was shocked. Here's a supposedly legit team signing a guy who has no intention of being a 'pro gamer'. I consider him a 'pro streamer'. They're apples and oranges. He was never going to fit in, he made that abundantly clear with his recent SotG and WoC appearances. Changing his conduct to suit other people's needs is not Destiny's destiny. I just can't see him joining a real pro team with real sponsors and a real public image which needs to be maintained. I won't lie, i don't care for the guy at all. I find his world view to be ridiculous. Maybe in 100 years he'd fit right in, not in 2011. But if it's true that he only signed the contract to help his Root broskis out, knowing they needed the deal and knowing he wouldn't be able to honour it, then in that case he took one for the team. I respect that. All in all isn't this kinda where we should be? The serious Root guys are on a bigger team which hopefully means more opportunity for them, and Destiny is now shackle free and he can go back to doing his thing. Good luck to all parties. Everything. Everything in its right place. | ||
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sefio
103 Posts
On June 23 2011 05:40 Coldplum wrote: This is going to destroy complexity's shot at playing competitively Yeah they'll never succeed without a masters Zerg. | ||
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slytown
Korea (South)1411 Posts
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Quintum_
United States669 Posts
On June 23 2011 13:05 zoLo wrote: IdrA is a smart guy. He said that if he hadn't gone to Korea during the Brood War days, then he would have major somewhere in the category of physics or engineering. He said that if the progaming scene doesn't work out for him, then he will go back to college. He got accepted into one when he graduated high school and had an agreement with admissions that he can come back when he wanted to. He turned down a scholarship to study theoretical physics at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute to play SC xp. So ya he has options should he not want to do SC anymore. From what i am getting destiny did not want to do all the team stuff like promoting the team and things along those lines, not so much for his "attitude". Seems he wants to play SC just to play SC, not to make it a Job, which is kinda odd since it seems like a big part of his income comes form SC. To each there own I guess. | ||
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rewsky
United States27 Posts
On June 23 2011 13:38 Goibon wrote: If its true that he had half a day to sign it then its the merger process which is just an unprofessional as Destiny not honouring the contract. Is half a day enough time to get your lawyer to view it? I don't think so. This whole merger process is really iffy... i really don't even want to comment on it but that's kinda what this thread is about. Ugh. Honestly i think this was inevitable. When the initial announcement came out that he'd joined, i was shocked. Here's a supposedly legit team signing a guy who has no intention of being a 'pro gamer'. I consider him a 'pro streamer'. They're apples and oranges. He was never going to fit in, he made that abundantly clear with his recent SotG and WoC appearances. Changing his conduct to suit other people's needs is not Destiny's destiny. I just can't see him joining a real pro team with real sponsors and a real public image which needs to be maintained. I won't lie, i don't care for the guy at all. I find his world view to be ridiculous. Maybe in 100 years he'd fit right in, not in 2011. But if it's true that he only signed the contract to help his Root broskis out, knowing they needed the deal and knowing he wouldn't be able to honour it, then in that case he took one for the team. I respect that. All in all isn't this kinda where we should be? The serious Root guys are on a bigger team which hopefully means more opportunity for them, and Destiny is now shackle free and he can go back to doing his thing. Good luck to all parties. Everything. Everything in its right place. I don't think this is the sort of contract you hire a lawyer for - I certainly didn't hire a lawyer to read my employment contract, or my lease, or plenty of other contracts. I doubt it was a complex legal document filled with legalese. Both parties are happy with the end result though, so I doubt it really matters. No real drama here - both parted ways and both wanted it to end that way. | ||
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
I think Destiny is one of the big personalities in Sc2 and maybe he should go that way instead. Keep up his stream and try to maybe do casting or maybe take incontrols place in state of the game etc who knows. I think he would be a better fit there at least. | ||
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OptimusYale
Korea (South)1005 Posts
I can see him joining someone like SixJax or another minor team (kind of the way root was an intermediate team) and it would be awesome for him if he did ^^ Good luck Destiny and I hope you can find a group of players that suit you  | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On June 23 2011 11:06 southmc wrote: No need to PM you, I'll say my piece and be done with it as well. "the notion that it is okay to use racist or homophobic remarks because they are just words comes from a position of middle class white privilege." Entertainers such as Jay-Z, Tupac, Eminem, Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy and the list goes on and on, certainly do not hail from middle class white privilege. They use the word to entertain their audience, so has destiny. If it's your opinion he can't use it because he's white, well, welcome to racial discrimination friend. That's really all I have to say on the matter.. Actually, Jay-Z, Tupac, Chris Rock and Eddie Murphy used those words in the context of a story or narrative to say something about compelling about society, culture or race. Destiny uses these words to because he thinks it makes him sound like a badass and he likes to vent. He has, and likely never will, understand why his use of the words nigger or faggot are offensive, nor will he ever use them in an interesting way. I have to agree with Fluffdaddy. Destiny's laziness and abuse of these words does come from a position of middle class white privilege. P.S. Eninem hasn't used the word nigger or faggot to 'entertain' in at least ten years, when he was still unsigned to a label or producing anything noteworthy. And he had way more credibility in the black and hip hop community then than Destiny ever will. Destiny using the word 'nigger' is as laffable as a silver leaguer coming onto TL and pretending he has understands StarCraft 2. And even at the height of his popularity, venerated and controversial comics such as Richard Pryor chastised Eddie Murphy for his homophobic and racist jokes. | ||
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Gotmog
Serbia899 Posts
On June 23 2011 12:31 valdor4 wrote: it is funny how you point out someone's character that you really know nothing about. i'm assuming you have not watched his stream much, and even if you did, how can you judge someone's life off a few hours of streaming a video game? not only are you blindly assuming his personal life, but you give the vaguest examples that really don't show much. also your post is much more ignorant than anything ive heard on destiny's stream Don't know what he is like in RL. Don't know if his "character" is just a thing he came up with to get viewers. He is just a guy catering to mainstream people, average joe. No wonder he has so many fans. He doesn't need a team, he can't make money of pro play. He makes money from being what possy wants him to be. | ||
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AmatolHorror
Iceland6 Posts
On June 23 2011 12:42 r4pture wrote: Hahaha, I love Debo. Ho boy, sounds like someone whos never actually bothered to watch the stream. What truely annoys me are people who don't watch, and assume from the discussion that Destiny does nothing but toss "bad words" around. That is not the case what so ever. I've watched Steven for awhile and I've never heard him say "the n word" unless it was talking about this debate. His other language is sprinkled around but never in a "Howard Stern" kind of forcing way. He just says what he wants. Idra does the same thing except he DOES go out of his way to insult people, but because he uses "nice language" its ok despite the things he says actually being quite offense and pointed directly at certain people. ANYWAY, ON TOPIC. I'm happy Destinys off coL. I've never been a fan of the team, and Destiny makes plenty of money with his stream and doing his own thing. Destiny didn't need coL, coL needed Destiny. The only thing Destiny loses now (maybe?) is steady practice partners of high calibur, but he still has plenty of Master/GM level players to play with, and with Kiwi, SLush and Fayth on Reign, that option may very well be open to him. Destiny joining Reign over coL would be a big boost to their attenion and veiwership, and give Steven the practice partners he needs. Couldn't agree more, I have watched his stream a lot of hours and never heard him use the N word, but he doesn't refute using the word so I assume he does, I've just never actually heard him say it, maybe I missed something. or maybe it has been overplayed how much he uses that word, anybody 24/7 Destiny fan or a mod that can actually say that he uses that word all the time? not like it matters that much to me, just want to figure out how much validity is too this claim and how much a hype it really is, cause it seems like that in particulur stirs a lot of things up on these forums. and agree very much with the comments on Idra, Idra uses personal attack against people and tries to insult people, when he knows the people and has met them, much crueler practice, i heard him on NASL casting describing how he met cruncher, it went somewhere along the lines "some fat kid gets into the elevator and says hi idra, I don't know who it is, then later somebody told me it was cruncher" kinda disrespectful, saying shit like that about a fellow pro player, on a major tournament setting , while casting, but to each his own I guess. I actually don't think Destiny would of gone that far in that situation. | ||
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