On June 21 2011 01:19 Zaros wrote:
Why does every blizzard map have a super hard to take 3rd base >.>
Why does every blizzard map have a super hard to take 3rd base >.>
Yes, 3 of the 4 maps presented seem very difficult to take a third.

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Unhallowed
Canada171 Posts
On June 21 2011 01:19 Zaros wrote: Why does every blizzard map have a super hard to take 3rd base >.> Yes, 3 of the 4 maps presented seem very difficult to take a third. ![]() | ||
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Wren
United States745 Posts
On June 21 2011 05:47 Ribbon wrote: Show nested quote + On June 21 2011 05:44 Wren wrote: On June 21 2011 05:30 Ribbon wrote: What's with all the "no third base" complaints? Shattered Sky has an easy third. Macro Map advertises that is has an easy third. Kerrigan's wrath has the easiest, safest third I've ever seen. Map 1 in the only map that has a rock-blocked 3rd. Speaking of rocks, there is not a single blue base on any of these maps with rocks on it, and only one where there are rocks on your (gold) third. All the other rocks are used to block attack paths, which is a much better use. Map 4 has an easy third, and there's not so much as a pebble on it. The third on Kerrigan's Wrath laid wide open as soon as the rocks are gone, and features a Lost Temple-esque highground. Standard 3rd timing for Zerg: Around when Mutas come out. Show nested quote + Shattered Sky is laid out essentially like Shattered Temple, except the third is along the primary attack paths except in cross positions (though cross positions actually provides a nice available 6 bases). Shatted Sky is basically Metalopolis with rocks placed to alleviate close spawn woes. Metal has a really easy third. So will Shatnered Sky. The 3rd timing for zerg can vary so widely that it's fairly ridiculous to claim that there even IS a standard. The rocks on shattered sky don't do much to counter close position woes. There is still that primary path through the 3rd base. | ||
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CecilSunkure
United States2829 Posts
On June 21 2011 05:54 Ribbon wrote: Show nested quote + On June 21 2011 05:53 CecilSunkure wrote: Does every map need to have fuckin high yields between bases? Does every fuckin map need destructible rocks ._. Map 4 doesn't have rocks, even on the gold 4ths. Are people in this thread even looking at the maps? Really. Do people even read posts? Really. Dude it's called exaggeration. 3/4 can be called every, and I had a separate qualm with map 4 you didn't address. | ||
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
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SillyPrincess
Canada115 Posts
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Moralez
Portugal1857 Posts
On June 21 2011 05:58 Mithriel wrote: Nice looking maps, but I was really hoping for belshirs beach. That's such a pretty map! Not only beach but all the others, fortress is also a really nice map and well designed crevasse etc ![]() | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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najreteip
Belgium4158 Posts
I'm curious how it'll play | ||
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nitdkim
1264 Posts
Kerrigan's Wrath is TvZ nightmare for zerg in vertical positions... no position imbalance my ass. blizz loves airspace behind bases so much... why??? | ||
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IIIOmegaIII
Sweden319 Posts
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
On June 21 2011 04:08 Aggnog wrote: Maps like this are the reason most major tournaments use their own map pool :/ | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
Take Backwater Gulch as an example. Everyone hates it because it is not Metalopolis. But then again, amazing games were seen on NASL. Take Typhon Peaks compared to Xel'Naga Caverns. Despite each quarter of TP being essentially the same as XNC, people think TP is a bad map - and when I propose a discussion about it, their best argument would be "it is ugly". Slag Pits is regarded as a bad map and I won't deny it - its not like blizz makes the best maps either, but still. Look at this thread. People just have baseless hatred through Blizz and their maps. They don't analize anything at all. They just look at something and say "huh this is bad". They just say "LOL ROCKS R BAD BLIZZ U SUCK LOLOLO" or "OMG RUSH MAP SUCKZZZZ STOP DIS BLIZZ" when the "Rush" map has basically the easiest third ever and a very easily defended natural THANKS to these rocks. They look at the snow maps and say "LOL WHERE YOU GET THIRD" "LOL CLOSE POS IMBA" when there are rocks preventing the closest positions and when there are four bases - and guess what, a third base CAN BE A MAIN BASE. People look at the huge map that is supposed to be used for macro and say "DIS MAP GOOD MACRO MAP GOOD" when the map has TURTLE written over its face, with one area defending all(at least TDA has 2 ramps), in which it is CLEAR that zerg will have a very hard time against turtling opponents(Deathball anyone?) yet people like the HURRR MACRO MAP. Honestly this biased bullshit is ridiculous. And sorry for the rant. | ||
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Moralez
Portugal1857 Posts
On June 21 2011 06:07 darkscream wrote: Show nested quote + On June 21 2011 04:08 Aggnog wrote: Maps like this are the reason most major tournaments use their own map pool :/ Yep. | ||
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Jermstuddog
United States2231 Posts
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phrenetiC
Switzerland224 Posts
On June 21 2011 06:00 Sanguinarius wrote: Exactly. In my oppinion people are freaking out too much right now, even before they could even give them a shot ingame...We will have to see how these maps pan out. Its hard to make too many judgements w/o playing on it. What I personally dislike is the fact that blizzard makes maps based on categories like rush, normal and macro. Good maps like Metalopolis (ignoring the close spawn issue) are so popular because they allow multiple styles of play... so why not focusing on making more good maps instead of making maps that each favores another playstyle? ;-/ | ||
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_zEK
Sweden63 Posts
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viii
United States266 Posts
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
thats what i like to see | ||
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Barett
Canada454 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
(Hint: Most people are unhappy) | ||
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