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IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
June 17 2011 00:07 GMT
#621
Let's see how many times people will continue to make the awful Reign.Rain joke. We're on page 31, let's keep it up.

Seems like there is a lot of inner-team acrimony at the moment. That is understandable but it doesn't seem like everyone is on board with the news if you know what I mean...
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
.Mthex-
Profile Joined May 2011
United States168 Posts
June 17 2011 00:19 GMT
#622
This is absolutely amazing news, and I am incredibly incredibly excited. I only have one question...

Where can I buy a team reign T-shirt? PLEEASSSEEEEE
"If you tricked him, then he is tricked" - Artosis
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 00:56:07
June 17 2011 00:53 GMT
#623
On June 17 2011 08:58 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 07:50 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On June 15 2011 11:44 Mordiford wrote:
On June 15 2011 11:39 Spades wrote:
On June 15 2011 11:36 Mordiford wrote:
On June 15 2011 11:35 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
On June 15 2011 11:34 ROOTFayth wrote:
On June 15 2011 11:20 sicarii wrote:
Damn i was hoping Kiwi would go for a European team as the NA teams are so much weaker maybe the two open spots will be filled with respectable players but I'm skeptical. And why is kiwikaki not the captain? by far the best player in the roster, i get that Spades is supposed to be VT's top guy, but i mean its Kiwikaki, just the way he looks at the game can help the whole team when he is in a position to lead.

you really don't know kiwikaki's personality lol, no way he would even come close to wanting to be the team captain


FAYTH FOR CAPTAIN!


I second that!

Poor Spades, already getting voted out of office.

ill trade places with fayth if i get his bank account


lol

Well played.


I don't get it.. What's the reference to Fayth and unlimited money or w/e? If he has hundreds of millions he should start his own SC2 franchise >>


Where are you seeing "hundreds of millions" or "unlimited money." All I saw was Spades suggesting that Fayth has more money than him... that doesn't mean Fayth is rich.

Regardless, I don't see the problem with Spades being the captain... he seems like he'd be a good captain.


Saw it somewhere else: "Fayth has unlimited money" --> that's what was what was said, so that in conjunction with the allusions to the same thing here in this thread make me curious...


On June 17 2011 09:07 IPA wrote:
Let's see how many times people will continue to make the awful Reign.Rain joke. We're on page 31, let's keep it up.


Better yet: let's see how many times somebody has the presence of mind after making said lame Reign.Rain joke to actually look back and verify if it's already been made, then retrospectively apologize for repeating it :D

So far count's at one: me
Qwix
Profile Joined October 2010
531 Posts
June 17 2011 00:54 GMT
#624
Good luck towards the team, PhoeNix is a beast!
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
June 17 2011 00:55 GMT
#625
On June 17 2011 08:58 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 07:50 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On June 15 2011 11:44 Mordiford wrote:
On June 15 2011 11:39 Spades wrote:
On June 15 2011 11:36 Mordiford wrote:
On June 15 2011 11:35 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
On June 15 2011 11:34 ROOTFayth wrote:
On June 15 2011 11:20 sicarii wrote:
Damn i was hoping Kiwi would go for a European team as the NA teams are so much weaker maybe the two open spots will be filled with respectable players but I'm skeptical. And why is kiwikaki not the captain? by far the best player in the roster, i get that Spades is supposed to be VT's top guy, but i mean its Kiwikaki, just the way he looks at the game can help the whole team when he is in a position to lead.

you really don't know kiwikaki's personality lol, no way he would even come close to wanting to be the team captain


FAYTH FOR CAPTAIN!


I second that!

Poor Spades, already getting voted out of office.

ill trade places with fayth if i get his bank account


lol

Well played.


I don't get it.. What's the reference to Fayth and unlimited money or w/e? If he has hundreds of millions he should start his own SC2 franchise >>


Where are you seeing "hundreds of millions" or "unlimited money." All I saw was Spades suggesting that Fayth has more money than him... that doesn't mean Fayth is rich.

Regardless, I don't see the problem with Spades being the captain... he seems like he'd be a good captain.


Fayth is rich, he played poker and has made millions off of it, but not hundreds of millions (or at least I don't think 100's of millions )
When I think of something else, something will go here
sharktopus.
Profile Joined April 2011
United States456 Posts
June 17 2011 01:26 GMT
#626
Can you guys make it a team rule for Kiwikaki to start a stream
Drium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States888 Posts
June 17 2011 02:15 GMT
#627
I agree with everyone saying you should recruit rain.
KwanROLLLLLLLED
-Doji-
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium127 Posts
June 17 2011 03:29 GMT
#628
I don't want to be a pure hater and rain on these guys parade.
(unintentional pun was unintentional)

But although my last post was rather concise, most of what I have had to read in this thread rather feeds the fear of my predictions becoming reality than they do to diminish it.
I absolutely acknowledge how hard it is to find sponsors for anything, let alone a rather young and unproven branche such as e-sports. But given how hard it is to find funds and how we have heard no news of any large company being interested, I am led to believe that they are still going on their old resources. These resources - as PokeBunny already confirmed - were rather limited.
My fear is still that this is a major hype to attract publicity, filled with rather vague and empty statements on the new team and their 'pro-house'.

Let me elaborate:

- VT already has an existing team. They start this off and invest a ton of their money into getting new players and getting them to live in a pro house. This makes the existing team lose a lot of their funds if no new sponsors are acquired soon. In the best case they are left to be a B-team of sorts

- The "new style" of pro-house. What do they mean by this? Are they going to offer rigorous training regimens, are they opting to include other teams in the endeavour? What is this "new style" they are talking about.

- Further on the house: A lot of their new players have families/housing of their own, so I imagine they will not be permanent residents of the new pro-house. Who will come to live their? And how valid is the house as a training location if most of their talent is residing off-site?

- Management/players said that VT was going nowhere. How will this be different for the new team? No significant changes have been announced, so why will this new project not fail?

Overall I am left rather sceptical on the whole matter. Note that I might change my opinion when more information is released, but as it stands ... it seems to be a front to get people hyped and attract more fans to show off to potential investors.
I understand people being happy with any new team that forms, but I have a gut feeling that the 'old' VT core-team will be left to their own devices and soon after perish. Imo that is not a good way to treat the people that got them in the position to start this project in the first place.

Apart from that all: I hope I am proven wrong and I wish the players (both old and new) the best of luck in all their endeavours.


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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
June 17 2011 03:35 GMT
#629
Best of luck to these guys. I'm sure spades will get 10x better training with these monsters. Now all I need is a kiwikaki replay pack and I'll be all set.
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ene13
Profile Joined February 2011
50 Posts
June 17 2011 05:45 GMT
#630
wait y i see no bitter on team???
Strivers
Profile Joined November 2010
United States358 Posts
June 17 2011 05:56 GMT
#631
fayth lol
These little dudes really like the blue stuff..
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 17 2011 06:08 GMT
#632
On June 17 2011 12:29 [FSM]Doji wrote:
I don't want to be a pure hater and rain on these guys parade.
(unintentional pun was unintentional)

But although my last post was rather concise, most of what I have had to read in this thread rather feeds the fear of my predictions becoming reality than they do to diminish it.
I absolutely acknowledge how hard it is to find sponsors for anything, let alone a rather young and unproven branche such as e-sports. But given how hard it is to find funds and how we have heard no news of any large company being interested, I am led to believe that they are still going on their old resources. These resources - as PokeBunny already confirmed - were rather limited.
My fear is still that this is a major hype to attract publicity, filled with rather vague and empty statements on the new team and their 'pro-house'.

Let me elaborate:

- VT already has an existing team. They start this off and invest a ton of their money into getting new players and getting them to live in a pro house. This makes the existing team lose a lot of their funds if no new sponsors are acquired soon. In the best case they are left to be a B-team of sorts

- The "new style" of pro-house. What do they mean by this? Are they going to offer rigorous training regimens, are they opting to include other teams in the endeavour? What is this "new style" they are talking about.

- Further on the house: A lot of their new players have families/housing of their own, so I imagine they will not be permanent residents of the new pro-house. Who will come to live their? And how valid is the house as a training location if most of their talent is residing off-site?

- Management/players said that VT was going nowhere. How will this be different for the new team? No significant changes have been announced, so why will this new project not fail?

Overall I am left rather sceptical on the whole matter. Note that I might change my opinion when more information is released, but as it stands ... it seems to be a front to get people hyped and attract more fans to show off to potential investors.
I understand people being happy with any new team that forms, but I have a gut feeling that the 'old' VT core-team will be left to their own devices and soon after perish. Imo that is not a good way to treat the people that got them in the position to start this project in the first place.

Apart from that all: I hope I am proven wrong and I wish the players (both old and new) the best of luck in all their endeavours.





Well written, i agree
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Gattaca.usa
Profile Joined October 2010
131 Posts
June 17 2011 06:39 GMT
#633
On June 16 2011 16:00 VTPerfect wrote:
I guess most people don't know what I've done in Wc3.



And what was that? If you're so good, elaborate.

KiWiKaKi was a pro wc3 player and played on the best american wc3 team that competed in WC3L.

what "have you done"?

anyway, it's a good move for kiwi and slush. They can build the team around them.

what happened to VT Gaming's website? I can't even find their site that lists the "old" VT Gaming.

It may not have happened yet but I believe that VT gaming will disband. It is "the same" as before but honestly, the players, if they're smart will look for a new team.
striderxxx
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada443 Posts
June 17 2011 18:11 GMT
#634
i agree, the old VT team should just be disbanded. unfortunately, the old members never performed well, so they will have a very hard time getting picked up by other teams.
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
June 17 2011 19:10 GMT
#635
OMG Phoenix!!!!

So excited! I watch him stream so much, it's great to see him getting some positive press! He's never had that many stream viewers, considering he's top 10 in GM on NA and GM in Korea.

Can't wait to see him perform! Phoenix fighting!
Itzeddiieee
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)787 Posts
June 17 2011 21:29 GMT
#636
Another great terran to complete the lineup!
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 17 2011 22:43 GMT
#637
What about all the other VT players? Why are they not joining reign?
ThePrince
Profile Joined October 2010
Peru331 Posts
June 17 2011 23:04 GMT
#638
cant wait to see who the other players are
SK_MC, ST_Parting, STX_Bogus fighting!!! Colossi should shoot nukes and blink.
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 03:40:40
June 18 2011 03:40 GMT
#639
Just watched FXOpen Invitational Series #4 NA Qualifier

Kiwikaki vs Sixjax vibe.. Vibe absolutely demolished Kiwikaki, i was kinda suprised in the difference of control. Sure kiwi had solid micro, but vibe never lost control in the matches. It got me thinking when the last time was i saw kiwi in a great form.. IPL? Dunno but i hope he returns to it soon, Vibe is good but the discrepany between my expectation from kiwi and the actual performance was too big to validate all the discussion in this thread. That said, destiny seemed really poor in his performance aswell.. Hope both players will find more quality training in their respective new teams.
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Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
June 18 2011 03:44 GMT
#640
On June 18 2011 12:40 Loxley wrote:
Just watched FXOpen Invitational Series #4 NA Qualifier

Kiwikaki vs Sixjax vibe.. Vibe absolutely demolished Kiwikaki, i was kinda suprised in the difference of control. Sure kiwi had solid micro, but vibe never lost control in the matches. It got me thinking when the last time was i saw kiwi in a great form.. IPL? Dunno but i hope he returns to it soon, Vibe is good but the discrepany between my expectation from kiwi and the actual performance was too big to validate all the discussion in this thread. That said, destiny seemed really poor in his performance aswell.. Hope both players will find more quality training in their respective new teams.

Of course you can't judge players based on a single tournament, but certainly interesting results nevertheless. Another noteworthy one from the same tournament with regards to the whole Reign/VT thing was Azz taking out Spades and then losing to Pokebunny.
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