On June 13 2011 22:53 daRkfalleN wrote: I am disapoint from Boxer, he cheeze 2 games in row, because he is not sure, that can beat idrA in late game ...
You didn't actually watch Boxer back in the day, did you?
Three bunker rushes in a row. In the finals. This is (part of) why we worship The Emperor.
People watching and playing SC2 think that cheese is so terrible, but the fact is that it's a large part of the game, and always has been. If you can't deal with cheese, then you're playing greedy, and not taking the proper steps to defend yourself.
Lol this was exactly my thought. People are like "BOXER CHEESED HOW WACK." Uhm what? He is the best bunker rusher of all time, in Starcraft BW his cheeses and his extreme pressure builds made him what he is. And it's not his lack of mechanics or fear of IdrA in the late game, it's the fact that it's the kind of player he is. He will always try to exploit an early game weakness he sees in any player.
How is it cheese if Boxer can still win after it fails? If you followed him at all, you'd realize his main strategy in his entire career has been to keep constant pressure on the opponent so that his games become a low econ struggle. He realizes his micro is his strength so he tries to maximize its potential by minimizing the armies involved. It's both a short and long term strategy. If his opponent dies prematurely, whose fault is that?
What i consider a cheeze is just 5marine+all scv bunkerrush or some sort of a all in autowin, otherwise in such important games as 'finals' im pretty sure that everyone does whatever they need to do in order to win, i dont dislike people for doing standard bunkerrushes and some sort of hidden proxy/raxxes.
Altho i must say Idra is and allways will be my favourite player since he considers himself the best macro player alive, and that where the real skill shines imo ! also he has 6pooled like 3 times since sc2 came out.
On June 13 2011 21:58 Keula wrote: The people in this thread are rageing about a guy on the internet because they think he does not have the necessary fighting spirit for a video game.
You guys are even more pathetic than the player itself. Because no matter what he did, half of the people in this thread are even more BM.
Idra makes his living off of playing a video game and he quits so quickly and gives up easily what does that say about his character in-game and outside of the game? Also people are talking about how great boxer is who he was and still is, Idra should show some respect to Boxer instead of being BM which is why people are upset.
How come u people think it is your decision when he has to leave the game. He leaves when he feels he has lost, it was his decision and it will always be. Hes not playing for you, hes playing for himself.
Also the only thing i hear from people who met idra at mlg and incontrol etc is that idra in person is a nice guy ( see last incontrol interview for example )
What is BM? Is it BM if you leave the game not saying GG ? Wow that will sure hit boxer hard, changes his life completely. Its not like he didnt cheese 2 games to win, whats the "good game" in that?
Everyone ALWAYS GG's in tournaments. Idra doesn't against Boxer, THE most legendary player in the world. It's just childish and shows unsportsmanlike behavior. It's like a football player not shaking hands after a match or a MMA fighter not showing respect after a fight. People dislike BM and unsportsmanlike behavior, it's pretty obvious to everyone but Idra apologists.
idra doesn't gg in tourneys though. EVER. to expect him to do so just because he's playing boxer is not a rational expectation
On June 13 2011 21:58 Keula wrote: The people in this thread are rageing about a guy on the internet because they think he does not have the necessary fighting spirit for a video game.
You guys are even more pathetic than the player itself. Because no matter what he did, half of the people in this thread are even more BM.
Idra makes his living off of playing a video game and he quits so quickly and gives up easily what does that say about his character in-game and outside of the game? Also people are talking about how great boxer is who he was and still is, Idra should show some respect to Boxer instead of being BM which is why people are upset.
How come u people think it is your decision when he has to leave the game. He leaves when he feels he has lost, it was his decision and it will always be. Hes not playing for you, hes playing for himself.
Also the only thing i hear from people who met idra at mlg and incontrol etc is that idra in person is a nice guy ( see last incontrol interview for example )
What is BM? Is it BM if you leave the game not saying GG ? Wow that will sure hit boxer hard, changes his life completely. Its not like he didnt cheese 2 games to win, whats the "good game" in that?
Everyone ALWAYS GG's in tournaments. Idra doesn't against Boxer, THE most legendary player in the world. It's just childish and shows unsportsmanlike behavior. It's like a football player not shaking hands after a match or a MMA fighter not showing respect after a fight. People dislike BM and unsportsmanlike behavior, it's pretty obvious to everyone but Idra apologists.
idra doesn't gg in tourneys though. EVER. to expect him to do so just because he's playing boxer is not a rational expectation
On June 13 2011 21:58 Keula wrote: The people in this thread are rageing about a guy on the internet because they think he does not have the necessary fighting spirit for a video game.
You guys are even more pathetic than the player itself. Because no matter what he did, half of the people in this thread are even more BM.
Idra makes his living off of playing a video game and he quits so quickly and gives up easily what does that say about his character in-game and outside of the game? Also people are talking about how great boxer is who he was and still is, Idra should show some respect to Boxer instead of being BM which is why people are upset.
How come u people think it is your decision when he has to leave the game. He leaves when he feels he has lost, it was his decision and it will always be. Hes not playing for you, hes playing for himself.
Also the only thing i hear from people who met idra at mlg and incontrol etc is that idra in person is a nice guy ( see last incontrol interview for example )
What is BM? Is it BM if you leave the game not saying GG ? Wow that will sure hit boxer hard, changes his life completely. Its not like he didnt cheese 2 games to win, whats the "good game" in that?
Everyone ALWAYS GG's in tournaments. Idra doesn't against Boxer, THE most legendary player in the world. It's just childish and shows unsportsmanlike behavior. It's like a football player not shaking hands after a match or a MMA fighter not showing respect after a fight. People dislike BM and unsportsmanlike behavior, it's pretty obvious to everyone but Idra apologists.
idra doesn't gg in tourneys though. EVER. to expect him to do so just because he's playing boxer is not a rational expectation
IdrA never GGs? Do you watch his games?
should i rephrase to rarely? and after being bunker rushed would you really expect him to be in a mood to gg in either game?
On June 13 2011 21:58 Keula wrote: The people in this thread are rageing about a guy on the internet because they think he does not have the necessary fighting spirit for a video game.
You guys are even more pathetic than the player itself. Because no matter what he did, half of the people in this thread are even more BM.
Idra makes his living off of playing a video game and he quits so quickly and gives up easily what does that say about his character in-game and outside of the game? Also people are talking about how great boxer is who he was and still is, Idra should show some respect to Boxer instead of being BM which is why people are upset.
How come u people think it is your decision when he has to leave the game. He leaves when he feels he has lost, it was his decision and it will always be. Hes not playing for you, hes playing for himself.
Also the only thing i hear from people who met idra at mlg and incontrol etc is that idra in person is a nice guy ( see last incontrol interview for example )
What is BM? Is it BM if you leave the game not saying GG ? Wow that will sure hit boxer hard, changes his life completely. Its not like he didnt cheese 2 games to win, whats the "good game" in that?
Everyone ALWAYS GG's in tournaments. Idra doesn't against Boxer, THE most legendary player in the world. It's just childish and shows unsportsmanlike behavior. It's like a football player not shaking hands after a match or a MMA fighter not showing respect after a fight. People dislike BM and unsportsmanlike behavior, it's pretty obvious to everyone but Idra apologists.
idra doesn't gg in tourneys though. EVER. to expect him to do so just because he's playing boxer is not a rational expectation
IdrA never GGs? Do you watch his games?
should i rephrase to rarely? and after being bunker rushed would you really expect him to be in a mood to gg in either game?
If I were playing BoxeR, I would GG no matter what he did...
On June 13 2011 21:58 Keula wrote: The people in this thread are rageing about a guy on the internet because they think he does not have the necessary fighting spirit for a video game.
You guys are even more pathetic than the player itself. Because no matter what he did, half of the people in this thread are even more BM.
Idra makes his living off of playing a video game and he quits so quickly and gives up easily what does that say about his character in-game and outside of the game? Also people are talking about how great boxer is who he was and still is, Idra should show some respect to Boxer instead of being BM which is why people are upset.
How come u people think it is your decision when he has to leave the game. He leaves when he feels he has lost, it was his decision and it will always be. Hes not playing for you, hes playing for himself.
Also the only thing i hear from people who met idra at mlg and incontrol etc is that idra in person is a nice guy ( see last incontrol interview for example )
What is BM? Is it BM if you leave the game not saying GG ? Wow that will sure hit boxer hard, changes his life completely. Its not like he didnt cheese 2 games to win, whats the "good game" in that?
Everyone ALWAYS GG's in tournaments. Idra doesn't against Boxer, THE most legendary player in the world. It's just childish and shows unsportsmanlike behavior. It's like a football player not shaking hands after a match or a MMA fighter not showing respect after a fight. People dislike BM and unsportsmanlike behavior, it's pretty obvious to everyone but Idra apologists.
idra doesn't gg in tourneys though. EVER. to expect him to do so just because he's playing boxer is not a rational expectation
IdrA never GGs? Do you watch his games?
should i rephrase to rarely? and after being bunker rushed would you really expect him to be in a mood to gg in either game?
If I were playing BoxeR, I would GG no matter what he did...
On June 13 2011 21:58 Keula wrote: The people in this thread are rageing about a guy on the internet because they think he does not have the necessary fighting spirit for a video game.
You guys are even more pathetic than the player itself. Because no matter what he did, half of the people in this thread are even more BM.
Idra makes his living off of playing a video game and he quits so quickly and gives up easily what does that say about his character in-game and outside of the game? Also people are talking about how great boxer is who he was and still is, Idra should show some respect to Boxer instead of being BM which is why people are upset.
How come u people think it is your decision when he has to leave the game. He leaves when he feels he has lost, it was his decision and it will always be. Hes not playing for you, hes playing for himself.
Also the only thing i hear from people who met idra at mlg and incontrol etc is that idra in person is a nice guy ( see last incontrol interview for example )
What is BM? Is it BM if you leave the game not saying GG ? Wow that will sure hit boxer hard, changes his life completely. Its not like he didnt cheese 2 games to win, whats the "good game" in that?
Everyone ALWAYS GG's in tournaments. Idra doesn't against Boxer, THE most legendary player in the world. It's just childish and shows unsportsmanlike behavior. It's like a football player not shaking hands after a match or a MMA fighter not showing respect after a fight. People dislike BM and unsportsmanlike behavior, it's pretty obvious to everyone but Idra apologists.
idra doesn't gg in tourneys though. EVER. to expect him to do so just because he's playing boxer is not a rational expectation
IdrA never GGs? Do you watch his games?
should i rephrase to rarely? and after being bunker rushed would you really expect him to be in a mood to gg in either game?
If I were playing BoxeR, I would GG no matter what he did...
On June 13 2011 21:58 Keula wrote: The people in this thread are rageing about a guy on the internet because they think he does not have the necessary fighting spirit for a video game.
You guys are even more pathetic than the player itself. Because no matter what he did, half of the people in this thread are even more BM.
Idra makes his living off of playing a video game and he quits so quickly and gives up easily what does that say about his character in-game and outside of the game? Also people are talking about how great boxer is who he was and still is, Idra should show some respect to Boxer instead of being BM which is why people are upset.
How come u people think it is your decision when he has to leave the game. He leaves when he feels he has lost, it was his decision and it will always be. Hes not playing for you, hes playing for himself.
Also the only thing i hear from people who met idra at mlg and incontrol etc is that idra in person is a nice guy ( see last incontrol interview for example )
What is BM? Is it BM if you leave the game not saying GG ? Wow that will sure hit boxer hard, changes his life completely. Its not like he didnt cheese 2 games to win, whats the "good game" in that?
Everyone ALWAYS GG's in tournaments. Idra doesn't against Boxer, THE most legendary player in the world. It's just childish and shows unsportsmanlike behavior. It's like a football player not shaking hands after a match or a MMA fighter not showing respect after a fight. People dislike BM and unsportsmanlike behavior, it's pretty obvious to everyone but Idra apologists.
idra doesn't gg in tourneys though. EVER. to expect him to do so just because he's playing boxer is not a rational expectation
IdrA never GGs? Do you watch his games?
should i rephrase to rarely? and after being bunker rushed would you really expect him to be in a mood to gg in either game?
If I were playing BoxeR, I would GG no matter what he did...
my point still stands
He GG's to players he respects. Watch the TSL 2, he GG's to nOny even after he canceled his CC. How can you not GG to BOXER, I don't care how pissed you are. In sc1 you were a nothing, and now you play one of the most amazing players in a new game and you think you are too good to gg when he beats you? just makes me dislike him more, which I didn't think possible.
On June 13 2011 21:58 Keula wrote: The people in this thread are rageing about a guy on the internet because they think he does not have the necessary fighting spirit for a video game.
You guys are even more pathetic than the player itself. Because no matter what he did, half of the people in this thread are even more BM.
Idra makes his living off of playing a video game and he quits so quickly and gives up easily what does that say about his character in-game and outside of the game? Also people are talking about how great boxer is who he was and still is, Idra should show some respect to Boxer instead of being BM which is why people are upset.
How come u people think it is your decision when he has to leave the game. He leaves when he feels he has lost, it was his decision and it will always be. Hes not playing for you, hes playing for himself.
Also the only thing i hear from people who met idra at mlg and incontrol etc is that idra in person is a nice guy ( see last incontrol interview for example )
What is BM? Is it BM if you leave the game not saying GG ? Wow that will sure hit boxer hard, changes his life completely. Its not like he didnt cheese 2 games to win, whats the "good game" in that?
Everyone ALWAYS GG's in tournaments. Idra doesn't against Boxer, THE most legendary player in the world. It's just childish and shows unsportsmanlike behavior. It's like a football player not shaking hands after a match or a MMA fighter not showing respect after a fight. People dislike BM and unsportsmanlike behavior, it's pretty obvious to everyone but Idra apologists.
idra doesn't gg in tourneys though. EVER. to expect him to do so just because he's playing boxer is not a rational expectation
IdrA never GGs? Do you watch his games?
should i rephrase to rarely? and after being bunker rushed would you really expect him to be in a mood to gg in either game?
If I were playing BoxeR, I would GG no matter what he did...
my point still stands
Just to clarify, your point is that if you're angry you don't have to gg?
On June 13 2011 21:58 Keula wrote: The people in this thread are rageing about a guy on the internet because they think he does not have the necessary fighting spirit for a video game.
You guys are even more pathetic than the player itself. Because no matter what he did, half of the people in this thread are even more BM.
Idra makes his living off of playing a video game and he quits so quickly and gives up easily what does that say about his character in-game and outside of the game? Also people are talking about how great boxer is who he was and still is, Idra should show some respect to Boxer instead of being BM which is why people are upset.
How come u people think it is your decision when he has to leave the game. He leaves when he feels he has lost, it was his decision and it will always be. Hes not playing for you, hes playing for himself.
Also the only thing i hear from people who met idra at mlg and incontrol etc is that idra in person is a nice guy ( see last incontrol interview for example )
What is BM? Is it BM if you leave the game not saying GG ? Wow that will sure hit boxer hard, changes his life completely. Its not like he didnt cheese 2 games to win, whats the "good game" in that?
Everyone ALWAYS GG's in tournaments. Idra doesn't against Boxer, THE most legendary player in the world. It's just childish and shows unsportsmanlike behavior. It's like a football player not shaking hands after a match or a MMA fighter not showing respect after a fight. People dislike BM and unsportsmanlike behavior, it's pretty obvious to everyone but Idra apologists.
idra doesn't gg in tourneys though. EVER. to expect him to do so just because he's playing boxer is not a rational expectation
IdrA never GGs? Do you watch his games?
should i rephrase to rarely? and after being bunker rushed would you really expect him to be in a mood to gg in either game?
If I were playing BoxeR, I would GG no matter what he did...
my point still stands
Just to clarify, your point is that if you're angry you don't have to gg?
no my point is that to expect idra to gg just because he's playing boxer is an irrational expectation. especially after game 1
Idra makes his living off of playing a video game and he quits so quickly and gives up easily what does that say about his character in-game and outside of the game? Also people are talking about how great boxer is who he was and still is, Idra should show some respect to Boxer instead of being BM which is why people are upset.
How come u people think it is your decision when he has to leave the game. He leaves when he feels he has lost, it was his decision and it will always be. Hes not playing for you, hes playing for himself.
Also the only thing i hear from people who met idra at mlg and incontrol etc is that idra in person is a nice guy ( see last incontrol interview for example )
What is BM? Is it BM if you leave the game not saying GG ? Wow that will sure hit boxer hard, changes his life completely. Its not like he didnt cheese 2 games to win, whats the "good game" in that?
Everyone ALWAYS GG's in tournaments. Idra doesn't against Boxer, THE most legendary player in the world. It's just childish and shows unsportsmanlike behavior. It's like a football player not shaking hands after a match or a MMA fighter not showing respect after a fight. People dislike BM and unsportsmanlike behavior, it's pretty obvious to everyone but Idra apologists.
idra doesn't gg in tourneys though. EVER. to expect him to do so just because he's playing boxer is not a rational expectation
IdrA never GGs? Do you watch his games?
should i rephrase to rarely? and after being bunker rushed would you really expect him to be in a mood to gg in either game?
If I were playing BoxeR, I would GG no matter what he did...
my point still stands
Just to clarify, your point is that if you're angry you don't have to gg?
no my point is that to expect idra to gg just because he's playing boxer is an irrational expectation. especially after game 1
I don't expect Idra to gg to anyone, doesn't mean that I have to have a positive opinion of him. He will always remain a solid player and never attain s-class status (I don't mean code-s) because his terribad attitude will never change.
Idra did GG to Sen and Zenio and then he didn't GG to Boxer?
1) He was pissed after game 1 (bunker rush) then he is childish, because even if you are pissed about your loss you can GG a legend like Boxer if you a mature guy.
2) He doesn't like Boxer for whatever reason (cheesy, gimmicke, not good in sc2, blabla.) then he is childish too because even if you don't like him as a player, you have to respect the man who basically is a hero in esport.
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