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i woulda loved to see a spine built out of range... marine in bunker have range 6, spine also 6 right? i'm very curious where the spine could be placed.
Spine has 7 range.
people need to drop the " OMG IDRA SO BM" shit, its stupid. he didnt gg because he didnt think they were good games, which is infact what gg means. stop blowing out of proportion.
Who cares if they're good games or not, you don't say good game to make your opponent feel good for winning a "good" game, you do it out of common courtesy because it's nice and much more satisfying for the winner. You watch any traditional sport, they always hi five each other at the end (make a line and do it). They don't say, hmm, was that a good game? Maybe not, let's not hi five this time.
Basically, it's a pride issue if you don't gg, which is pretty close to BM. It's not necessarily bad manner, but it's most definitely not good manner either.
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On June 14 2011 05:10 Samhax wrote:
Idra did GG to Sen and Zenio and then he didn't GG to Boxer?
1) He was pissed after game 1 (bunker rush) then he is childish, because even if you are pissed about your loss you can GG a legend like Boxer if you a mature guy.
2) He doesn't like Boxer for whatever reason (cheesy, gimmicke, not good in sc2, blabla.)
then he is childish too because even if you don't like him as a player, you have to respect the man who basically is a hero in esport.
Nah. Not really. You can gg anyone you want. If you're pissed, you're pissed. If you don't wanna gg someone when you're pissed, you just don't. It's not like you go over and break someones nose when you lose. At least Idra doesn't go around making gestures at players. And doesn't rub it into others face when he wins. Maybe he's not the best mannered, but sometime people make it a too big of an issue.
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Well they were dissapointing games after a bit of hype  IdrA shoulda won that last battle game 2 but I'm sure he'll roll the playoffs unless he goes against Naniwa, MC or Zenio. Don't like the Bo1 seeding though :/ IdrA is just gonna get bunker rushed. He needs to start going pool first against T holy crap.
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On June 14 2011 05:19 freestalker wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 05:10 Samhax wrote:
Idra did GG to Sen and Zenio and then he didn't GG to Boxer?
1) He was pissed after game 1 (bunker rush) then he is childish, because even if you are pissed about your loss you can GG a legend like Boxer if you a mature guy.
2) He doesn't like Boxer for whatever reason (cheesy, gimmicke, not good in sc2, blabla.)
then he is childish too because even if you don't like him as a player, you have to respect the man who basically is a hero in esport. Nah. Not really. You can gg anyone you want. If you're pissed, you're pissed. If you don't wanna gg someone when you're pissed, you just don't. It's not like you go over and break someones nose when you lose. At least Idra doesn't go around making gestures at players. And doesn't rub it into others face when he wins. Maybe he's not the best mannered, but sometime people make it a too big of an issue.
Missed the last few MLG's did you?
Anyhow, quite a poor series after all the hype for it. Play-offs might be more interesting because of it tho.
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On June 14 2011 05:22 Derez wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 05:19 freestalker wrote:On June 14 2011 05:10 Samhax wrote:
Idra did GG to Sen and Zenio and then he didn't GG to Boxer?
1) He was pissed after game 1 (bunker rush) then he is childish, because even if you are pissed about your loss you can GG a legend like Boxer if you a mature guy.
2) He doesn't like Boxer for whatever reason (cheesy, gimmicke, not good in sc2, blabla.)
then he is childish too because even if you don't like him as a player, you have to respect the man who basically is a hero in esport. Nah. Not really. You can gg anyone you want. If you're pissed, you're pissed. If you don't wanna gg someone when you're pissed, you just don't. It's not like you go over and break someones nose when you lose. At least Idra doesn't go around making gestures at players. And doesn't rub it into others face when he wins. Maybe he's not the best mannered, but sometime people make it a too big of an issue. Missed the last few MLG's did you? Anyhow, quite a poor series after all the hype for it. Play-offs might be more interesting because of it tho.
It was a reaction to MC's provocations.
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I'm so happy boxer won, not only because he is my favourite player of all time... But the gracking wont make me a fan no matter how good mechanics he develop.
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Guys.. IdrA doesn't care. He's said the GG is meaningless to him. He'd be just as likely to GG to a random noob than to Boxer, he doesn't give a shit.
No GG is not BM... saying "fuck you" or something is.
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On June 14 2011 05:30 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Guys.. IdrA doesn't care. He's said the GG is meaningless to him. He'd be just as likely to GG to a random noob than to Boxer, he doesn't give a shit.
No GG is not BM... saying "fuck you" or something is.
You know, I'd love to not have to say "hello" "good morning" or whatever. It's all so meaningless. But, sometimes, you have to accept that you do not determine social conventions, society does. If I'm a soccer player and I meet Pele or whatever, I say hello. It's just common sense.
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Just because Idra doesn''t say gg after every game he lost, it does not justfy anything. You are supposed to say gg after the game and that tradition still remains for reasons- showing each other respect as a player(sportsmanship). Do you want people to take esports seriously? How do you expect others to take it seriously when one of the well known players can't even display respect and discipline toward fellow players, tournaments, and most importantly viewers. Do you also think that other players who lose to whether cheese or whatever, they always feel like typing gg? It's just a pure form of respect to the community. You can yell and hit the wall afterward, but you have to do what you are supposed to do.
Ironically, Idra is only one I know that does not gg yet people like him or defend him for what he does. No wonder he continues doing it. Also, if the player cannont control his emotion and maintain his professionalism like that he will likely to have "not so" good tournaments results. Like quitting game early, cheesing 3 of 4 games he lost.
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first game idra didn't scout properly by clipping the xel naga watchtowers.
second game idra scouted properly but still got outplayed.
SC2 is a strategy game. idra was outclassed by better strategies both games. just because the game doesn't follow the path in which idra finds comfortable does not make it any less valid.
not gg-ing once you lose when you've been completely outplayed, specially the last game, i think shows idra's unwillingness to acknowledge losing to a better strategy, and with that mentality, regarding anything competitive, one can not expect to become the best or reach one's potential if you cannot overcome this massive hurdle.
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NO GG= NO SKILL @white-ra
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Idra never change, like MC Im not sure if his personnality is "real" or an act but its definetly much more interesting to watch than your average hollow progamer.
Saying that if Idra doesnt get outta this habit of early quitting the Koreans are really going to take advantage of his temperment.
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To people commenting on people's predictions and what not, you are aware that EU players see the matches a day later than you? It's just something to keep in mind, as it's a bit annoying to read anything on TL when there's been a big match on NASL, but the EU stream isn't done yet.
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Kids, IdrA didn't go with the no gg because he dislikes or doesn't respect BoxeR. He had his own reasons, whatever they were. He played Terran in BW and looked up to the Koreans, obviously he would have massive respect for the Emperor. He probably still needs a bit of time after that MLG loss.
On June 14 2011 05:52 Neino wrote:
To people commenting on people's predictions and what not, you are aware that EU players see the matches a day later than you? It's just something to keep in mind, as it's a bit annoying to read anything on TL when there's been a big match on NASL, but the EU stream isn't done yet.
Then don't read any NASL related threads, it's that simple. It obviously caters to NA and this thread was made before the NA cast anyways. You can just as easily find out what peoples' predictions are by asking in the live report thread.
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Where can I watch Boxer vs Idra now? Anyone?
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Damn it I wanted to see this game. Ive been following NASL on and off but for some reason I havent seen a single game of Boxer 
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On June 14 2011 06:10 Huggerz wrote:
Where can I watch Boxer vs Idra now? Anyone?
Sorry, seems only way is to get a NASL season pass. But hey its not really that expensive.
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I have managed to miss every single one of Boxer's games
FML
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On June 14 2011 06:05 Kantutan wrote:Kids, IdrA didn't go with the no gg because he dislikes or doesn't respect BoxeR. He had his own reasons, whatever they were. He played Terran in BW and looked up to the Koreans, obviously he would have massive respect for the Emperor. He probably still needs a bit of time after that MLG loss. Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 05:52 Neino wrote:
To people commenting on people's predictions and what not, you are aware that EU players see the matches a day later than you? It's just something to keep in mind, as it's a bit annoying to read anything on TL when there's been a big match on NASL, but the EU stream isn't done yet. Then don't read any NASL related threads, it's that simple. It obviously caters to NA and this thread was made before the NA cast anyways. You can just as easily find out what peoples' predictions are by asking in the live report thread.
I know, I was reading in it before the match, then later I was gonna read some more, but suddenly there's a spoiler there. It's not like I mind that too much, because it's obviously my own fault for the spoilers, but earlier in this thread (Which I read just now, since the game is done in EU and I wont get spoilers from the thread anymore ) there was this guy predicting that idra would win it easily, and a couple of people from the US is.. uh, mocking him I suppose? Not for the prediction, but just that he stated it after the game was played, it was not ment to be offensively towards NA people whatsoever, just asking people to keep it in mind, instead of "mocking" people who's respective stream has not yet been aired. 
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