NASL Final Showdown: The Emperor v The Gracken - Page 10

On June 13 2011 14:28 Enzyme wrote:


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On June 13 2011 14:46 Warrice wrote:
people need to drop the " OMG IDRA SO BM" shit, its stupid. he didnt gg because he didnt think they were good games, which is infact what gg means. stop blowing out of proportion.

On June 13 2011 14:42 IzieBoy wrote:


i woulda loved to see a spine built out of range... marine in bunker have range 6, spine also 6 right? i'm very curious where the spine could be placed.

On June 13 2011 14:46 NotAVulgarName wrote:
Bet if Boxer had a girlfriend she would look better than Idras

On June 13 2011 14:42 IzieBoy wrote:


i woulda loved to see a spine built out of range... marine in bunker have range 6, spine also 6 right? i'm very curious where the spine could be placed.

On June 13 2011 15:23 Waking wrote:
^^ Your being a fucking drama queen. Idra is good for esports because he is exciting to watchand controversial, Boxer is good for esports because of what you mentioned. Boring is bad for esports and that's it.

On June 13 2011 13:56 chadissilent wrote:
You really weren't around these guys in BW were you? Tasteless and Artosis were like the rest of x17 at the time -- skilled, BM trolls.

On June 13 2011 15:19 Reborn8u wrote:
A few thoughts I have on Idra vs boxer. I watched it with my brother who doesn't play sc2, but we've played 1000's of bw games together over the years. He never got exposed to the pro scene though. He couldn't understand why I got so excited after seeing boxer..... well being boxer. I saw the 2 racks and was like "classic boxer" with a big grin. After the match I showed my bro a bunch of highlights of boxer on you tube, "boxers immortal marines", "Greatest comeback ever boxer vs joyo", and various other boxer highlight videos'

My brother's jaw dropped at some of the plays in those videos, we had to go back and watch some parts 3 times.(if you never played broodwar or followed it's pro scene you NEED to go see these videos for yourself to understand the rest of this post) Boxer's friendly tank fire on a marine to kill a lurker, allied mines, the eraser trick, casting 8 lockdowns in 1 second. In my opinion boxer is the most creative player to ever touch a keyboard. He plays to win, and win he does. Boxer doesn't think outside the box, he enters another dimension where that box doesn't even exist. Boxer is the embodiment of fighting spirit. (and after watching MLG it's rubbed off on MMA who never backed down even after the HUGE blunder of killing his own 3rd with a misclick)

As for the NASL match, Boxer played brilliant. Well rehearsed, well executed, with contingencies built in to his plan. Idra on the other hand, went on tilt. I was reminded of a few years ago, watching live the TSL 2 BW, when idra accidentally canceled his CC at his nat when the scv was being harassed by nony's probe. Idra immediately GG'd. He could have tried to rebuild it, or throw down a bunch of factories and pressure/expand. But he just gave up, went on tilt, and the rest is history.
In the last few months I've seen this out of Idra over and over, vs Jinro at GSL, vs MMA at MLG, vs MC at MLG, and now vs Boxer. Idra is a phenomenal macro machine but he could learn a lot from Boxer about fighting spirit.

Boxer has had mandatory military service, physical and mental injuries, people telling him he's too old to be successful, and yet he fights on with all of his heart. It's truly inspiring. He is a legend, one of the founding fathers of esports, a bonjwa of the human spirit.

Idra will never be a shadow of what Boxer is and what he represents, unless he changes. Not giving a GG to the guy who literally made your profession possible shows a complete lack of class, respect, and decency to someone who's earned those things with blood sweat and tears. It also shows a lack of self respect. I have rooted for idra many times but never again, and if you love esports, you shouldn't either.

On June 13 2011 15:19 Reborn8u wrote:
A few thoughts I have on Idra vs boxer. I watched it with my brother who doesn't play sc2, but we've played 1000's of bw games together over the years. He never got exposed to the pro scene though. He couldn't understand why I got so excited after seeing boxer..... well being boxer. I saw the 2 racks and was like "classic boxer" with a big grin. After the match I showed my bro a bunch of highlights of boxer on you tube, "boxers immortal marines", "Greatest comeback ever boxer vs joyo", and various other boxer highlight videos'

My brother's jaw dropped at some of the plays in those videos, we had to go back and watch some parts 3 times.(if you never played broodwar or followed it's pro scene you NEED to go see these videos for yourself to understand the rest of this post) Boxer's friendly tank fire on a marine to kill a lurker, allied mines, the eraser trick, casting 8 lockdowns in 1 second. In my opinion boxer is the most creative player to ever touch a keyboard. He plays to win, and win he does. Boxer doesn't think outside the box, he enters another dimension where that box doesn't even exist. Boxer is the embodiment of fighting spirit. (and after watching MLG it's rubbed off on MMA who never backed down even after the HUGE blunder of killing his own 3rd with a misclick)

As for the NASL match, Boxer played brilliant. Well rehearsed, well executed, with contingencies built in to his plan. Idra on the other hand, went on tilt. I was reminded of a few years ago, watching live the TSL 2 BW, when idra accidentally canceled his CC at his nat when the scv was being harassed by nony's probe. Idra immediately GG'd. He could have tried to rebuild it, or throw down a bunch of factories and pressure/expand. But he just gave up, went on tilt, and the rest is history.
In the last few months I've seen this out of Idra over and over, vs Jinro at GSL, vs MMA at MLG, vs MC at MLG, and now vs Boxer. Idra is a phenomenal macro machine but he could learn a lot from Boxer about fighting spirit.

Boxer has had mandatory military service, physical and mental injuries, people telling him he's too old to be successful, and yet he fights on with all of his heart. It's truly inspiring. He is a legend, one of the founding fathers of esports, a bonjwa of the human spirit.

Idra will never be a shadow of what Boxer is and what he represents, unless he changes. Not giving a GG to the guy who literally made your profession possible shows a complete lack of class, respect, and decency to someone who's earned those things with blood sweat and tears. It also shows a lack of self respect. I have rooted for idra many times but never again, and if you love esports, you shouldn't either.

On June 13 2011 15:38 Halcyondaze wrote:
Boxer is playing cross server. Nobody get their hopes up, Grack is going to slaughter him

On June 13 2011 15:38 Halcyondaze wrote:
Boxer is playing cross server. Nobody get their hopes up, Grack is going to slaughter him

On June 13 2011 15:38 Halcyondaze wrote:
Boxer is playing cross server. Nobody get their hopes up, Grack is going to slaughter him

On June 13 2011 15:38 Halcyondaze wrote:
Boxer is playing cross server. Nobody get their hopes up, Grack is going to slaughter him