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On June 13 2011 20:44 twndomn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 20:30 oGs420 wrote:
Wait so, Boxer goes for two gimmick strategies that worked because he won the coinflip, and Idra doesn't GG? So what if it was Boxer, it was a completely mediocre play.
It's like how everyone got asspained when Idra didn't GG after a 5gate Nexus cancel all-in. Gimmick by your shallow knowledge of the game. If you are actually observant, you would have notice it was not gimmicky. Boxer's barrack location and follow-through are carefully planned and practiced. As matter of fact, Boxer's win over Sen has also shown that he "Targets" opponent, devised a plan to exploit.
exactly.
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On June 13 2011 18:05 Telcontar wrote:
The Emperor Strikes Grack!
genius
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On June 13 2011 20:54 Skyze wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 20:44 twndomn wrote:On June 13 2011 20:30 oGs420 wrote:
Wait so, Boxer goes for two gimmick strategies that worked because he won the coinflip, and Idra doesn't GG? So what if it was Boxer, it was a completely mediocre play.
It's like how everyone got asspained when Idra didn't GG after a 5gate Nexus cancel all-in. Gimmick by your shallow knowledge of the game. If you are actually observant, you would have notice it was not gimmicky. Boxer's barrack location and follow-through are carefully planned and practiced. As matter of fact, Boxer's win over Sen has also shown that he "Targets" opponent, devised a plan to exploit. exactly.
And imo, his proxy in game 2 is so nice that we'll see it more often on the ladder (the timings were good, so it's perfect :p)
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On June 13 2011 18:05 Telcontar wrote:
The Emperor Strikes Grack!
Oh wow, that is pretty epic.
Wheres a good photoshopper when you need a fake movie poster done...
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I didn't watch the games first-hand, but IdrA leaving... man... show at least some respect..
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On June 13 2011 15:19 Reborn8u wrote:
A few thoughts I have on Idra vs boxer. I watched it with my brother who doesn't play sc2, but we've played 1000's of bw games together over the years. He never got exposed to the pro scene though. He couldn't understand why I got so excited after seeing boxer..... well being boxer. I saw the 2 racks and was like "classic boxer" with a big grin. After the match I showed my bro a bunch of highlights of boxer on you tube, "boxers immortal marines", "Greatest comeback ever boxer vs joyo", and various other boxer highlight videos'
My brother's jaw dropped at some of the plays in those videos, we had to go back and watch some parts 3 times.(if you never played broodwar or followed it's pro scene you NEED to go see these videos for yourself to understand the rest of this post) Boxer's friendly tank fire on a marine to kill a lurker, allied mines, the eraser trick, casting 8 lockdowns in 1 second. In my opinion boxer is the most creative player to ever touch a keyboard. He plays to win, and win he does. Boxer doesn't think outside the box, he enters another dimension where that box doesn't even exist. Boxer is the embodiment of fighting spirit. (and after watching MLG it's rubbed off on MMA who never backed down even after the HUGE blunder of killing his own 3rd with a misclick)
As for the NASL match, Boxer played brilliant. Well rehearsed, well executed, with contingencies built in to his plan. Idra on the other hand, went on tilt. I was reminded of a few years ago, watching live the TSL 2 BW, when idra accidentally canceled his CC at his nat when the scv was being harassed by nony's probe. Idra immediately GG'd. He could have tried to rebuild it, or throw down a bunch of factories and pressure/expand. But he just gave up, went on tilt, and the rest is history.
In the last few months I've seen this out of Idra over and over, vs Jinro at GSL, vs MMA at MLG, vs MC at MLG, and now vs Boxer. Idra is a phenomenal macro machine but he could learn a lot from Boxer about fighting spirit.
Boxer has had mandatory military service, physical and mental injuries, people telling him he's too old to be successful, and yet he fights on with all of his heart. It's truly inspiring. He is a legend, one of the founding fathers of esports, a bonjwa of the human spirit.
Idra will never be a shadow of what Boxer is and what he represents, unless he changes. Not giving a GG to the guy who literally made your profession possible shows a complete lack of class, respect, and decency to someone who's earned those things with blood sweat and tears. It also shows a lack of self respect. I have rooted for idra many times but never again, and if you love esports, you shouldn't either.
what he said
idras mother should question her upbringing methods, cause of all the shit idra does, this is probably the worst bad manner yet. no boxer, no sc scene, and greg fields the superstar is just another socialy inadequate white boy that gets picked on in college.
you dont shit where you eat.
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On June 13 2011 20:44 twndomn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 20:30 oGs420 wrote:
Wait so, Boxer goes for two gimmick strategies that worked because he won the coinflip, and Idra doesn't GG? So what if it was Boxer, it was a completely mediocre play.
It's like how everyone got asspained when Idra didn't GG after a 5gate Nexus cancel all-in. Gimmick by your shallow knowledge of the game. If you are actually observant, you would have notice it was not gimmicky. Boxer's barrack location and follow-through are carefully planned and practiced. As matter of fact, Boxer's win over Sen has also shown that he "Targets" opponent, devised a plan to exploit.
So then i guess its a well planned gimmick? Regardless of how well executed, planned and hidden a cheese is, its still gimmicky.
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On June 13 2011 21:13 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 20:44 twndomn wrote:On June 13 2011 20:30 oGs420 wrote:
Wait so, Boxer goes for two gimmick strategies that worked because he won the coinflip, and Idra doesn't GG? So what if it was Boxer, it was a completely mediocre play.
It's like how everyone got asspained when Idra didn't GG after a 5gate Nexus cancel all-in. Gimmick by your shallow knowledge of the game. If you are actually observant, you would have notice it was not gimmicky. Boxer's barrack location and follow-through are carefully planned and practiced. As matter of fact, Boxer's win over Sen has also shown that he "Targets" opponent, devised a plan to exploit. So then i guess its a well planned gimmick? Regardless of how well executed, planned and hidden a cheese is, its still gimmicky.
A well planned targeted strategy in a strategy game is called a gimmick?
Why do people have to use negatives when someone wins with anything beside a straighforward long macro game. It's either cheese or all-in or gimmick or rush or timing attack all said like it's something horrible.
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It's funny how, no matter what game you play competitively, people are always looking for excuses when they, or their favorite player, lose a game. Please, if you call Boxer's strat "gimmicky" read this.
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dude thats the best gaming article i've ever read.
it's pretty much valid with any game that has a multiplayer. good shit bro
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The people in this thread are rageing about a guy on the internet because they think he does not have the necessary fighting spirit for a video game.
You guys are even more pathetic than the player itself. Because no matter what he did, half of the people in this thread are even more BM.
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On June 13 2011 21:58 Keula wrote:
The people in this thread are rageing about a guy on the internet because they think he does not have the necessary fighting spirit for a video game.
You guys are even more pathetic than the player itself. Because no matter what he did, half of the people in this thread are even more BM.
Idra makes his living off of playing a video game, he quits so quickly and gives up easily what does that say about his character in-game and outside of the game? Also people are talking about how great boxer is who he was and still is, Idra should show some respect to Boxer instead of being BM which is why people are upset.
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He has no respect for his opponents, so it's really good he lost even if he showed a great game for the second game. For the first game he acted quite stupidly, he sent not enough zerglings to break the contain and got outplayed by scvs repair micro.
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On June 13 2011 22:03 Kamikiri wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 21:58 Keula wrote:
The people in this thread are rageing about a guy on the internet because they think he does not have the necessary fighting spirit for a video game.
You guys are even more pathetic than the player itself. Because no matter what he did, half of the people in this thread are even more BM. Idra makes his living off of playing a video game and he quits so quickly and gives up easily what does that say about his character in-game and outside of the game? Also people are talking about how great boxer is who he was and still is, Idra should show some respect to Boxer instead of being BM which is why people are upset.
How come u people think it is your decision when he has to leave the game. He leaves when he feels he has lost, it was his decision and it will always be. Hes not playing for you, hes playing for himself.
Also the only thing i hear from people who met idra at mlg and incontrol etc is that idra in person is a nice guy ( see last incontrol interview for example )
What is BM? Is it BM if you leave the game not saying GG ? Wow that will sure hit boxer hard, changes his life completely. Its not like he didnt cheese 2 games to win, whats the "good game" in that?
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On June 13 2011 18:05 Telcontar wrote:
The Emperor Strikes Grack!
Joke of the month, right there, good work fella
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idra doesn't gg after cheese it's almost always been like that, if it's boxer or a random ladder scrub.
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Scrub mentality=brilliant article
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On June 13 2011 22:15 Bro_Stone wrote:
Scrub mentality=brilliant article
Procrastination all the way <3
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On June 13 2011 21:13 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 20:44 twndomn wrote:On June 13 2011 20:30 oGs420 wrote:
Wait so, Boxer goes for two gimmick strategies that worked because he won the coinflip, and Idra doesn't GG? So what if it was Boxer, it was a completely mediocre play.
It's like how everyone got asspained when Idra didn't GG after a 5gate Nexus cancel all-in. Gimmick by your shallow knowledge of the game. If you are actually observant, you would have notice it was not gimmicky. Boxer's barrack location and follow-through are carefully planned and practiced. As matter of fact, Boxer's win over Sen has also shown that he "Targets" opponent, devised a plan to exploit. So then i guess its a well planned gimmick? Regardless of how well executed, planned and hidden a cheese is, its still gimmicky.
Except Boxer does it literally almost every game, in every matchup, against any player, and always transitions easily into a macro game even when absolutely no damage is done.
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On June 13 2011 22:19 JKira wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 21:13 L3g3nd_ wrote:On June 13 2011 20:44 twndomn wrote:On June 13 2011 20:30 oGs420 wrote:
Wait so, Boxer goes for two gimmick strategies that worked because he won the coinflip, and Idra doesn't GG? So what if it was Boxer, it was a completely mediocre play.
It's like how everyone got asspained when Idra didn't GG after a 5gate Nexus cancel all-in. Gimmick by your shallow knowledge of the game. If you are actually observant, you would have notice it was not gimmicky. Boxer's barrack location and follow-through are carefully planned and practiced. As matter of fact, Boxer's win over Sen has also shown that he "Targets" opponent, devised a plan to exploit. So then i guess its a well planned gimmick? Regardless of how well executed, planned and hidden a cheese is, its still gimmicky. Except Boxer does it literally almost every game, in every matchup, against any player, and always transitions easily into a macro game even when absolutely no damage is done.
Can you link a replay please in which he cheesed a protoss, i would really love to see that.
He cheeses zergs, because there is no risk, thats all
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