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We need tasteless and artosis to get legally married. That is the only way they can take their game to the next level.
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On June 12 2011 15:08 pc_room_freak wrote:
I'm a big fan of tastosis, but does anybody else find tasteless slightly inexperienced as a caster?
I don't know about him being commentator in bw, but from the gsl's i noticed he's
1.) overly repetitive in diction- for example
"he's so SOLID", "he's playing so GOOD", "it's going to be so COOL". I don't understand why he can't use... more descriptive words whenever he's trying to add something to the cast. Not only that, he just constantly overuses these words, making him sound like a broken record sometimes. It's weird since he seems quite articulate in casual settings.
2.) cuts Artosis off too frequently, at the wrong times
-only to add "he's so GOOD"
Artosis is the commentator, let him get technical with his part, and cut him off when u have to (ie when something happens on the map).
3.) needs to be more PROFESSIONAL
-I'm not even talking about the eating and drinking during matches. i don't think this "relaxed mindset" during casting is so detrimental to the event,,, but..
- Please don't mention "sex" on-air again, or at least not say the word so downright. Esports is still largely unaccepted in society, even in korea (i'm a korean, so i know). If you don't act to the bare minimum on one of esports premier events, how do you expect people to start taking this sport seriously?
I know i might come off sounding too critical, but i realized Tastosis is and will most likely be the "voice" of starcraft 2 (for the foreigners, at least). Both casters are very likable, and i would like nothing more than the very best, since i'm one of those people who watches GSL's due to entertainment value i get from listening to you guys.
Thanks
Oh my god. He talks about people like you. Not in a good way.
.. What the fuck is some 4 post random person doing complaining about TASTELESS?. 90% of the 'inexperienced" or unprofessional stuff you mentioned is his HUMOR. I feel sorry for you if you can't grasp that.
For all of your talk about being 'articulate' it would be nice if you could even punctuate properly.
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so it seems that the general consensus is for tasteless to continue being awesome and accept the occasional hater
i hate haters! ...oh no, that makes me hater :o
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On June 12 2011 16:44 pc_room_freak wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 16:39 Phenny wrote:
Plz never change Tasteless you are a sexy devil and are doing everything awesome!
I could not disagree more with the professional thing (maybe the sex bit, I don't even remember it tbh) but if he becomes professional he will become boring and less funny, not a worthy sacrifice for anything. Never said they had to be professional to the point where they are boring. I like their lax style alot too. But there is a bare minimum standard. Otherwise casters can cast naked and they wouldn't need to fix it, because the community might think acting any more professional will make them "boring". =/
This is a horrible slippery slope argument, how haven't they met the bare minimum? I've heard Artosis cuss maybe two or three times on air. Tastless regularly uses the F bomb off air and yet you can't tell because he actually hasn't had a slip up that I know of. They are easily above average on casting standards.
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Watch his bw commentaries on gomtv classic, he had a very deep knowledge of the game. I just don't think he's had the time to become as expert in sc2.
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As long as hes not dropping F bombs is perfectly acceptable. He's already amazing
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On June 12 2011 16:46 HentaiPrime wrote:
so it seems that the general consensus is for tasteless to continue being awesome and accept the occasional hater
Yep and now the op is basically trolling with the last comment.
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i want more HYPE!
everytime artosis gets excited, and tasteless says something, the excitement is over.
the last two days, they were amazing, i hope they keep up like that, thats why i love em
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Why's it such a problem for people if the casters say something like sex. Really, who cares?
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On June 12 2011 16:28 pc_room_freak wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 16:08 Baarn wrote:On June 12 2011 15:46 Melange wrote:On June 12 2011 15:42 Mordiford wrote:On June 12 2011 15:38 Melange wrote:On June 12 2011 15:34 emecee wrote:On June 12 2011 15:29 Melange wrote:On June 12 2011 15:13 wester25 wrote:
btw if youre offended by the word sex..... you probably shouldnt be awake watching gsl at the time its on anyway. That's exactly the point. If we want e-sports to grow it needs to be accessible and appropriate for EVERYONE. Why exclude someone because they're too young to be comfortable without publicly talking about sex? They damn well might be old enough to enjoy Starcraft, and that's what matters. That being said, Tastosis is pretty awesome, and they're a great duo to watch/listen to games with, but I agree with the OP saying that Tasteless shouldn't be interrupting Artosis so much during pivotal points. When Artosis is trying to explain a technical aspect of the game, Tasteless should wait till he's done before butting in with a random comment. I understand that this is part of how they work, Tasteless with his energy/jokes and Artosis with his analytical commentary. Just because they've been doing this for years doesn't mean that there aren't things to improve upon. I'm sure people will like Tastosis just fine if Tasteless holds out a bit and lets Artosis finish before joining in. what if theres a japanese person whos offended by the use of the word "nuke"? what if theres someone whos offended by the word "snipe"? Nice use of Destiny's retorts against this. We aren't talking about Destiny, we're talking about Tasteless. Destiny doesn't give a fuck about what the public thinks of him OR of e-sports in general, he's just doing his thing and making a living off of it. Tasteless is completely different, he actually cares about spreading e-sports and expanding it as far as possible. These criticisms are meant to nitpick everything he does, they're meant to help him do what HE wants to do. That's why they're called "constructive". You can troll all you want, but I'm sure Tasteless wants to be able to globalize Starcraft as much as possible. Yeah, but I don't think he wants to neuter or censor the content being delivered to the target audience when it's age appropriate to the content of the game and content being portrayed on screen. Refer to my earlier post on the matter. It's essentially like removing the language from Gears of War and handing it to your son and saying, "It's okay for you to play now, don't mind the blood, gore and violence". It comes down to the standards parents set for their children, if they have specificity in their restrictions regardless of age appropriation, that's a non-issue to me and I don't think it's something that should be considered with the "growth of eSports" argument. The target audience is age restrictive regardless and the content of the cast is age appropriate. Without highlighting any clear gains, it's really weird for me to accept someone saying, "This would grow the scene and be worth the cuts made". I'd essentially be losing a laugh at a joke for a number that we have absolutely no idea about, it could be minuscule and even so, it's an audience I don't care about because it's an audience of parents who are fine with exposing their children to violence and gore but have an aversion to the word "sex". I would agree if SC2 had any sexual implications in it. But there's not a hint of it in there, so that's why I don't see talking about sex as appropriate. I agree that SC2 itself is age-restrictive because of the violence, but I feel like that's in a different category. You could be right though, I really don't know how this affects children in the age group we're talking about. One joke offended you this much when there are pg 13 movies parents take their 7 years olds to see that have way more sex jokes than a tastosis cast. Are you serious? ITS NOT about kids needing protection or w/e bull****, they find their ways to do things they're not allowed to do. But the" fact" that a commentator IS mentioning sex in a show, which OBVIOUSLY has viewers underage is the problem here. If you say sex in MANSWERS, the public will view this as normal. Kids will watch it, boohoo, who cares, what you going to do about that. If you say sex in spongebob squarepants, that is a problem. NOT because the kids watching are innocent lamb-childs and are in danger of unfiltered content etc etc, but because in the public's eye, a show that contains that type of demographic SHOULDNT say that word. In the end, it's only bad for the show's image. Unless you can justify that saying sex in both shows carry the same meaning from the public's point of view.
This pretty much reminds me about that south park episode with butters having a shuriken stuck in his face and no one cares because cartmen appeared naked on TV.
The game shows people(and aliens) killing each other with pretty much every conventional method(and also is rated PG-13) and everyone is so bobbed downed with 1 caster mentioning sex because 8 year old kids might learn bad things watch it.
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I read the OP and just knew this thread was going to be the bomb!
Haters gunna hate
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am i the only one who noticed that he said he was korean so he would know what esports is like over there, and his profile says he is from the states... lol
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On June 12 2011 16:28 pc_room_freak wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 16:08 Baarn wrote:On June 12 2011 15:46 Melange wrote:On June 12 2011 15:42 Mordiford wrote:On June 12 2011 15:38 Melange wrote:On June 12 2011 15:34 emecee wrote:On June 12 2011 15:29 Melange wrote:On June 12 2011 15:13 wester25 wrote:
btw if youre offended by the word sex..... you probably shouldnt be awake watching gsl at the time its on anyway. That's exactly the point. If we want e-sports to grow it needs to be accessible and appropriate for EVERYONE. Why exclude someone because they're too young to be comfortable without publicly talking about sex? They damn well might be old enough to enjoy Starcraft, and that's what matters. That being said, Tastosis is pretty awesome, and they're a great duo to watch/listen to games with, but I agree with the OP saying that Tasteless shouldn't be interrupting Artosis so much during pivotal points. When Artosis is trying to explain a technical aspect of the game, Tasteless should wait till he's done before butting in with a random comment. I understand that this is part of how they work, Tasteless with his energy/jokes and Artosis with his analytical commentary. Just because they've been doing this for years doesn't mean that there aren't things to improve upon. I'm sure people will like Tastosis just fine if Tasteless holds out a bit and lets Artosis finish before joining in. what if theres a japanese person whos offended by the use of the word "nuke"? what if theres someone whos offended by the word "snipe"? Nice use of Destiny's retorts against this. We aren't talking about Destiny, we're talking about Tasteless. Destiny doesn't give a fuck about what the public thinks of him OR of e-sports in general, he's just doing his thing and making a living off of it. Tasteless is completely different, he actually cares about spreading e-sports and expanding it as far as possible. These criticisms are meant to nitpick everything he does, they're meant to help him do what HE wants to do. That's why they're called "constructive". You can troll all you want, but I'm sure Tasteless wants to be able to globalize Starcraft as much as possible. Yeah, but I don't think he wants to neuter or censor the content being delivered to the target audience when it's age appropriate to the content of the game and content being portrayed on screen. Refer to my earlier post on the matter. It's essentially like removing the language from Gears of War and handing it to your son and saying, "It's okay for you to play now, don't mind the blood, gore and violence". It comes down to the standards parents set for their children, if they have specificity in their restrictions regardless of age appropriation, that's a non-issue to me and I don't think it's something that should be considered with the "growth of eSports" argument. The target audience is age restrictive regardless and the content of the cast is age appropriate. Without highlighting any clear gains, it's really weird for me to accept someone saying, "This would grow the scene and be worth the cuts made". I'd essentially be losing a laugh at a joke for a number that we have absolutely no idea about, it could be minuscule and even so, it's an audience I don't care about because it's an audience of parents who are fine with exposing their children to violence and gore but have an aversion to the word "sex". I would agree if SC2 had any sexual implications in it. But there's not a hint of it in there, so that's why I don't see talking about sex as appropriate. I agree that SC2 itself is age-restrictive because of the violence, but I feel like that's in a different category. You could be right though, I really don't know how this affects children in the age group we're talking about. One joke offended you this much when there are pg 13 movies parents take their 7 years olds to see that have way more sex jokes than a tastosis cast. Are you serious? ITS NOT about kids needing protection or w/e bull****, they find their ways to do things they're not allowed to do. But the" fact" that a commentator IS mentioning sex in a show, which OBVIOUSLY has viewers underage is the problem here. If you say sex in MANSWERS, the public will view this as normal. Kids will watch it, boohoo, who cares, what you going to do about that. If you say sex in spongebob squarepants, that is a problem. NOT because the kids watching are innocent lamb-childs and are in danger of unfiltered content etc etc, but because in the public's eye, a show that contains that type of demographic SHOULDNT say that word. In the end, it's only bad for the show's image. Unless you can justify that saying sex in both shows carry the same meaning from the public's point of view.
This isn't fucking spongebob squarepants. And in no way should we be "required" to compare the GSL (which airs at fucking 2-4 am for most people) to a kids show. Tasteless can say whatever the fuck they want as long as they keep it 'classy' in general. I don't know what kind of worthless sheltered life you've lived, but saying 'sex' ONCE in a cast and THEN apologizing / joking about it is FINE.
Don't make a terrible thread on TL, especially if you just want to complain about one little thing.
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On June 12 2011 15:22 hmunkey wrote:
Disagree with everything completely except maybe the sex thing. I can see GSL as being a family show, so talking about sex and using vulgarities is probably not the best idea. Also, while a stronger diction couldn't hurt, I don't really mind Tasteless being Tasteless -- that's what makes their casting duo so good.
GSL is a family show? Your whole family sits down and watches the GSL together???
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You can watch units murder each other but can't mention sex?
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On June 12 2011 16:54 Zyzxx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 16:28 pc_room_freak wrote:On June 12 2011 16:08 Baarn wrote:On June 12 2011 15:46 Melange wrote:On June 12 2011 15:42 Mordiford wrote:On June 12 2011 15:38 Melange wrote:On June 12 2011 15:34 emecee wrote:On June 12 2011 15:29 Melange wrote:On June 12 2011 15:13 wester25 wrote:
btw if youre offended by the word sex..... you probably shouldnt be awake watching gsl at the time its on anyway. That's exactly the point. If we want e-sports to grow it needs to be accessible and appropriate for EVERYONE. Why exclude someone because they're too young to be comfortable without publicly talking about sex? They damn well might be old enough to enjoy Starcraft, and that's what matters. That being said, Tastosis is pretty awesome, and they're a great duo to watch/listen to games with, but I agree with the OP saying that Tasteless shouldn't be interrupting Artosis so much during pivotal points. When Artosis is trying to explain a technical aspect of the game, Tasteless should wait till he's done before butting in with a random comment. I understand that this is part of how they work, Tasteless with his energy/jokes and Artosis with his analytical commentary. Just because they've been doing this for years doesn't mean that there aren't things to improve upon. I'm sure people will like Tastosis just fine if Tasteless holds out a bit and lets Artosis finish before joining in. what if theres a japanese person whos offended by the use of the word "nuke"? what if theres someone whos offended by the word "snipe"? Nice use of Destiny's retorts against this. We aren't talking about Destiny, we're talking about Tasteless. Destiny doesn't give a fuck about what the public thinks of him OR of e-sports in general, he's just doing his thing and making a living off of it. Tasteless is completely different, he actually cares about spreading e-sports and expanding it as far as possible. These criticisms are meant to nitpick everything he does, they're meant to help him do what HE wants to do. That's why they're called "constructive". You can troll all you want, but I'm sure Tasteless wants to be able to globalize Starcraft as much as possible. Yeah, but I don't think he wants to neuter or censor the content being delivered to the target audience when it's age appropriate to the content of the game and content being portrayed on screen. Refer to my earlier post on the matter. It's essentially like removing the language from Gears of War and handing it to your son and saying, "It's okay for you to play now, don't mind the blood, gore and violence". It comes down to the standards parents set for their children, if they have specificity in their restrictions regardless of age appropriation, that's a non-issue to me and I don't think it's something that should be considered with the "growth of eSports" argument. The target audience is age restrictive regardless and the content of the cast is age appropriate. Without highlighting any clear gains, it's really weird for me to accept someone saying, "This would grow the scene and be worth the cuts made". I'd essentially be losing a laugh at a joke for a number that we have absolutely no idea about, it could be minuscule and even so, it's an audience I don't care about because it's an audience of parents who are fine with exposing their children to violence and gore but have an aversion to the word "sex". I would agree if SC2 had any sexual implications in it. But there's not a hint of it in there, so that's why I don't see talking about sex as appropriate. I agree that SC2 itself is age-restrictive because of the violence, but I feel like that's in a different category. You could be right though, I really don't know how this affects children in the age group we're talking about. One joke offended you this much when there are pg 13 movies parents take their 7 years olds to see that have way more sex jokes than a tastosis cast. Are you serious? ITS NOT about kids needing protection or w/e bull****, they find their ways to do things they're not allowed to do. But the" fact" that a commentator IS mentioning sex in a show, which OBVIOUSLY has viewers underage is the problem here. If you say sex in MANSWERS, the public will view this as normal. Kids will watch it, boohoo, who cares, what you going to do about that. If you say sex in spongebob squarepants, that is a problem. NOT because the kids watching are innocent lamb-childs and are in danger of unfiltered content etc etc, but because in the public's eye, a show that contains that type of demographic SHOULDNT say that word. In the end, it's only bad for the show's image. Unless you can justify that saying sex in both shows carry the same meaning from the public's point of view. This isn't fucking spongebob squarepants. And in no way should we be "required" to compare the GSL (which airs at fucking 2-4 am for most people) to a kids show. Tasteless can say whatever the fuck they want as long as they keep it 'classy' in general. I don't know what kind of worthless sheltered life you've lived, but saying 'sex' ONCE in a cast and THEN apologizing / joking about it is FINE. Don't make a terrible thread on TL, especially if you just want to complain about one little thing.
I agree with this man. Last thing we need is more people crying about kids being exposed to sex while ignoring the fact that this is a violent war game. I would rather have my kids see actual porn than 50 marines stim and run into a line of siege tanks.
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I dont mind my kids hearing the word sex a single time during the GSL cast, now what i have a problem with is them seeing a banshee fly in and do no damage - i dont want them to learn these habits when they play starcraft 2. Tastosis is doing an awesome job i love them!
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I agree with this man. Last thing we need is more people crying about kids being exposed to sex while ignoring the fact that this is a violent war game. I would rather have my kids see actual porn than 50 marines stim and run into a line of siege tanks.
Exactly. Porn and violence are different things. Some parents view one worse than the other, to varying degrees and conditions.
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Disagree with everything ..
Tasteless is awesome, and i love him as he is ... Stories, jokes, akward talking with Artosis <3
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