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FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 08:14:00
June 12 2011 08:12 GMT
#121
Being repetitive, maybe. Dont agree but havent thought about it either so maybe he is(or he isnt and that's why I havent thought about it).

In these last days(the week before and after MLG) yeah he has been cutting off Artosis very frequently but he also says sorry each time when it has been really intrusive. So dont agree here either. Other than these two weeks(well one and a half tops) he hasnt really done that to any extent.

Being more professional, NO. He is professional when it counts(the actual casting of what is going on) and otherwise is just a funny and interesting guy to listen to. Dont change it!

and the way he spoke about sex wasnt in any way bad. I think this is more about you and your view on when to talk about it and as such is very subjective and doesnt warrant as an argument for when to use it or not.
Do you really want chat rooms?
Sanchonator
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia490 Posts
June 12 2011 08:14 GMT
#122
On June 12 2011 17:02 Kamikiri wrote:
I dont mind my kids hearing the word sex a single time during the GSL cast, now what i have a problem with is them seeing a banshee fly in and do no damage - i dont want them to learn these habits when they play starcraft 2. Tastosis is doing an awesome job i love them!


i believe you just won the thread, congrats
MementoMori
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada419 Posts
June 12 2011 08:16 GMT
#123
I honestly can't believe you've got a problem with tasteless.. I guess everyone's got their own tastes. He's solidly my favorite caster for both BW and SC2.
for the world is hollow and I have touched the sky
Corvette
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States433 Posts
June 12 2011 08:16 GMT
#124
Humans are the only species that declares war on its own species

they are also the only species that gets offended/embarrassed/shy about sex

From a religious perspective: (im not actually religious so correct me if im wrong)

Werent Adam and Eve comfortable with their bodies being naked and unashamed until sin was introduced to the world?

I figure if people will stop being so secretive about sex people will be happier and get a long better.


As far as sex in SC2. Theres definitely some sexual tension/innuendo between the mercenary girl and Raynors friend (cant remember their names)

scatmango2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States408 Posts
June 12 2011 08:17 GMT
#125
First off, I absolutely love Tastosis. I give them a 10/10. However, I do have one criticism for Tasteless and that is I believe he lacks game knowledge. I get the feeling he hasn't been involved with the game since the beta. It seems like he just goes into work and after work he forgets about Starcraft and does other projects, which is fine, but I feel it impacts his casts in a negative way.
Dumboprime
Profile Joined March 2011
985 Posts
June 12 2011 08:21 GMT
#126
The only thing i can agree with is Tasteless sometime being too repetitive, he always have to say "*name* such a good player" and stuff like that, otherwise he's the best commentator in SC2 imo.
whaty0uwant
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand346 Posts
June 12 2011 08:22 GMT
#127
Dan is more analytical because that's his cast type, Nick is more the colour commentator in the archon. But by no means is he any less knowledgeable that Dan. Watch Nick's casts with Kelly,
Kelly was saying dumb shit all the time and Nick had to pick up the slack. The only reason he seems 'less experienced' is because he is paired with Dan (Dan likes to analyse deeply, where as from what I can see, this isn't Nicks style, but if he wanted to, he could, very easily).

They are the perfect Combination. Perfect casters both together, and individually.
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
June 12 2011 08:25 GMT
#128
You may not like the way he commentates but he is by no means inexperienced. Seeing as how he is the first real caster for starcraft 1 outside of korea.
Ktk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)753 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 08:27:15
June 12 2011 08:25 GMT
#129
I can see where you're coming from but I think you need to chill out.

SC1 broadcasts on ongamenet in korea have a rating of 12+... And you see mainstream-influenced 7th graders "swagged" out, generic image of a tween wearing halter tops and modeling pop stars to be hot and stuff. I think they can handle the -word- "sex", It's definitely not taboo at this age anymore I'd say.

@ a few posts above: Mira Han eh? Personally I glossed right over that.. Not a fan of the pink hair.

Tasteless keeps the show lively and entertaining for the viewers; he's the caster. The commentator - Artosis - analyses the game deeply. Together you have a deep analysis with humor a lot of people enjoy.
NastyMarine
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1252 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 08:39:01
June 12 2011 08:26 GMT
#130
To the OP:

I was at WCG 06 Monza, Italy when Tasteless first got off the ground (as far as commentating) casting Brood War games. His background in this community is unmatched. He exemplifies the excitement of our community in every match he takes part of; Whether its World Cyber Games, GSL, or MLG he brings what no one else can - intuitive and emotional insight.

What makes Artosis and Tasteless perfect is the play-off of the architectural/technical insight Artosis lays in and Tasteless' emphatic reformations of terminologies not known by casual viewers. I think Tasteless knows this better than most. There are viewers that Artosis cannot reach with his knowledge that Tasteless can with his wittiness - casting basic knowledge translations which is not always apparent for the audience.

If it sounds like his descriptiveness during games is vague, than it would be better to base it off of the youthfulness of the game itself and not his 'mundane' cut-offs as you so eloquently put it. He has a formula that attracts viewers with his extensional commentary that allows the audience to sync with his dialog. Whether formal or informal, his input on matches and players is easy to follow and very entertaining.

If you want to watch Tasteless' best commentated match it would be Game 1 (I believe) of Draco vs. Midas WCG 06. It was a great solo cast and it was absolutely amazing.

~TASTELESS FIGHTING!
Treatin' fools since '87
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
June 12 2011 08:27 GMT
#131
oh no, he said sex!
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
Mudfallz
Profile Joined January 2011
United States28 Posts
June 12 2011 08:28 GMT
#132
I think thats just his style. I mean it's hard to try and suggest things that go entirely against someones personality so they can change it.

I personally really love his style and think it's refreshing compared to the other casters that are often about. I believe that every caster brings a little bit different style and you just have to learn to deal with it.

I think these casters should be supported more than they are criticized because of the sheer number of threads and posts on TL there have been about different casters and how they could improve or how "BAD" they are. It's hard to get in front of a camera and say everything perfect to please everyone. I feel that Tasteless doesn't really care about approval because obviously he has been a caster for a long time meaning most people like him.
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
June 12 2011 08:28 GMT
#133
Tasteless is how old now? mid 20s? Some of his jokes are of a style which might fit to a 13 year old school kid and thats when it gets bad.

The "problem" is that the constant - almost daily - exposure drains the repertoire of really good funny jokes easily, but when they are gone they switch to the "repertoire of dumb jokes". Its not like Tastosis have a group of ghostwriters for their jokes who work day and night to provide them with new stuff. Nevertheless the "13 year old jokes" should stop, because they are too primitive for grown ups.

Sadly there are too many fanboys who basically start yelling - like those 13 year old schoolgirls when the currently most popular boy band is in town - whenever Tastosis are doing anything without any ability to judge or any will to look at life with a critical eye. The blatant "Tasteless is awesome whatever they do" sentiment of too many posters here is just stupid, because no human is awesome all the time.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 08:31:11
June 12 2011 08:30 GMT
#134
The only thing I dislike about Tasteless is how he deals with problems. Like if there's a delay/pause or the stream is going down, it's not the caster's position to draw attention to it. The most professional thing you can do is to move on, talk about something else, make it so that delay isn't an issue at all. I mean just look at how Tasteless and Day9 react when something goes wrong. Day9 does it totally right.
MenSol[ZerO]
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1134 Posts
June 12 2011 08:31 GMT
#135
i use to love tasteless but now i love artosis, hes just better in every way
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befek
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland413 Posts
June 12 2011 08:34 GMT
#136
If u cant see reapating issue that tasteless have u are just blind fanboy. I am fan of him in general but I can see some slight problems. Even more, I think tastosis slacks a liitle bit in hyping imo after watching MLG I can say this.
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NastyMarine
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1252 Posts
June 12 2011 08:40 GMT
#137
On June 12 2011 17:26 NastyMarine wrote:
To the OP:

I was at WCG 06 Monza, Italy when Tasteless first got off the ground (as far as commentating) casting Brood War games. His background in this community is unmatched. He exemplifies the excitement of our community in every match he takes part of; Whether its World Cyber Games, GSL, or MLG he brings what no one else can - intuitive and emotional insight.

What makes Artosis and Tasteless perfect is the play-off of the architectural/technical insight Artosis lays in and Tasteless' emphatic reformations of terminologies not known by casual viewers. I think Tasteless knows this better than most. There are viewers that Artosis cannot reach with his knowledge that Tasteless can with his wittiness - casting basic knowledge translations which is not always apparent for the audience.

If it sounds like his descriptiveness during games is vague, than it would be better to base it off of the youthfulness of the game itself and not his 'mundane' cut-offs as you so eloquently put it. He has a formula that attracts viewers with his extensional commentary that allows the audience to sync with his dialog. Whether formal or informal, his input on matches and players is easy to follow and very entertaining.

If you want to watch Tasteless' best commentated match it would be Game 1 (I believe) of Draco vs. Midas WCG 06. It was a great solo cast and it was absolutely amazing.

~TASTELESS FIGHTING!



Treatin' fools since '87
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
June 12 2011 08:44 GMT
#138
he is good how he is now, making it more serious would kill the authenticy of it.
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Aurdon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2007 Posts
June 12 2011 08:46 GMT
#139
Tasteless has said before he doesn't read forums much because people so negative.

You might have better luck PM or Emailing him if you are really concerned about his skills.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
June 12 2011 08:46 GMT
#140
On June 12 2011 17:40 NastyMarine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 17:26 NastyMarine wrote:
To the OP:

I was at WCG 06 Monza, Italy when Tasteless first got off the ground (as far as commentating) casting Brood War games. His background in this community is unmatched. He exemplifies the excitement of our community in every match he takes part of; Whether its World Cyber Games, GSL, or MLG he brings what no one else can - intuitive and emotional insight.

What makes Artosis and Tasteless perfect is the play-off of the architectural/technical insight Artosis lays in and Tasteless' emphatic reformations of terminologies not known by casual viewers. I think Tasteless knows this better than most. There are viewers that Artosis cannot reach with his knowledge that Tasteless can with his wittiness - casting basic knowledge translations which is not always apparent for the audience.

If it sounds like his descriptiveness during games is vague, than it would be better to base it off of the youthfulness of the game itself and not his 'mundane' cut-offs as you so eloquently put it. He has a formula that attracts viewers with his extensional commentary that allows the audience to sync with his dialog. Whether formal or informal, his input on matches and players is easy to follow and very entertaining.

If you want to watch Tasteless' best commentated match it would be Game 1 (I believe) of Draco vs. Midas WCG 06. It was a great solo cast and it was absolutely amazing.

~TASTELESS FIGHTING!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_qqxPysnL8

Further illustrates the fact that I dont think tasteless really plays SC2 anymore. He seems to be falling farther behind in terms of game knowledge, its almost like he doesnt really have any idea what is going on.
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