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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
June 22 2011 03:59 GMT
#461
I would love to see HD getting this gig so he doesn't have to work a day job anymore. GOWINSPIN!
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
wattabeast
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States957 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 04:09:10
June 22 2011 04:06 GMT
#462
On June 08 2011 20:34 Ruscour wrote:
TB won't do it, day[9] won't do it, Chill is just a bad fit.

Most likely options are Khaldor, MrBitter, Gretorp, Apollo, casters that don't have other major commitments (that we know of at least).


As an active viewer of Mr.Bitter he does have many commitments back in Atlanta, such as his lovely girlfriend Kani(i hope that's how you spell it), as well as his job of landlording, his 12 weeks show, his integral in the VT community, his stream, and more. He would obviously be a great caster for the GSL, but I am not 100% positive that is where his feelings lie. I want to be known that I am not speaking for Ben, and this is not his opinion, this is just my opinion based on what I have seen of him. In my opinion Khaldor would do a fantastic job, as well as gretorp who has gone a long way as a caster since the NASL was introduced, Apollo is strong as well, especially when paired with a strong caster. I feel as if a Khaldor +Wolf casting duo would be great to watch.

EDIT: I thought of an idea, and how about AskJoshy? I feel as if he's a good caster and could be paired well with wolf.
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Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 04:19:03
June 22 2011 04:17 GMT
#463
On June 22 2011 07:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I'd like to go as far as to say that Code A may not actually be the place for "popular" casters. Just as it's a place for players to break into Code S and achieve superstardom, it may also be the place to discover new casting talent. More to the point, popular casters in the West already have a lot of commitments and the Code A salary is not exactly attractive. Big-name casters are pretty much all committed to growing the foreign scene, they can't do that in Korea. There's plenty of talented casters out there that deserve a shot to grow their popularity amongst a more hardcore viewerbase, that don't already have a big fanbase.


You really jump around here, and while I agree with much of what you say, I will say I think you have a bit of a 1 dimensional attitude. To you, going to cast Code A means giving up basically the rest of your livelihood and taking a job in Korea, casting, and supporting your family through that, which I understand, obviously you have certain commitments. For many others, its an opportunity to spend a few months living and working in a foreign country with an amazingly unique and rich culture as well as unreal cuisine, in an industry to love, getting a taste of what can only be considered the Mecca of Starcraft; its not about the money.
Frankly I'm amazed more popular people haven't jumped at the idea, obviously its a big step to go out to Korea, and some people have specific loyalties or commitments to building the foreign scene, but this isn't a 5 year sentence, its a sick opportunity.

tldr; perhaps casting in Korea is a young man's game, as old and bitter as Artosis sounds sometimes xD
cpmoney
Profile Joined September 2010
34 Posts
June 22 2011 04:24 GMT
#464
On June 22 2011 13:17 Adebisi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 07:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I'd like to go as far as to say that Code A may not actually be the place for "popular" casters. Just as it's a place for players to break into Code S and achieve superstardom, it may also be the place to discover new casting talent. More to the point, popular casters in the West already have a lot of commitments and the Code A salary is not exactly attractive. Big-name casters are pretty much all committed to growing the foreign scene, they can't do that in Korea. There's plenty of talented casters out there that deserve a shot to grow their popularity amongst a more hardcore viewerbase, that don't already have a big fanbase.


You really jump around here, and while I agree with much of what you say, I will say I think you have a bit of a 1 dimensional attitude. To you, going to cast Code A means giving up basically the rest of your livelihood and taking a job in Korea, casting, and supporting your family through that, which I understand, obviously you have certain commitments. For many others, its an opportunity to spend a few months living and working in a foreign country with an amazingly unique and rich culture as well as unreal cuisine, in an industry to love, getting a taste of what can only be considered the Mecca of Starcraft; its not about the money.
Frankly I'm amazed more popular people haven't jumped at the idea, obviously its a big step to go out to Korea, and some people have specific loyalties or commitments to building the foreign scene, but this isn't a 5 year sentence, its a sick opportunity.

tldr; perhaps casting in Korea is a young man's game, as old and bitter as Artosis sounds sometimes xD


Man you are so fit for this thing its not even funny. Hit the nail right on the head. I hope to Adebisiiiii casting a Code A season or 2 soon.
Kar98
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia924 Posts
June 22 2011 04:27 GMT
#465
I don't think TB's style would fit GSL. Mr Bitter I feel would be an excellent caster seeing as he did such an amazing job for NASL
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 05:07:21
June 22 2011 05:04 GMT
#466
Apollo gets my vote. I loved him at Dreamhack.

Mr. Bitter would be "ok," but I don't know if he's ready for that big of a stage yet. He seems comfortable talking to a smaller audience.






Again:

Apollo! His accent was soooooooo soothing at DH. And he had great game knowledge. He kept up with Day[9] perfectly.
Temporarykid
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada362 Posts
June 22 2011 05:07 GMT
#467
I dont think day9 would want to move to korea, seeing as he's promoting esports in the west... or would he?
ㅈㅈ
ginto
Profile Joined June 2011
United States13 Posts
June 22 2011 05:11 GMT
#468
Day9 won't move. I don't think TB has the knowledge to keep up in Korea. He has his own little corner of the community. Hopefully, we can use this opportunity to find new casters, instead of watching the same ten or twelve. It would be cool to have more high quality casters on the market, IMO.
D_K_night
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada615 Posts
June 22 2011 05:31 GMT
#469
Well, I think chances are high that we'll find someone who might be a little less known, because all the "name brand" casters already have gigs of some kind where they are, or their situations prohibit them from moving to Korea for 1 month.

About the how the job pays, yeah I'm sure like many things it's probably negotiable and thus they can't reveal how much pay the is. I'm sure it's a range though. But not too much leverage on our side that's for sure.
Canada
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
June 22 2011 05:35 GMT
#470
On June 22 2011 14:11 ginto wrote:
Day9 won't move. I don't think TB has the knowledge to keep up in Korea. He has his own little corner of the community. Hopefully, we can use this opportunity to find new casters, instead of watching the same ten or twelve. It would be cool to have more high quality casters on the market, IMO.

Knowledge is irrelevant, and besides Wolf is far more analytical than he is play-by-play. TB's full time job is his YouTube channel, where SC2 isn't the main view generator, there's no way in hell he'd go. It seems that MrBitter has commitments as well. Good casters are very difficult to find.

I'm personally hoping for Apollo. Something about his accent...
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
June 22 2011 05:39 GMT
#471
Khaldor is FXO team right? So it makes sense. I like Adebisi aswell.
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
June 22 2011 05:51 GMT
#472
On June 22 2011 13:17 Adebisi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 07:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I'd like to go as far as to say that Code A may not actually be the place for "popular" casters. Just as it's a place for players to break into Code S and achieve superstardom, it may also be the place to discover new casting talent. More to the point, popular casters in the West already have a lot of commitments and the Code A salary is not exactly attractive. Big-name casters are pretty much all committed to growing the foreign scene, they can't do that in Korea. There's plenty of talented casters out there that deserve a shot to grow their popularity amongst a more hardcore viewerbase, that don't already have a big fanbase.


You really jump around here, and while I agree with much of what you say, I will say I think you have a bit of a 1 dimensional attitude. To you, going to cast Code A means giving up basically the rest of your livelihood and taking a job in Korea, casting, and supporting your family through that, which I understand, obviously you have certain commitments. For many others, its an opportunity to spend a few months living and working in a foreign country with an amazingly unique and rich culture as well as unreal cuisine, in an industry to love, getting a taste of what can only be considered the Mecca of Starcraft; its not about the money.
Frankly I'm amazed more popular people haven't jumped at the idea, obviously its a big step to go out to Korea, and some people have specific loyalties or commitments to building the foreign scene, but this isn't a 5 year sentence, its a sick opportunity.

tldr; perhaps casting in Korea is a young man's game, as old and bitter as Artosis sounds sometimes xD



GOOOOOO Adebesis!
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
June 22 2011 07:11 GMT
#473
On June 22 2011 13:17 Adebisi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 07:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I'd like to go as far as to say that Code A may not actually be the place for "popular" casters. Just as it's a place for players to break into Code S and achieve superstardom, it may also be the place to discover new casting talent. More to the point, popular casters in the West already have a lot of commitments and the Code A salary is not exactly attractive. Big-name casters are pretty much all committed to growing the foreign scene, they can't do that in Korea. There's plenty of talented casters out there that deserve a shot to grow their popularity amongst a more hardcore viewerbase, that don't already have a big fanbase.


You really jump around here, and while I agree with much of what you say, I will say I think you have a bit of a 1 dimensional attitude. To you, going to cast Code A means giving up basically the rest of your livelihood and taking a job in Korea, casting, and supporting your family through that, which I understand, obviously you have certain commitments. For many others, its an opportunity to spend a few months living and working in a foreign country with an amazingly unique and rich culture as well as unreal cuisine, in an industry to love, getting a taste of what can only be considered the Mecca of Starcraft; its not about the money.
Frankly I'm amazed more popular people haven't jumped at the idea, obviously its a big step to go out to Korea, and some people have specific loyalties or commitments to building the foreign scene, but this isn't a 5 year sentence, its a sick opportunity.

tldr; perhaps casting in Korea is a young man's game, as old and bitter as Artosis sounds sometimes xD

Imo the reason most people wont apply is because the flight to korea and back might take over 50% of the 1 month 2-3 work days a week salary. I know that due that i wouldnt even consider going if i were a caster.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 22 2011 07:16 GMT
#474
On June 22 2011 14:39 skrzmark wrote:
Khaldor is FXO team right? So it makes sense. I like Adebisi aswell.


Wait, what? Really?
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
June 22 2011 07:53 GMT
#475
Gstl starts Friday right? Tastosis going a week on vacation according to their Twitter, so really wonder who gom gets to cast. I do like wolf a lot, but solo casting sux.
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
June 22 2011 08:20 GMT
#476
On June 22 2011 16:53 Mithriel wrote:
Gstl starts Friday right? Tastosis going a week on vacation according to their Twitter, so really wonder who gom gets to cast. I do like wolf a lot, but solo casting sux.


Vacation...together?
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
June 22 2011 08:44 GMT
#477
On June 22 2011 17:20 Daniel C wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 16:53 Mithriel wrote:
Gstl starts Friday right? Tastosis going a week on vacation according to their Twitter, so really wonder who gom gets to cast. I do like wolf a lot, but solo casting sux.


Vacation...together?


Yup, artosis, tasteless and hwanni going a week to Cambodia apparently.
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
June 22 2011 08:44 GMT
#478
On June 22 2011 13:17 Adebisi wrote:

You really jump around here, and while I agree with much of what you say, I will say I think you have a bit of a 1 dimensional attitude. To you, going to cast Code A means giving up basically the rest of your livelihood and taking a job in Korea, casting, and supporting your family through that, which I understand, obviously you have certain commitments. For many others, its an opportunity to spend a few months living and working in a foreign country with an amazingly unique and rich culture as well as unreal cuisine, in an industry to love, getting a taste of what can only be considered the Mecca of Starcraft; its not about the money.
Frankly I'm amazed more popular people haven't jumped at the idea, obviously its a big step to go out to Korea, and some people have specific loyalties or commitments to building the foreign scene, but this isn't a 5 year sentence, its a sick opportunity.

tldr; perhaps casting in Korea is a young man's game, as old and bitter as Artosis sounds sometimes xD


The 1 dimensional attitude is a practical one. Code A is a "job" for those who can afford to take it and don't have a lot to lose. The pay sucks, you have to pay for your flight there, accomodation if you can't get in the GOM house (and if you can, you are staying with like 10 other guys which for some is not preferable), there is a massive language barrier and it's a lot of work for minimum compensation.

More popular people haven't jumped on it precisely BECAUSE they have specific loyalties and commitments. Code A is best suited to bachelors with nothing tying them down. You can't support a family on "love" for Starcraft alone so for many of us, even considering Code A would be ridiculously irresponsible. Trying to paint it as a lack of commitment to the scene rather than a realistic, sensible decision to not do something rash and impractical, is fairly silly.
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papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 08:55:52
June 22 2011 08:55 GMT
#479
On June 22 2011 17:44 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 13:17 Adebisi wrote:

You really jump around here, and while I agree with much of what you say, I will say I think you have a bit of a 1 dimensional attitude. To you, going to cast Code A means giving up basically the rest of your livelihood and taking a job in Korea, casting, and supporting your family through that, which I understand, obviously you have certain commitments. For many others, its an opportunity to spend a few months living and working in a foreign country with an amazingly unique and rich culture as well as unreal cuisine, in an industry to love, getting a taste of what can only be considered the Mecca of Starcraft; its not about the money.
Frankly I'm amazed more popular people haven't jumped at the idea, obviously its a big step to go out to Korea, and some people have specific loyalties or commitments to building the foreign scene, but this isn't a 5 year sentence, its a sick opportunity.

tldr; perhaps casting in Korea is a young man's game, as old and bitter as Artosis sounds sometimes xD


The 1 dimensional attitude is a practical one. Code A is a "job" for those who can afford to take it and don't have a lot to lose. The pay sucks, you have to pay for your flight there, accomodation if you can't get in the GOM house (and if you can, you are staying with like 10 other guys which for some is not preferable), there is a massive language barrier and it's a lot of work for minimum compensation.

More popular people haven't jumped on it precisely BECAUSE they have specific loyalties and commitments. Code A is best suited to bachelors with nothing tying them down. You can't support a family on "love" for Starcraft alone so for many of us, even considering Code A would be ridiculously irresponsible. Trying to paint it as a lack of commitment to the scene rather than a realistic, sensible decision to not do something rash and impractical, is fairly silly.


Completely off-topic:

Do you make a living on SC2 or do you have day-job as well?

Just curious...
Stolat
Profile Joined June 2010
Poland241 Posts
June 22 2011 08:57 GMT
#480
First of all, i <3 casting style of TB and Khaldor.

Sc2 casting should be more excitement based, that is why we watch sports. To share the emotions, passion and fun that comes along with it. Of course we do need logic and basic knowledge about the game, but still - we need more passion.

The 2 mentioned above really bring that to the game (even my girlfriend sometimes watches final events or big games with me)

For single handed casting - i see no place just for analytical casting. Of course, there are ppl on the world that will learn smth or get more knowledge about the game and will enjoy that even more, but for newcomers and those without any sc2 experiance it is usually unwatchable.

And yeah - perfect combo is when caster that brings passion to the game is supported with the one with knowledge.

Ps. GL Khaldor in Korea :D
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