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Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
June 07 2011 11:08 GMT
#81
Hard to see Tyler motivated now that he isn't even top 16 MLG.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
June 07 2011 11:10 GMT
#82
On June 07 2011 19:01 Golgotha wrote:
Wont the MLG pay for Losira, MMA, and MC to fly over? i thought mlg was going to cover all the costs of the koreans...they really should so more can come


Only the four invites gets everything payed. These four aren't the next four invites probably.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
June 07 2011 11:12 GMT
#83
On June 07 2011 18:54 Full.tilt wrote:
Not really impressed with this system, far too forgiving on people who get seeded and fail to perform well in the previous tournament compared to people who come through the open brackets playing and winning many more games.

I don't know, seems to be doing fine to me. I mean those people fighting through the open bracket, sure they do well, but the players seeded are playing like 10 times harder opponents, so them "failing to perform" can just be a question of "I'm playing slightly to hard players".

Sure they still get some points for it, but in general you can see the people that failed to perform drop out of seeded. Moreso, the people that did perform all got above or very close to the people that failed this MLG.

Am I correct in that the seeds reset again in end of 2011? 2012 etc?
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 11:15:56
June 07 2011 11:13 GMT
#84
On June 07 2011 20:10 papaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 19:01 Golgotha wrote:
Wont the MLG pay for Losira, MMA, and MC to fly over? i thought mlg was going to cover all the costs of the koreans...they really should so more can come


Only the four invites gets everything payed. These four aren't the next four invites probably.

Yup you can get invited only once. It was already stated in the thread about the exchange.

Also i wonder what will happen to Tyler gum contract if he under-performs next MLG also...
radu_c
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania226 Posts
June 07 2011 11:17 GMT
#85
Why weren`t White-Ra and Kas in this tournament?:>
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
June 07 2011 11:17 GMT
#86
On June 07 2011 19:59 papaz wrote:

Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 19:26 Spicy Pepper wrote:
Nestea
July
Losira
DRG
Moon
MVP
MKP
MMA
SC
Nada
Boxer
MC
Alicia
San
Squirtle
Ace

How much would this suck to see a live event with these 16 players?


I love to see every player on that list, however not at the same time in MLG. I already subscribe to GSL and get to watch them there.

MLG had a really nice mix of players from different countries and I hope that MLG always will have the healthy mix. It is actually the only "global" lan tournament where we can all see NA/EU/SEA/Korea duke it out which is awesome.

Dreamhack has that mix as well, and I dare say that Dreamhack summer will be alot better than MLG Colombus.
rycho
Profile Joined July 2010
United States360 Posts
June 07 2011 11:19 GMT
#87
On June 07 2011 19:26 Spicy Pepper wrote:
So I guess people are not looking forward to the eventual top 16 of MLG, which will be something like the following.
Nestea
July
Losira
DRG
Moon
MVP
MKP
MMA
SC
Nada
Boxer
MC
Alicia
San
Squirtle
Ace

How much would this suck to see a live event with these 16 players?

Probably need to invite 4 non-Koreans like Idra, Huk, Naniwa and Thorzain.

So is this the worst case scenario for MLG?


this might be a troll, i can't really tell. i don't think seeing a live event with what could be the best 16 players in the world would "suck" at all, in fact i think it would be the best event possible. do you people really hate koreans this much?
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
June 07 2011 11:20 GMT
#88
If that's the worst case scenario, MLG are in for great things. I'd pay to watch that!
SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
June 07 2011 11:23 GMT
#89
I got a question, in next MLG how many people will be seeded into groups ?
16 like in Dallas or 20 like in Columbus ?
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
June 07 2011 11:23 GMT
#90
16, and 4 new Korean invites.
Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
June 07 2011 11:27 GMT
#91
On June 07 2011 20:17 radu_c wrote:
Why weren`t White-Ra and Kas in this tournament?:>

this has already been discussed. The problem is that it's very expensive for Europeans to go to an MLG (basically it means, that a player must be top 8 or something like that not no loose money.
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 11:28:41
June 07 2011 11:27 GMT
#92
On June 07 2011 19:26 Spicy Pepper wrote:
So I guess people are not looking forward to the eventual top 16 of MLG, which will be something like the following.
Nestea
July
Losira
DRG
Moon
MVP
MKP
MMA
SC
Nada
Boxer
MC
Alicia
San
Squirtle
Ace

How much would this suck to see a live event with these 16 players?

Probably need to invite 4 non-Koreans like Idra, Huk, Naniwa and Thorzain.

So is this the worst case scenario for MLG?



Its funny cause if the Top 16 looks like that it will look like that for a reason. Not to be mean but regular Olympics draw way more viewers than Special-Olympics.
So if non-Korean Pros will not keep up with Koreans i will be happily looking forward to a Top 16 like that.

Worst case for MLG will be that they only allow 4 Koreans in the whole tournament to protect the non Korean players. Would only lead to a stagnation in skill.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
June 07 2011 11:28 GMT
#93
So tyler will have to go through the open bracket next MLG?
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
June 07 2011 11:29 GMT
#94
On June 07 2011 20:28 Senx wrote:
So tyler will have to go through the open bracket next MLG?


It looks like he has to, unless enough players that are seated higher do not take their seat.
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 11:41:46
June 07 2011 11:41 GMT
#95
On June 07 2011 20:19 rycho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 19:26 Spicy Pepper wrote:
So I guess people are not looking forward to the eventual top 16 of MLG, which will be something like the following.
Nestea
July
Losira
DRG
Moon
MVP
MKP
MMA
SC
Nada
Boxer
MC
Alicia
San
Squirtle
Ace

How much would this suck to see a live event with these 16 players?

Probably need to invite 4 non-Koreans like Idra, Huk, Naniwa and Thorzain.

So is this the worst case scenario for MLG?


this might be a troll, i can't really tell. i don't think seeing a live event with what could be the best 16 players in the world would "suck" at all, in fact i think it would be the best event possible. do you people really hate koreans this much?

A live 3-day tournament with those players in the pools + some foreign pros in the open brackets would be a lot better than ... basically anything.

Sundance, move MLG to korea, you know it makes sense.
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
HickleStine
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia276 Posts
June 07 2011 11:51 GMT
#96
KAWAII RICE HWAITING!!!!!!!!!
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 11:56:05
June 07 2011 11:52 GMT
#97
On June 07 2011 20:17 labbe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 19:59 papaz wrote:

On June 07 2011 19:26 Spicy Pepper wrote:
Nestea
July
Losira
DRG
Moon
MVP
MKP
MMA
SC
Nada
Boxer
MC
Alicia
San
Squirtle
Ace

How much would this suck to see a live event with these 16 players?


I love to see every player on that list, however not at the same time in MLG. I already subscribe to GSL and get to watch them there.

MLG had a really nice mix of players from different countries and I hope that MLG always will have the healthy mix. It is actually the only "global" lan tournament where we can all see NA/EU/SEA/Korea duke it out which is awesome.

Dreamhack has that mix as well, and I dare say that Dreamhack summer will be alot better than MLG Colombus.


agreed, maybe not crowd wise but the games should be good. Also I expect MLG Anaheim to top Dreamhack Summer!
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 12:05:09
June 07 2011 11:54 GMT
#98
On June 07 2011 20:28 Senx wrote:
So tyler will have to go through the open bracket next MLG?


unless some a couple of the top16 players don't attend.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 12:13:38
June 07 2011 12:10 GMT
#99
On June 07 2011 19:30 Spicy Pepper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 19:28 Kraznaya wrote:
On June 07 2011 19:26 Spicy Pepper wrote:
Nestea
July
Losira
DRG
Moon
MVP
MKP
MMA
SC
Nada
Boxer
MC
Alicia
San
Squirtle
Ace

How much would this suck to see a live event with these 16 players?


can't tell if serious :/


Apparently some people are.


1. It's far-fetched due to scheduling conflicts and the fact their teams would have to fly them out.
2. How can you say it would suck when the entertainment value of the games would far exceed that of anything we've seen thus far?
3. I tell those people to get a grip and stop being poor sports.

2 years from now, there's a possibility that these guys will compete in fewer international tournaments based on the fact that OGN/MBC might get deals with Blizzard to start their own leagues and the Pro League will continue to get longer.

They simply won't have time for us, so ENJOY it while it lasts and stop being d-bags about it.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
June 07 2011 12:31 GMT
#100
On June 07 2011 20:27 zocktol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 19:26 Spicy Pepper wrote:
So I guess people are not looking forward to the eventual top 16 of MLG, which will be something like the following.
Nestea
July
Losira
DRG
Moon
MVP
MKP
MMA
SC
Nada
Boxer
MC
Alicia
San
Squirtle
Ace

How much would this suck to see a live event with these 16 players?

Probably need to invite 4 non-Koreans like Idra, Huk, Naniwa and Thorzain.

So is this the worst case scenario for MLG?



Its funny cause if the Top 16 looks like that it will look like that for a reason. Not to be mean but regular Olympics draw way more viewers than Special-Olympics.
So if non-Korean Pros will not keep up with Koreans i will be happily looking forward to a Top 16 like that.

Worst case for MLG will be that they only allow 4 Koreans in the whole tournament to protect the non Korean players. Would only lead to a stagnation in skill.


Haha that's so mean~ And i wouldn't put Moon, Boxer, Squirtle, or Ace in the top 16~~
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
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