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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
June 07 2011 10:02 GMT
#41
Dammit, Thorzain not quite making it =(

Ohdamn
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany765 Posts
June 07 2011 10:05 GMT
#42
nnooooooooooooez..............
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Double Letters
Profile Joined March 2011
United States58 Posts
June 07 2011 10:06 GMT
#43
huk has 460 points, so he wouldn't make it into the top 16. maybe he'll get invited :D
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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10301 Posts
June 07 2011 10:08 GMT
#44
Slush needs more love
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
June 07 2011 10:11 GMT
#45
On June 07 2011 19:01 Golgotha wrote:
Wont the MLG pay for Losira, MMA, and MC to fly over? i thought mlg was going to cover all the costs of the koreans...they really should so more can come

They will only pay once. Next time they will pay the cost of 4 new Koreans. The previous (MMA, Losira, MC, Moon) will have to pay for the travel cost themselves.
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tooPrime
Profile Joined March 2011
United States245 Posts
June 07 2011 10:12 GMT
#46
So I know MLG would like to get some Koreans in there, but if they invite 4 new Koreans every time and the previous Koreans keep showing up with their plush seedings they got from getting placed into pool play, wouldn't pool play just become mostly Koreans after awhile?

It is sort of like if the GSL gave 6 Code S spots away to foreigners every new tournament.
aDd3z
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany885 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 10:13:57
June 07 2011 10:12 GMT
#47
July not in the top 16?! so he will not be seeded into the pools ?

Edit: what about socke btw? didnt he made top 6 last time
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Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
June 07 2011 10:13 GMT
#48
On June 07 2011 18:18 GhostFall wrote:
Wait so like MMA, Moon, Losira, and MC were the 4 MLG invites. I honestly don't see a korean invite not making the top 16, so essentially, everytime we invite a Korean player, you're replacing a foreign player in the pool with a Korean player.

It's way easier for them to get MLG seeding than others. Take July for example who had to go through the open bracket. He is an extremely strong player, on the level of the other 4 Koreans but because he had to go through the open bracket he wont get MLG seeding because it was harder. That was just July, think of the other players having to go through the Open players, all the foreigners.

If MLG is going to continue to add Koreans into the Championship Pool, they need to add more than 4 pools. They should possibly make it 8 pools or we're going to have Korean players have a huge advantage in taking MLG seeding. They are already skilled enough to do it legitimately through the open bracket, now we're making it extremely easy.


You're assuming Koreans will always come back, the assumption from MLG (who have far more info than you) is that they won't.

Given how easilly all the Koreans stomped the championship bracket they'd have no trouble in the open bracket at all and would essentially ruin the open bracket system should they be placed there.
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
June 07 2011 10:13 GMT
#49
On June 07 2011 19:12 tooPrime wrote:
So I know MLG would like to get some Koreans in there, but if they invite 4 new Koreans every time and the previous Koreans keep showing up with their plush seedings they got from getting placed into pool play, wouldn't pool play just become mostly Koreans after awhile?

It is sort of like if the GSL gave 6 Code S spots away to foreigners every new tournament.


Maybe when top 16 is Koreans only people will realize how shitty it is...

... or maybe not -_-
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Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
June 07 2011 10:14 GMT
#50
It's going to be crazy if MLG keeps inviting 4 new Koreans for each event and the previous ones that qualified for pool play return. Not sure what I think about that. I think maybe they should make it 4 Korean pool players total. So if 2 decide to return, then limit the invites to only 2 instead of 4.
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Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
June 07 2011 10:15 GMT
#51
The only korean I ever see coming again would me MC as he has the money to pay for himself to come again. But that would still mean no top 16 for Tyler...
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zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
June 07 2011 10:17 GMT
#52
Socke still in Top 16, we might see him again then :D
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 10:20:32
June 07 2011 10:20 GMT
#53
On June 07 2011 19:13 Ragoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 19:12 tooPrime wrote:
So I know MLG would like to get some Koreans in there, but if they invite 4 new Koreans every time and the previous Koreans keep showing up with their plush seedings they got from getting placed into pool play, wouldn't pool play just become mostly Koreans after awhile?

It is sort of like if the GSL gave 6 Code S spots away to foreigners every new tournament.


Maybe when top 16 is Koreans only people will realize how shitty it is...

... or maybe not -_-


Yes, when the top 16 is filled with consistent/good players ppl will realize how shitty it is.
lim1017
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1278 Posts
June 07 2011 10:20 GMT
#54
so if the 4 koreans

dont come next MLG

Tyler/THorzain will be tied for 16th seed. how would they work that out
rycho
Profile Joined July 2010
United States360 Posts
June 07 2011 10:22 GMT
#55
On June 07 2011 19:13 Ragoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 19:12 tooPrime wrote:
So I know MLG would like to get some Koreans in there, but if they invite 4 new Koreans every time and the previous Koreans keep showing up with their plush seedings they got from getting placed into pool play, wouldn't pool play just become mostly Koreans after awhile?

It is sort of like if the GSL gave 6 Code S spots away to foreigners every new tournament.


Maybe when top 16 is Koreans only people will realize how shitty it is...

... or maybe not -_-


what? why would people not like it because the players are korean?
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 10:24:19
June 07 2011 10:23 GMT
#56
On June 07 2011 19:15 Benjef wrote:
The only korean I ever see coming again would me MC as he has the money to pay for himself to come again. But that would still mean no top 16 for Tyler...

I'd imagine their teams/sponsors would pay for their trip. If not, yeah, definitely not worth it except for the championship tourney. A lot of Korean teams are getting international sponsors so it would stand to reason they would want as much international exposure as possible and pay for the trip. Sending a player on a weekend plane trip is a lot cheaper than a lot of other forms of advertising.
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cordlc
Profile Joined November 2010
United States360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 10:27:38
June 07 2011 10:25 GMT
#57
On June 07 2011 19:15 Benjef wrote:
The only korean I ever see coming again would me MC as he has the money to pay for himself to come again. But that would still mean no top 16 for Tyler...

Don't forget Moon at #15, he's made way more money than MC has from WC3. Also traveled tons more, I'd actually be surprised if he doesn't show up.

I can understand the worry of Koreans just dominating the tournament if they keep reserving 4/20 slots in the pools for them... I wouldn't mind if they just sent them to play in the Open Bracket, since they'll almost definitely plow through the ranks.

Then again, that'd give the pool players even more of an advantage, given a free pass to avoid the sharks down below, lol. Like someone earlier said, they'd ruin the system for the Open Bracket players. I dunno...
Spicy Pepper
Profile Joined December 2009
United States632 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 10:27:32
June 07 2011 10:26 GMT
#58
So I guess people are not looking forward to the eventual top 16 of MLG, which will be something like the following.
Nestea
July
Losira
DRG
Moon
MVP
MKP
MMA
SC
Nada
Boxer
MC
Alicia
San
Squirtle
Ace

How much would this suck to see a live event with these 16 players?

Probably need to invite 4 non-Koreans like Idra, Huk, Naniwa and Thorzain.

So is this the worst case scenario for MLG?
captive411
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States80 Posts
June 07 2011 10:28 GMT
#59
I think July should get the sponsored Korean spot in the next MLG. Keep in mind that Anaheim is closer to Korea by a couple hours. Its also a much more desirable destination then other venues. I'm expecting to see quite a few more Koreans there.
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aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
June 07 2011 10:28 GMT
#60
On June 07 2011 19:20 lim1017 wrote:
so if the 4 koreans

dont come next MLG

Tyler/THorzain will be tied for 16th seed. how would they work that out


i'm guessing tyler cause he was there "first", but i dont know
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