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zawk9
Profile Joined March 2011
United States427 Posts
May 31 2011 18:42 GMT
#801
On June 01 2011 03:36 vol_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
We're going to add some new multiplayer units, and take out some multiplayer units

Bye collosus?


If only it were true...
there's a bug in the new patch where the other player keeps killing all my dudes.. please nerf this
Gumbos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada55 Posts
May 31 2011 18:44 GMT
#802
Fantastic write up, a lot of great info to dig my teeth into! Thanks!
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
May 31 2011 18:45 GMT
#803
If anyone could calmly respond without getting all pissy that I'm not super hyped for this expansion... how exactly did this info surpass peoples expectations and get them really excited. The single player is largely going to be the same, and not many features are changing. It's basically exactly what anyone should have expected...
Xouh
Profile Joined April 2010
France26 Posts
May 31 2011 18:47 GMT
#804
Here is a gameplay video :
" If you steal the immortals, it's just really good, 'cause immortals obviously, they're Protoss units, so they kill stuff really fast, It's good to have them on your side" - IdrA
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
May 31 2011 18:48 GMT
#805
On June 01 2011 03:42 zawk9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 03:36 vol_ wrote:
We're going to add some new multiplayer units, and take out some multiplayer units

Bye collosus?


If only it were true...

There is no way to make the game better than to remove that god damn unit - not even balance reasons, its just STUPID.

"Oh you had enough vikings and I got RAPED"
"Oh you didnt have enough vikings, I lost 0 units"
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
DirtYLOu
Profile Joined May 2010
575 Posts
May 31 2011 18:51 GMT
#806
On June 01 2011 03:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 03:42 zawk9 wrote:
On June 01 2011 03:36 vol_ wrote:
We're going to add some new multiplayer units, and take out some multiplayer units

Bye collosus?


If only it were true...

There is no way to make the game better than to remove that god damn unit - not even balance reasons, its just STUPID.

"Oh you had enough vikings and I got RAPED"
"Oh you didnt have enough vikings, I lost 0 units"



Blizzard meant that if they add new units they will remove existing ones and replace them with new ones.
http://sc2ranks.com/c/9051/slayersteam/ <-- SlayerS players in Grandmaster !
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
May 31 2011 18:51 GMT
#807
On June 01 2011 03:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 03:42 zawk9 wrote:
On June 01 2011 03:36 vol_ wrote:
We're going to add some new multiplayer units, and take out some multiplayer units

Bye collosus?


If only it were true...

There is no way to make the game better than to remove that god damn unit - not even balance reasons, its just STUPID.

"Oh you had enough vikings and I got RAPED"
"Oh you didnt have enough vikings, I lost 0 units"


Ya I couldn't agree more... it just becomes a balancing act in PvZ and PvT... and they are a boring unit to watch.
MinimalistSC2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
May 31 2011 18:51 GMT
#808
swarmling + posthumous mitosis with Splitterlings is going to be SO MUCH FUN!!
There is no such thing as perfection, only improvement.
Moonling
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States987 Posts
May 31 2011 18:52 GMT
#809
On June 01 2011 03:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 03:42 zawk9 wrote:
On June 01 2011 03:36 vol_ wrote:
We're going to add some new multiplayer units, and take out some multiplayer units

Bye collosus?


If only it were true...

There is no way to make the game better than to remove that god damn unit - not even balance reasons, its just STUPID.

"Oh you had enough vikings and I got RAPED"
"Oh you didnt have enough vikings, I lost 0 units"



'Oh you didn't have corrupotrs i lost 5 supply"
"Oh you have corruptors i killed your maxed army twice"

The collosus is just a bad unit they should revamp its design and add a different robo unit to the toss
1% of koreans control 99% of starcraft winnings. #occupykorea.
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
May 31 2011 18:52 GMT
#810
On June 01 2011 03:51 DirtYLOu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 03:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On June 01 2011 03:42 zawk9 wrote:
On June 01 2011 03:36 vol_ wrote:
We're going to add some new multiplayer units, and take out some multiplayer units

Bye collosus?


If only it were true...

There is no way to make the game better than to remove that god damn unit - not even balance reasons, its just STUPID.

"Oh you had enough vikings and I got RAPED"
"Oh you didnt have enough vikings, I lost 0 units"



Blizzard meant that if they add new units they will remove existing ones and replace them with new ones.


hopefully... lol

i'm also hoping the nydus worm gets a huge buff, like, idk, faster build time, and upgrade to pump out units faster, idk... but THAT seems super underused.
I'm like badass squared | KeitZer.489
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
May 31 2011 18:54 GMT
#811
On June 01 2011 03:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 03:42 zawk9 wrote:
On June 01 2011 03:36 vol_ wrote:
We're going to add some new multiplayer units, and take out some multiplayer units

Bye collosus?


If only it were true...

There is no way to make the game better than to remove that god damn unit - not even balance reasons, its just STUPID.

"Oh you had enough vikings and I got RAPED"
"Oh you didnt have enough vikings, I lost 0 units"

Did they really say that they were going to remove some units? I did not expect that at all , it would be a really big move, I really hope they will remove the colossus (which is a units with a really bad game design). But I guess you would need to remove units from terrans and zergs as well...
Lucidx
Profile Joined December 2010
United States122 Posts
May 31 2011 18:54 GMT
#812
Thanks for all this info guys! Im stoked, even as a terran player
" I would rather get AIDS then get hit by a bus then have my expansion blocked by a pylon" - Day[9]
TERRANLOL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States626 Posts
May 31 2011 18:56 GMT
#813
On June 01 2011 02:25 Funkatron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 02:18 Hikari wrote:
Excellent write up.
Part of me still missed the SC/BW storytelling where you have a whole race champaign which have a lot of plot development =S.

The part where they want to remove units for multiplayer interest me...


I was bothered by the comment that they were thinking of removing the obs because it wasn't "cool enough"


All in all, the observer is a pretty dumb unit design. I didn't play much BW so I'm not sure if it was legit in that environment, but right now the idea that the protoss player builds a unit which literally just stares at your army and base to scout your composition sounds kind of stupid.
Hallucination/Reaper/Overlord are good scout unit ideas. Observer is not.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 31 2011 19:00 GMT
#814
On June 01 2011 03:56 TERRANLOL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 02:25 Funkatron wrote:
On June 01 2011 02:18 Hikari wrote:
Excellent write up.
Part of me still missed the SC/BW storytelling where you have a whole race champaign which have a lot of plot development =S.

The part where they want to remove units for multiplayer interest me...


I was bothered by the comment that they were thinking of removing the obs because it wasn't "cool enough"


All in all, the observer is a pretty dumb unit design. I didn't play much BW so I'm not sure if it was legit in that environment, but right now the idea that the protoss player builds a unit which literally just stares at your army and base to scout your composition sounds kind of stupid.
Hallucination/Reaper/Overlord are good scout unit ideas. Observer is not.


I thought it was removing the overseer that they hated. Did I read it wrong?
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Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
May 31 2011 19:01 GMT
#815
as a Protoss player I really hope now they're removing the colossus. it's just an aweful unit. This would open so much possibilities and maybe would make protoss a more fun race to play.
r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
May 31 2011 19:01 GMT
#816
On June 01 2011 03:56 TERRANLOL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 02:25 Funkatron wrote:
On June 01 2011 02:18 Hikari wrote:
Excellent write up.
Part of me still missed the SC/BW storytelling where you have a whole race champaign which have a lot of plot development =S.

The part where they want to remove units for multiplayer interest me...


I was bothered by the comment that they were thinking of removing the obs because it wasn't "cool enough"


All in all, the observer is a pretty dumb unit design. I didn't play much BW so I'm not sure if it was legit in that environment, but right now the idea that the protoss player builds a unit which literally just stares at your army and base to scout your composition sounds kind of stupid.
Hallucination/Reaper/Overlord are good scout unit ideas. Observer is not.


Well, in broodwar they were more useful because detection was part of the standard game rather than having units that instantly killed you because you didn't have detection. With mines and lurkers hanging around they were a requirement. And due to thier low health, observer sniping was pretty common. Id say its a good unit as long as it has something to do more than looking at unit compositions, scouting, and preventing you from dieing to DTs. If that's the only thing an observer does, then its boring(like in PVP in broodwar)
Flash Fan!
Sentient
Profile Joined April 2010
United States437 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 19:02:47
May 31 2011 19:02 GMT
#817
Great writeup, thanks TL!

But I'd like to have a stern word with Blizzard: Char is not the Zerg homeworld. Have you forgotten your own lore?!
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
May 31 2011 19:04 GMT
#818
On June 01 2011 03:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 03:42 zawk9 wrote:
On June 01 2011 03:36 vol_ wrote:
We're going to add some new multiplayer units, and take out some multiplayer units

Bye collosus?


If only it were true...

There is no way to make the game better than to remove that god damn unit - not even balance reasons, its just STUPID.

"Oh you had enough vikings and I got RAPED"
"Oh you didnt have enough vikings, I lost 0 units"


And add the Reaver back in? man that would be awesome!
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TheAlchemist89
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
160 Posts
May 31 2011 19:05 GMT
#819
I like the colossus... but to avoid the stalemate predictable battles, it would be cool to see it made a lot stronger, move a lot slower, and shoot a lot slower and be slower to construct. This way they would be peppered into a military ball as a seige unit, instead of as a backbone that you have to babysit and you either win or lose based on if the enemy has Vikings/Corrupters.

Removing the unit itself is a huge leap (and a huge mistake imo), and I can't really see that happening... nor should it. It's cliffwalking has huge strategic uses, and it can be hit by ground attacks and air attacks.... I would just like to see it turn into a true seige unit instead of requiring 8 of them to insta dominate. 1 or 2 in an army delivering static d busting abilities, or forcing the opponent to move would be very cool.
TERRANLOL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States626 Posts
May 31 2011 19:06 GMT
#820
On June 01 2011 04:00 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 03:56 TERRANLOL wrote:
On June 01 2011 02:25 Funkatron wrote:
On June 01 2011 02:18 Hikari wrote:
Excellent write up.
Part of me still missed the SC/BW storytelling where you have a whole race champaign which have a lot of plot development =S.

The part where they want to remove units for multiplayer interest me...


I was bothered by the comment that they were thinking of removing the obs because it wasn't "cool enough"


All in all, the observer is a pretty dumb unit design. I didn't play much BW so I'm not sure if it was legit in that environment, but right now the idea that the protoss player builds a unit which literally just stares at your army and base to scout your composition sounds kind of stupid.
Hallucination/Reaper/Overlord are good scout unit ideas. Observer is not.


I thought it was removing the overseer that they hated. Did I read it wrong?


No you're right. I went back and looked at the original post and noticed that the person I quoted was just mistaken.
However, I still think the observer is a dumb unit. Lol.
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