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LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
May 31 2011 18:23 GMT
#781
pretty awesome update, great work guys!
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
May 31 2011 18:24 GMT
#782
On June 01 2011 03:08 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 02:53 TheDougler wrote:
On June 01 2011 02:50 BlasiuS wrote:

The mineral cost should be high enough to discourage massing them in the early-game or mid-game. For example, imagine if the cost of the overseer was 400/0, or 400/25. Would you see more of them late-game? Absolutely.


Yeah, I'm sure this thought process goes through every zerg player's head:

Hmm, I could expand right now, but what I really wish for is a flying doofus who can detect and goop things...

Just saying... Even if that number was like 200/25 we wouldn't see more overseers. Because when do you REALLY need them? Only for detection really.


Oh no DT expand! OH NO HE MADE ENOUGH DTs TO ONE SHOT SPORES! I know! I'll make a oversee... crap.
Good thing the game balancers aren't so rash.

Why did Kerrigan glow orange? Good question. I'm going to assume or pretend or whatever that its related to spending years and years inside organic materials and flying around in a leviathan.



Lol, exactly. Those DTs would instantly pay for themselves as soon as they get warped into the map.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
May 31 2011 18:26 GMT
#783
On June 01 2011 03:08 Probe1 wrote:
You guys know how in the beginning, the overmind captured new species and infested them into the swarm? Zerglings were akin to dogs and Guardians were giant friendly space manta rays?

What the hell happened to that idea? Everythings a mutation of something prior now Or even a genetic experiment. Sorry, I forgot none of that matters now that the Dark Voice is behind everything.


I understand what you're trying to say but I think its premature to say it now. You have seen (well not you exactly but some lucky people) 2 missions from the SP and only old units take part in them. We saw upgrades and mutations for existing units, nothing new. Just like in WoL we had upgrades to do.

To me that doesnt mean that you arent going to have some missions in the campaign to search and "capture" new species that will turn out into new units. I believe we should wait and see.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
meep
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1699 Posts
May 31 2011 18:27 GMT
#784
Pretty sick! I'm glad I'm going to Blizzcon this year.
閑静 しずか (ノ・_・)ノ
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
May 31 2011 18:28 GMT
#785
On June 01 2011 03:27 meep wrote:
Pretty sick! I'm glad I'm going to Blizzcon this year.


You lucky bastard
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Spacedude
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark161 Posts
May 31 2011 18:28 GMT
#786
On June 01 2011 02:49 Sabu113 wrote:
T.T They are making the zerg too fluffy. What happened to their pure desire to just consume?

Anyway excited for more Nova, though I would be really entertained if some headshot takes her out.


Maybe Zerg ends up evolving into carebears? I really don't understand why they would change something that makes Zerg special and scary. Lame and uoriginal, imo.
Protoss win, Protoss OP. Terran win, Terran OP. Zerg win, Zerg OP. Less whine, more gg.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 18:30:47
May 31 2011 18:29 GMT
#787
What units are those Adrian? I'm confused how you could even compare units in a game without a food limit and starcraft O.o Sure the motherships cool but its not like how everyone got a Tanya et al


Edit: Well put Kobrakay. That was a really good response to what I said and I agree with you now.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
AutomatonOmega
Profile Joined February 2011
United States706 Posts
May 31 2011 18:29 GMT
#788
The Marketplace will also eventually include a commerce element that will allow mapmakers to charge a fee for their work. While there will always be a wealth of free content, we believe that allowing content creators to profit from their work will foster an environment for more complex and higher-quality custom maps. Our ultimate hope is that the StarCraft Marketplace will function and thrive in a similar manner as mobile "app-stores" -- tons of free and premium content for players, and a limitless source of entertainment through StarCraft II and Battle.net.


Hmm, interesting.

For HotS, we would like to emphasize the single player experience, to try to get the fact out there that it's not just for the hardcore gamers. For WoL, we emphasized the multiplayer so much that we almost feel like it got labeled as a game only for the hardcore players. So really, this campaign is the area where we can get someone in, and allow someone to even use just their mouse to get through it. It's an opportunity to explore, and there are moments that allow you to just beat another opponent around; it should allow new people to get into the story experience. We're going to add some new multiplayer units, and take out some multiplayer units and we're going to try to make it really great, but a ton of the work is going to go into single player.


Eh, pandering to casuals. Whateva.
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
May 31 2011 18:30 GMT
#789
On June 01 2011 03:22 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Omg someone in the audience said 'vulture' when listing non-useful units T_T Im guessing he thought Browder was listing useful units rather than not-so-useful, since the Dark Archon and Valkyrie werent SO bad in terms of how much they were used (Scouts and ghosts probably the two strongest examples?).


He might have meant the SC2 campaign vulture. Spider mines aren't so necessary against crappy AI.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
May 31 2011 18:32 GMT
#790
Hah at 1:03:30 or so Browder points and says Sir, you in the back! Its day9
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
May 31 2011 18:33 GMT
#791
On June 01 2011 02:22 goiflin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 02:21 ClysmiC wrote:
Only 20 missions....?

Sad face.


I'd like more too, but WoL had 24 altogether, didn't it? It'll probably be the same amount.


It has 29. So approx. 2/3 the missions and 2/3 the price.
I'll call Nada.
Facedriller
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden275 Posts
May 31 2011 18:34 GMT
#792
This is looking great, i understand the importance of multiplayer, but i honestly loved the Single Player in WoL, and i like that they take SP so seriously, let's hope they improve on it and make it twice as good!
A Marine walks into a bar and says: "Where's the counter?"
aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
May 31 2011 18:35 GMT
#793
This makes me so excited for Blizzcon! I am seriously optimistic that there will be alot of announcement this year in regards to their various IPs. I mean, it's sort of reasonable as last year was so sparse, can't wait!
goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
May 31 2011 18:36 GMT
#794
On June 01 2011 03:33 lololol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 02:22 goiflin wrote:
On June 01 2011 02:21 ClysmiC wrote:
Only 20 missions....?

Sad face.


I'd like more too, but WoL had 24 altogether, didn't it? It'll probably be the same amount.


It has 29. So approx. 2/3 the missions and 2/3 the price.


Oh, my bad, I thought it was 24, you're right.

I'm okay with 2/3 for 2/3's the price. I won't buy the game for the campaign, anyway.
Leyra
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1222 Posts
May 31 2011 18:36 GMT
#795
I'm actually really excited for the campaign ;x even if I am a multiplayer junkie elitist type.
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
May 31 2011 18:36 GMT
#796
We're going to add some new multiplayer units, and take out some multiplayer units

Bye collosus?
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
May 31 2011 18:37 GMT
#797
On June 01 2011 03:33 lololol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 02:22 goiflin wrote:
On June 01 2011 02:21 ClysmiC wrote:
Only 20 missions....?

Sad face.


I'd like more too, but WoL had 24 altogether, didn't it? It'll probably be the same amount.


It has 29. So approx. 2/3 the missions and 2/3 the price.


Here's hoping they have less tutorial missions. WoLs first 2 missions were easier than cannon rushing like a BOSS and really contributed a disproportionately small amount to the entire campaign. BW had a bit less tutorial more getting straight to it, hopefully they'll replicate that trend.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
KillerPlague
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1386 Posts
May 31 2011 18:38 GMT
#798
great coverage! sadly i have more questions leaving this thread then when i first opened it
Side 1: Why no dominant players with 90% win ratio Side 2: Nerf Side 1
Char711
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States862 Posts
May 31 2011 18:40 GMT
#799
Great article!

Not enthused about the marketplace thing. I hate how people think every single game should be monetized in a way like this (quick, buy your Kerrigan hats!).

Also, I'm only slightly embarrassed to say that I'm really, really looking forward to Raynor/Kerrigan resolution.
"If you can chill, chill." -Liquid`Tyler "Special tactics." -White-Ra
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
May 31 2011 18:42 GMT
#800
Mmm Kerrigan is looking mighty fine again :D Everything looks so fun, I can't wait to start screwing around on the campaign
Sup.
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