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Inverse1
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom61 Posts
May 31 2011 09:32 GMT
#241
Thankyou TL! great article, can't wait to hear more! :D
i'm about to open some fuckin' windows
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19246 Posts
May 31 2011 09:33 GMT
#242
This...is...awesome!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Ohdamn
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany765 Posts
May 31 2011 09:33 GMT
#243
we're really looking for a cool superhero vibe from most of the units, that works together and in various points in the game can have the wow factor when watching it.

haha that kinda made mae laugh....what zerg unit can you think of that has a cool superhero vibe? XDD (well..infestor maybe..)

but omg i can't wait to get more infos...the vid looks fucking awesome :OOo
"If you can chill....chill!"
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
May 31 2011 09:33 GMT
#244
On May 31 2011 17:10 Fighter wrote:
Show nested quote +
As far as learning through the multiplayer, we learned that not everything works exactly as planned - the different roles for the units didn't work as well as we had planned. We planned to have the immortal be more of a meat shield, and have the hardened shield be one of the core mechanics; however, the burst damage ended up being the more important part of the unit.


This little bit was really interesting to me. I'd love to hear what else didn't end up as planned..


This thing is just stupid, because they made the Immortal that way, hp/shields is similar to 2 Stalkers(which have the same cost), and the shield ability compared to just having more hp/shields makes a significant difference on a very few units(and what it does is marginallize those units, the ability itself isn't very good design), even marauders that deal twice the damage needed to activate the shield kill an immortal in 21 hits and 2 stalkers in 18.
These same stalkers deal 28 damage to armored, while the immortal deals 50.
It's clear that the difference in damage is much larger than the difference in tanking.
I'll call Nada.
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
May 31 2011 09:34 GMT
#245
Singleplayer looks pretty fun. The splitting baneling is hilarious; too bad it probably won't exist in multiplayer. Only disappointment is the Prowler, which is just a WoL Roach.

One thing that concerns me is the marketplace. Not that I'm necessarily opposed to paying mapmakers for quality maps, but truth be told I think the custom game offerings on SC2 are already quite lacking. There's basically no custom games that I want to play a lot over other games I own, let alone paying for them.

But like all things, we'll just see how the free market plays out with that. Either it will be a great idea that promotes fantastic maps, or it will be a dud and no one will pay for maps, and people will revert to making free maps anyways.
Xkalibert
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 09:37:15
May 31 2011 09:35 GMT
#246
Izsha is Infested Cyborg Adjutant.
source: at gamespot video interview at 4:56 time.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/starcraftiiheartoftheswarm/news/6316113/starcraft-ii-heart-of-the-swarm-hands-on-preview-zerg-campaign?sid=6316113&mode=previews&tag=topslot;subtitle;1

And the snow beast according to the Developer is Yeti.
Dahlian
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany37 Posts
May 31 2011 09:36 GMT
#247
Wow did you see that zergling at 0.56 in the video? Holy crap the marines wont like to cuddle them anymore.
Intuit these souls allowed to shine.
Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
May 31 2011 09:36 GMT
#248
The "snow" environment looks gorgeous... Cannot wait for 1v1 on that kind of map!
Anyway, quite pumped for the new campaign.

Thanks for the great coverage!
BartPil
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland27 Posts
May 31 2011 09:36 GMT
#249
I can't wait for zerglings with rapid genesis
IIIOmegaIII
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden319 Posts
May 31 2011 09:37 GMT
#250
awesome!! thanks alot :D
Tanstaafl
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom123 Posts
May 31 2011 09:37 GMT
#251
1.) I honestly think the way forward for the multiplayer is to transform the game with more interesting mechanics that aren't necessarily new units - things like watchtowers, sensor towers, destructible rocks, and gold expansions, which all made a measurable impact on how SC2 feels compared to SC1.

I know they're downplaying the multiplayer in this preview for the purpose of focusing on the campaign (and between now and release, tons of stuff in the multiplayer is bound to change anyway, just as it did for WoL), but I really hope they have some tricks up their sleeves that they're not letting us know about just yet. WC3 -> TFT was a major improvement with the creep indicators on the map, mercenary heroes, buildable item shops and so on. SC2 was a relatively conservative sequel in terms of introducing new RTS elements, and as much as I love the game in its present form it would be a shame not to see it move forward and do something truly fresh.

2.) I can't help but feel a bit short-changed that their target for the single-player campaign is around 20 missions rather than WoL's 26+3. I thought the whole purpose of splitting each campaign into a separate release was so each race could receive an equally extensive treatment. Then again, since HotS is obviously aimed at players who have already played WoL, the reduced number of missions shouldn't be too bad since it won't have to lean on as much tutorial filler (e.g. the first few missions of WoL).

As it stands, even WoL felt a tad too short to encourage trying out the upgrades for units you receive late in the campaign. I won't disagree with putting quality over quantity, though.

3.) Probably what I like best about Blizzard is that they know better than to constantly push their minimum requirements skyward like the rest of the PC game industry.

4.) I bet they're axing the carrier.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
May 31 2011 09:37 GMT
#252
On May 31 2011 18:32 rift wrote:
having to pay to play a custom map with friends sounds like it could backfire...we'd want to actually see if it was worth playing more than once before spending money on it

it'd probably lead to us just ignoring said maps


If we only consider maps as they are now, then yes. Paying for maps would probably be a waste of money. However, there have been a few projects going around that look to make truly epic maps. It could also be a way to market campaign and/or RPG packs from the community. The community and map makers will reach some sort of market equilibrium on what is and isn't worth paying for.
(Spiff)
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada82 Posts
May 31 2011 09:38 GMT
#253
"For example, the Overseer is not a cool unit, it's basically a glorfied scout at this point. We're looking at either taking out or replacing these units that aren't as cool. The other thing that we need to watch out is how these units interact in combination."
No more overseer? T_T I love them though

Once again an amazing writeup TL!!
Now, everyone in my house watches GSL. GO eSports :D
Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
May 31 2011 09:38 GMT
#254
Oh my god.... I don't think I can more any more hyped now LOL :D

Thanks TL <3
CommentatorAustralian SC2 Caster | Twitter: @MaynardeSC2 | Twitch: twitch.tv/maynarde
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
May 31 2011 09:38 GMT
#255
Thinking about it...the raptor is kind of useless because speedlings are so fast and there really hasn't been an issue regarding speedlings not being fast enough to reach their targets. Swarmlings sound cool but if the cost supply then it doesn't seem like such an amazing upgrade...just getting lings faster. The roach gaining +10 HP seems sort of cool? Roach rushes + that fast upgrade will be pretty nice when the other person has to pull probes i.e. roaches get fast kills...but besides rushing I don't see too too much of a purpose....

Really no new units...so far just upgrades on old ones that don't seem to really address anything big at the moment but we will have to see.

The queen upgrade looks possibly viable though if it can be researched early enough in the game...Perhaps better reactionary defence there
PDizzle
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark1754 Posts
May 31 2011 09:39 GMT
#256
I don't really dig the marketplace idea, but the rest seems awesome :D:D:DD:
No_Roo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States905 Posts
May 31 2011 09:39 GMT
#257
Kerrigan in these screen shots sure looks like the bastard child of Tosh from WoL and seven of nine from voyager.
(US) NoRoo.fighting
Drolla
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom389 Posts
May 31 2011 09:40 GMT
#258
Ah it's a shame there probably not going to be adding LAN at any point, but thanks for the write-up, it's a lot to digest after just waking up from a terrible sleep. ;D
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
May 31 2011 09:41 GMT
#259
On May 31 2011 18:38 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:
Thinking about it...the raptor is kind of useless because speedlings are so fast and there really hasn't been an issue regarding speedlings not being fast enough to reach their targets. Swarmlings sound cool but if the cost supply then it doesn't seem like such an amazing upgrade...just getting lings faster. The roach gaining +10 HP seems sort of cool? Roach rushes + that fast upgrade will be pretty nice when the other person has to pull probes i.e. roaches get fast kills...but besides rushing I don't see too too much of a purpose....


Remember these are all SINGLE PLAYER units.

Having that said, which would you rather like? Zerglings that can leap into the midst of a protoss ball and focus a collosus, or 3 zergligns that get stuck behind forcefields and die to lasers?
bmml
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom962 Posts
May 31 2011 09:43 GMT
#260
I know the event was meant to be all SP but the bluntness of NO LAN was horrifying. We're never going to have decent cross region support.
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