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AlternativeEgo
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Moralez
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On November 16 2011 09:34 ThisGS wrote: wtf, its running and its listed nowhere -,- missed half an hour for nothing Same | ||
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Horse...falcon
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AlternativeEgo
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lolnoty
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Dhinanta
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figq
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On November 16 2011 10:27 AlternativeEgo wrote: Well it's kind of true, that what Bisu did was rather making a build viable, when nobody thought it was, because of his superior mechanics. He's not inventor of the build itself, but is the one to perfect and make it work.Calls Bisu an innovator - gets shut down. Hard. But at the same token - we could have many of those in SC2 too. There are so many builds that seem unreasonable at the moment, but in the hands of the gods could become suddenly possible and powerful, because they execute them so well. | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On November 16 2011 10:48 Dhinanta wrote: Someone please post the link for that mutalisk puppet! Here | ||
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Dhinanta
United States50 Posts
On November 16 2011 10:50 AlternativeEgo wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/mdoth/knitted_mutalisk_marionette_xpost_from_rgaming/ You're awesome. Thank you! | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
No, thank you for being so enthusiastic and happy. ʕ^ᴥ^ʔ + Show Spoiler + now make me one | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On November 16 2011 10:49 figq wrote: Well it's kind of true, that what Bisu did was rather making a build viable, when nobody thought it was, because of his superior mechanics. He's not inventor of the build itself, but is the one to perfect and make it work. But at the same token - we could have many of those in SC2 too. There are so many builds that seem unreasonable at the moment, but in the hands of the gods could become suddenly possible and powerful, because they execute them so well. We recognized he made it popular but he did not invent the build which is what the caller was asking about... | ||
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Dhinanta
United States50 Posts
On November 16 2011 10:58 AlternativeEgo wrote: No, thank you for being so enthusiastic and happy. ʕ^ᴥ^ʔ + Show Spoiler + now make me one I am, at this very moment, trying to hound down a friend who makes tiny crochet animals. I'm hoping she can take this on! That guy has only been making this stuff for 7 months (based on oldest video he has and him mentioning it's only been a few months). Here's a loaded question: Poll: How much would you pay for one of these crocete puppets $20+ (8) $50+ (7) $100+ (3) $200+ (1) $10+ (1) $150+ (0) 20 total votes Your vote: How much would you pay for one of these crocete puppets (Vote): $200+ | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On November 16 2011 11:00 iNcontroL wrote: We recognized he made it popular but he did not invent the build which is what the caller was asking about... Bisu may not be the sole innovator of the PvZ style he used back in 2007 to detheone Savior but his style TODAY is unlike anything else we have seen in the past or present. To call Bisu stupid (as Idra had done in the past) and a player who only gets by on mechanics is extremely disrespectful and completely untrue. Next he said Jaedong also isn't an innovator. As a former zerg I expect you to call him out on this Geoff since that simply isn't true. Jaedong changed the way zergs looked at ZvP with his 3 hatch spire > 5 hatch. Just that alone is pretty borderline of all the improvements Jaedong highhandedly to all zerg matchups. Honestly innovation isn't just about creating something even if it fails. People call Destiny innovative but it isn't like he was the first person on Earth to make almost only pure infestor, he was just the first to make it work at the top level. Bisu made Sair/DT builds work against modern day zerg players and it then became the defacto build in the matchup. But I guess that doesn't qualify him as an innovator because DaezanG did it in some practice games beforehand? That's silly. | ||
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BioGenie
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On November 16 2011 12:52 setzer wrote: Bisu may not be the sole innovator of the PvZ style he used back in 2007 to detheone Savior but his style TODAY is unlike anything else we have seen in the past or present. To call Bisu stupid (as Idra had done in the past) and a player who only gets by on mechanics is extremely disrespectful and completely untrue. Next he said Jaedong also isn't an innovator. As a former zerg I expect you to call him out on this Geoff since that simply isn't true. Jaedong changed the way zergs looked at ZvP with his 3 hatch spire > 5 hatch. Just that alone is pretty borderline of all the improvements Jaedong highhandedly to all zerg matchups. Honestly innovation isn't just about creating something even if it fails. People call Destiny innovative but it isn't like he was the first person on Earth to make almost only pure infestor, he was just the first to make it work at the top level. Bisu made Sair/DT builds work against modern day zerg players and it then became the defacto build in the matchup. But I guess that doesn't qualify him as an innovator because DaezanG did it in some practice games beforehand? That's silly. Dude, you are missing the point. Jaedong made that style popular, he did not invent it. Literally, the thing we were talking about is old bw pros inventing new styles not yet seen in SC2. Popularizing does not equal inventing. | ||
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howLiN
Portugal1676 Posts
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Cross.
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monXikk
Poland742 Posts
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Hardigan
Switzerland1297 Posts
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figq
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On November 17 2011 06:04 iNcontroL wrote: You were correct in what was said. And you certainly know about all this more than us. Still, that's quite fascinating - to think that styles that are currently overlooked as infeasible can become stronger than anyone has thought.Dude, you are missing the point. Jaedong made that style popular, he did not invent it. Literally, the thing we were talking about is old bw pros inventing new styles not yet seen in SC2. Popularizing does not equal inventing. For another comparison, when GSL began, and our foreign beta scene fully delved into the Korean scene, many people said "they don't play the same game", because they were using things that we would have assumed don't work. | ||
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