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Sqq
Norway2023 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10364 Posts
The number of players and tournaments in Korea is much lower, so therefore these numbers are more volatile. How do you know this? It's a bit ignorant of you to say that, unless you also are very close with the Korean scene. Just because we don't get too many news or posts here on TL or in the western world in general, it doesn't mean they don't have many tournaments or players. | ||
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thebole1
Serbia126 Posts
ofc some additionall dps from other unites would be great but if something have 2 high dps for exemple colloss have hudge dps they should be easyer to kill they dont sufer enaph treet (it should easyer get killed by normal ground unites...) also Stimed MMM and banglings... User was warned for this post | ||
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Ruyguy
Canada988 Posts
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On May 03 2011 06:15 Sqq wrote: The PvZ one just seems wrong. Before IdrA had his weird run this past week or two, I can't recall seing a lot of Zergs beating Protoss. Looking at idra, his last 40 games in the TLPD he is 20-20, a clean 50%. Overall 34-29 53,97%. So I don't think he is skewing the stats like some are suggesting. I recall for instance Nerchio, Happy and Stephano winning lots. They are bound to have been winning vs Protoss as well. | ||
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Sablar
Sweden880 Posts
On May 03 2011 06:25 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Just data, remember not to take this and make a quick assumption or anything ^_^ How do you know this? It's a bit ignorant of you to say that, unless you also are very close with the Korean scene. Just because we don't get too many news or posts here on TL or in the western world in general, it doesn't mean they don't have many tournaments or players. OP says it's from TLDP and there aren't a lot of games there. But of course there is a difference in the number of players and tournaments shown and number of players and tournaments that there isn't any data for. I guess it could mean any of the two. Great job putting the numbers together anyway and it's really interesting. The only thing I'm missing is something like N per month. | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On May 03 2011 06:25 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Just data, remember not to take this and make a quick assumption or anything ^_^ How do you know this? It's a bit ignorant of you to say that, unless you also are very close with the Korean scene. Just because we don't get too many news or posts here on TL or in the western world in general, it doesn't mean they don't have many tournaments or players. One way of knowing this is that the Koreans players have stated this numerous of times in interviews. There are very few tournaments besides GSL in KR. | ||
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fraktoasters
United States617 Posts
On May 03 2011 05:38 DragonDefonce wrote: Considering the amount of zerg QQ in the korean forums, the PvZ in korea is quite surprising to me. Also pretty ridiculous how badly P did in april in korea. Yeah they did SO bad that the highest any Protoss got was 3rd and 4th in the World Championship and before that there were 3 Protosses in the top 4 of GSL March, with a Protoss winning the thing. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills reading this thread. | ||
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RemrafGrez
United States180 Posts
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00Visor
4337 Posts
On May 03 2011 06:15 Sqq wrote: The PvZ one just seems wrong. Before IdrA had his weird run this past week or two, I can't recall seing a lot of Zergs beating Protoss. Thats why its better to look at actual statisticts and not guess on our own valuation. | ||
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RemrafGrez
United States180 Posts
On May 03 2011 00:03 Mailing wrote: Though it does seem weird, why would korean protoss fail so hard yet european and NA protoss are fine after the infestor buff? It's not like korean zerg are even using infestors more often. Maybe it's because Korean Zergs and Terrans are more aggressive. Everybody knows to put pressure on Zerg, but they should also put pressure on Protoss. | ||
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Br3ezy
United States720 Posts
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Uhh Negative
United States1090 Posts
On May 03 2011 06:45 RemrafGrez wrote: Scary statistics in Korea. So the higher the skill and the more experience, the better Zerg is doing and the worse Protoss... at least by the numbers. Can we have amulet back yet? You can't really conclude that. It may be true, but there's not enough data to support that claim yet. I'd love to see Protoss get amulet back along with a +light nerf to collosus. It's been needed for a long time. Collosus is just too good against anything on the ground. Period. There is little reason to use immortals over collosus. It would make the game more interesting, IMO. It would add some choice. | ||
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Etrnity
United States88 Posts
Also, if you wouldn't mind adding in lines for the patch adjustments I think that would be amazing. I doubt that there is much significance in the patches and changes in the percentages, but who knows? I think it would be a fun exercise, and eye candy for a lot of folks! :D | ||
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RemrafGrez
United States180 Posts
On May 03 2011 00:17 dismiss wrote: The problem with these statistics is that they take neither the different maps nor the the difference in playskill into account, which, at least in my opinion, is much bigger in the foreign scene than in the GSL. So a matchup might look "more balanced" than it actually is due to a few top players beating worse players over and over. The different maps? What happened to Protoss being better on big maps?Sounds like the bandwagon was wrong on that. So if Terran are OP on small maps, and Protoss are doing worse than ever on big maps... what now? | ||
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Let it Raine
Canada1245 Posts
1000 games for korean scene mlg wasn't included, a tournament where protosses dominated in many bo3's. this is why the korean graph is so crazy looking. | ||
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Barca
United States418 Posts
People are just so defensive. | ||
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Uhhmm
Sweden19 Posts
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Gigaudas
Sweden1213 Posts
On May 03 2011 07:21 Barca wrote: Love the excuses people are making up to justify their belief that Protoss is OP. People are just so defensive. Still, it's important to note that Zerg doesn't have a 70% win rate over Protoss over hundreds of games. It's just one month and looking at the months before that we should expect the average win percentage to go towards 50/50 with more games played. | ||
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biskit
Australia355 Posts
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