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minhbq299
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom566 Posts
July 08 2011 05:31 GMT
#561
Flash and JD or bisu will have a bore time play sc2, they may have to play 2 game at once or play some poker table while laddering.
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dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 05:37:00
July 08 2011 05:36 GMT
#562
It's kind of a shame that MC and Nestea haven't really played each other. The current record is 2-2 from what I can gather (Nestea beat MC in GSL 2,, MC 2-0ed Nestea on Gissado KTH (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=178835). But no real recent results.

MC states that PvZ is his best matchup, Nestea's ZvP is pretty frightening. Bah, I hope the MC v Nestea this GSL comes true.
Go go Alliance.
ElusoryX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Singapore2047 Posts
July 08 2011 05:40 GMT
#563
of course they'll do well... but it will never happen because even if flash wins every GSL, his pay in BW will still be more o.o
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Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 05:57:11
July 08 2011 05:56 GMT
#564
Apparently a rough $200 000 a year via salary/sponsorships, then maybe two solo-league wins brings it up to $300 000. You, Mr. ElusoryX, are wrong as fuuuuuuck. Last I checked, he can win at least six GSL tournies a year. That right there is equivalent to the entire package in BW.
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vexyz
Profile Joined July 2011
96 Posts
July 08 2011 06:01 GMT
#565
On July 08 2011 14:56 Cedstick wrote:
Apparently a rough $200 000 a year via salary/sponsorships, then maybe two solo-league wins brings it up to $300 000. You, Mr. ElusoryX, are wrong as fuuuuuuck. Last I checked, he can win at least six GSL tournies a year. That right there is equivalent to the entire package in BW.


Chances are he wont win enough GSL's especially with this wrist condition. He'd be better off playing broodwar with the salary he has, it's much more safer for him.
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SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
July 08 2011 06:48 GMT
#566
Saying Flash would do well at SC2 is like saying a 450 pound person would be good at eating fast food. Its a given.
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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
July 08 2011 07:27 GMT
#567
imagine during his recovery break to heal up his wrist, Flash decided to play some GSL and ended up raping everyone with his left hand ...
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Xavv
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada168 Posts
July 08 2011 07:40 GMT
#568
As has previously been said, Flash could very likely pick up Sc2 for as little as a week and be taking games off of any current tip top pros, that fact is very true.

Sad part is it probably just isn't going to happen for a long time =(
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
July 08 2011 07:50 GMT
#569
It is very possible he would not win a single GSL if he switched to SC2. The threshold for having great mechanics is much lower in SC2 so there will be many more players that would be even with him with regards to mechanics. Decision making is also different in SC2 so his decision making skill in BW may not carry over.

If he switch a year from now he will be two years behind the current Pros, it is quite possible he will end up in code A and never go further.

I mean look at Boxer. He was once the best BW player in the world but right now he is only a code B SC2 player. Flash is of course much better then Boxer ever was but I doubt he will dominate SC2.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5752 Posts
July 08 2011 08:00 GMT
#570
On July 08 2011 16:50 MockHamill wrote:
It is very possible he would not win a single GSL if he switched to SC2. The threshold for having great mechanics is much lower in SC2 so there will be many more players that would be even with him with regards to mechanics. Decision making is also different in SC2 so his decision making skill in BW may not carry over.

If he switch a year from now he will be two years behind the current Pros, it is quite possible he will end up in code A and never go further.

I mean look at Boxer. He was once the best BW player in the world but right now he is only a code B SC2 player. Flash is of course much better then Boxer ever was but I doubt he will dominate SC2.


That's because BoxeR wasn't even A-team material at the time he switched to sc2.
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
July 08 2011 08:12 GMT
#571
On July 08 2011 14:56 Cedstick wrote:
Apparently a rough $200 000 a year via salary/sponsorships, then maybe two solo-league wins brings it up to $300 000. You, Mr. ElusoryX, are wrong as fuuuuuuck. Last I checked, he can win at least six GSL tournies a year. That right there is equivalent to the entire package in BW.


It's not guaranteed that he'll win all the tournies. Flash has slumps too.

Regardless of how much the payout is for GSL, Flash has a stable career and a solid base with BW, and given that his wrist condition is not that good right now, it'll be a very big mistake to switch to SC2 where nothing is certain.
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 08:13:12
July 08 2011 08:12 GMT
#572
On July 08 2011 16:50 MockHamill wrote:
I mean look at Boxer. He was once the best BW player in the world but right now he is only a code B SC2 player. Flash is of course much better then Boxer ever was but I doubt he will dominate SC2.

... but he wasn't when he switched, was he?

I love Boxer, but no one can say he was a top player when he switched.

If Jaedong or Flash switched, they would be so sick good pretty much from the start.

However, I also think that players like fantasy, hydra, calm, sea, stork, etc would own it up. Maybe one of them will switch ... that would be cool.

Saviour is banned for life, and that makes me sad even if it's deserved.
MetalLobster
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada532 Posts
July 08 2011 08:22 GMT
#573
On July 08 2011 16:50 MockHamill wrote:
It is very possible he would not win a single GSL if he switched to SC2. The threshold for having great mechanics is much lower in SC2 so there will be many more players that would be even with him with regards to mechanics. Decision making is also different in SC2 so his decision making skill in BW may not carry over.

If he switch a year from now he will be two years behind the current Pros, it is quite possible he will end up in code A and never go further.

I mean look at Boxer. He was once the best BW player in the world but right now he is only a code B SC2 player. Flash is of course much better then Boxer ever was but I doubt he will dominate SC2.


Boxer coaches and manages a team so he doesn't have as much time to practice.

I think Flash won't dominate SC2 but he would do well if he decides to put the time into it, just like NaDa right now who is consistently getting at least top 8 in GSL despite being in school.
Rarak
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia631 Posts
July 08 2011 08:40 GMT
#574
On July 08 2011 16:50 MockHamill wrote:
It is very possible he would not win a single GSL if he switched to SC2. The threshold for having great mechanics is much lower in SC2 so there will be many more players that would be even with him with regards to mechanics. Decision making is also different in SC2 so his decision making skill in BW may not carry over.

If he switch a year from now he will be two years behind the current Pros, it is quite possible he will end up in code A and never go further.

I mean look at Boxer. He was once the best BW player in the world but right now he is only a code B SC2 player. Flash is of course much better then Boxer ever was but I doubt he will dominate SC2.


Nah Flash would easily be among the best within months of shifting

There is a strong correlation between the top SC2 players and success in BW. What confuses things however is that there are a lot of up and coming players in SC2, and a lot of the SC2 BW pros are young, so they might have been doing well in BW now if they stayed too, its hard to know.



Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
July 08 2011 08:43 GMT
#575
On July 08 2011 17:12 saritenite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2011 14:56 Cedstick wrote:
Apparently a rough $200 000 a year via salary/sponsorships, then maybe two solo-league wins brings it up to $300 000. You, Mr. ElusoryX, are wrong as fuuuuuuck. Last I checked, he can win at least six GSL tournies a year. That right there is equivalent to the entire package in BW.


It's not guaranteed that he'll win all the tournies. Flash has slumps too.

Regardless of how much the payout is for GSL, Flash has a stable career and a solid base with BW, and given that his wrist condition is not that good right now, it'll be a very big mistake to switch to SC2 where nothing is certain.

Oh, I wasn't saying this was a reason he should make the switch, I was just saying his remark was
wrong.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
shaman6ix
Profile Joined January 2011
Greece212 Posts
July 08 2011 09:01 GMT
#576
ignorant bw elitists/fanboys your services are not needed in here. get their dongraegus out of your mouth and go back to bw forums. btw watching the vod in the previous page between Bisu and MC didn't make me thing those two players had huge differences regarding skill or capabilities. I didn't see Bisu ROFLSTOMPING MC, that's apparently something only you see - i saw him win convincingly.

User was banned for this post.
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GMonster
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
686 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 09:05:28
July 08 2011 09:04 GMT
#577
On July 08 2011 18:01 shaman6ix wrote:
ignorant bw elitists/fanboys your services are not needed in here. get their dongraegus out of your mouth and go back to bw forums. btw watching the vod in the previous page between Bisu and MC didn't make me thing those two players had huge differences regarding skill or capabilities. I didn't see Bisu ROFLSTOMPING MC, that's apparently something only you see - i saw him win convincingly.


You think there isn't a huge skill difference between BiSu and MC in bw... talk about ignorance...
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karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
July 08 2011 10:39 GMT
#578
On July 08 2011 16:40 Xavv wrote:
As has previously been said, Flash could very likely pick up Sc2 for as little as a week and be taking games off of any current tip top pros, that fact is very true.

Sad part is it probably just isn't going to happen for a long time =(


This sounds like such fanboyism. BW pros are gods among men but people on these forums hype it up too much sometimes.
Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
July 08 2011 10:42 GMT
#579
Why did this thread get bumped? It's 30 pages of people talking about how the answer MC gave is obvious. :/
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 10:52:29
July 08 2011 10:51 GMT
#580
Aren't current contracts in BW expiring around August? That plus the possibility of KESPA/Blizzard partnerships may mean a major influx form Brood War players to SC2

Forget the speculation, lets actually see it happen

(Yes, I know that the KESPA meetings are rumoured, but it doesn't change the fact that there is a possibility there)
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