EPTActually, if all the bw players switch right now, the top players currently in sc2 would probably look like top 10-20s. Do not underestimate how good some of these bw pros are.
MC: "[Flash] would definitely do well in SC2" - Page 30
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WindCalibur
Canada938 Posts
Actually, if all the bw players switch right now, the top players currently in sc2 would probably look like top 10-20s. Do not underestimate how good some of these bw pros are. | ||
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IGotPlayguuu
Italy660 Posts
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Asymmetric
Scotland1309 Posts
I'm sure he has the potential to be great SC2 player but I'm with Idra on this, the idea that it's envitable that after a couple of months he'll have left all competition in the dust is ludicrious. - Flash has never played in an enviornment where the game shifts litterally every couple of months from patchs to expansions. BW was about him perfecting it, SC2 won't be at the stage for a long, long time. - BW isn't SC2. Some skills transfer. Some don't. Some are completely new. See our current top dog, Nestea (aka zergbong) for further details. An analogy. Michael Schumacher dominated formula 1 racing for a decade, many believed (and still believe) that he was greastest driver of all time. But his recent 2 year comeback hasn't resulted in a single podium position. The games changed, time passes by and hes gotten older. He's still "great" but it's unlikely he'll ever be able to achieve his total domination he once had. | ||
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UkGracken
United Kingdom129 Posts
MC MVP (took a game off flash in tvt.. just no comment at how unreal good u must be to do that.) NESTEA There is little doubt julyzerg, boxer, nada, Were better players at that "time" in there BW carrier, but that was a long time ago for all of them (In starcraft bw terms 6 months is half a lifetime) And i recall idra saying "if stork swapped over and played protoss he would litrally never lose a game" Obviously he is saying protoss is strong but he is also saying that argueably (Although the fact he has won like 10 silverplace medals says so.) the most consistent best protoss swapped to protoss in sc2 he would never lose, Anyone who watches FLASH or JAEDONG or STORK or BISU in fpvod will know if they ever swap over hell is going to break loose Just think there were many many top players who started years and years later ..and now are untouchable. They didn't call jaedong the dragonslayer for nothing. Edit : For people who didnt know.. They called him the dragonslayer because when he was "Coming" up in his carrier he just beat the best legends one after another, slaying the dragons of starcraft 1 by 1. | ||
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Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
On macro alone, Flash is superior already to most progamers. Watch an fpvod of sc1 progamers macroing and stare in awe. They macro without the hotkeys after their army requires around 5 hotkeys. They still don't queue. Flash builds one marine at a time on 3 base as Terran, and has to click on every barracks to macro. Current sc2 progamers are still very much 4aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. | ||
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Spitfire
South Africa442 Posts
But I have doubts about certain things: A) Whether Flash will keep his race or not. Jaedong and Bisu will stick to their races I think, and I hope Flash does too, but does Terran in SC 2 suit his turtling Brood War playing style as well? B) Whether they'll dominate as completely as people think. Having the best mechanics is a huge advantage but not enough in SC2, so many of the top BW players seem to lose games because of the differences when it comes to scouting in SC2. They're all used to playing in a reactive away because of BW and I think I've heard some of them comment on how much harder it is to be prepared in SC 2 | ||
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Fruscainte
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Velr
Switzerland10606 Posts
On July 08 2011 21:38 Fruscainte wrote: I hate to be "that guy", but anyone with Flash's inherent gaming skill that would practice 10-12 hours a day consistently could succeed at this game. He could succeed at every game and many sports (if he has sufficent genes) | ||
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Achaia
United States643 Posts
Flash will do doubt do well if he ever does move over to SC2 (and I truly do hope this happens) but to assume that he will just auto win everything when he does is a bit silly. Either way though this discussion is dumb anyways because it's hypothetical until he actually makes the switch. I'm holding my breath waiting for Jaedong to switch over! Him and JulyZerg are literally my favorite Zerg players of all time. | ||
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Diglett
600 Posts
brood war is the best rts ever made. brood war is the most competitive rts ever made. brood war is incredibly challenging. flash is the best brood war player. he is the best rts player of the best rts game. so i don't think it's that much of a stretch to say he would dominate at sc2, which require similar skills to brood war. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On July 08 2011 20:25 Asymmetric wrote: Don't buy the reasoning. I'm sure he has the potential to be great SC2 player but I'm with Idra on this, the idea that it's envitable that after a couple of months he'll have left all competition in the dust is ludicrious. - Flash has never played in an enviornment where the game shifts litterally every couple of months from patchs to expansions. BW was about him perfecting it, SC2 won't be at the stage for a long, long time. - BW isn't SC2. Some skills transfer. Some don't. Some are completely new. See our current top dog, Nestea (aka zergbong) for further details. An analogy. Michael Schumacher dominated formula 1 racing for a decade, many believed (and still believe) that he was greastest driver of all time. But his recent 2 year comeback hasn't resulted in a single podium position. The games changed, time passes by and hes gotten older. He's still "great" but it's unlikely he'll ever be able to achieve his total domination he once had. A formula 1 driver who retired once he was no longer able to win anything and then comes back 4 years later isn't the same thing at all. If anything, you could compare him to someone like Boxer. | ||
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JiPrime
Canada688 Posts
If Flash actually switches to SC2, then I'll be his number 1 fan. <3 | ||
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
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Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
On July 12 2011 04:47 QTIP. wrote: how does this thread keep popping up? Flash would be good at any video game. end of story. I dunno, mario and sonic at the Olympic games might be difficult with that wrist  | ||
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nVusPip
United Kingdom260 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Would he be good? Yes, undoubtedly. Code S once he got the mechanics down for sure. Would he wreck the game in half? ...Probably not. Not right away, anyway. My reasoning is this: SC2, being a new(ish) game, has a metagame that is evolving stupidly fast. New openings, compositions, and tactics (special or otherwise) show up almost every week. Timings aren't figured out yet completely, as timing pushes keep getting invented. It's still young. Flash has 13 years of SC1 meta gaming behind him, and he is the best at understanding it and abusing it. BW isn't figured out yet, but it's way closer to that point than SC2 is. His mechanics and control will get him far, his work ethic farther, but it's not like he's some psychic that will come in and be years advanced in the meta game. He'd crush people based on his gameplay, but it'll take much longer before he understands the ebb and flow of people's mindsets and strategies. I'm sure he'd have new and interesting strategies, but the idea that he'd just sit down in front of SC2 and figure it completely out when other great players are still coming up with new things is laughable. | ||
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Yip12343
120 Posts
I suggest you guys watch them ! | ||
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Amalaxi
United States180 Posts
On April 30 2011 10:56 YeYo wrote: But in regards of the video i give it 2/5 Bad lighting and shaky camera All fixed by 1) tripod 2) Lights lol Who cares about shaky camera or terrible lighting, I only cared about the subtitles | ||
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shockaslim
United States1104 Posts
On July 08 2011 20:44 UkGracken wrote: I think that people just have to realise that the BEST players of every race have also been the highest up in BW of all the players when they left BW, MC MVP (took a game off flash in tvt.. just no comment at how unreal good u must be to do that.) NESTEA There is little doubt julyzerg, boxer, nada, Were better players at that "time" in there BW carrier, but that was a long time ago for all of them (In starcraft bw terms 6 months is half a lifetime) And i recall idra saying "if stork swapped over and played protoss he would litrally never lose a game" Obviously he is saying protoss is strong but he is also saying that argueably (Although the fact he has won like 10 silverplace medals says so.) the most consistent best protoss swapped to protoss in sc2 he would never lose, Anyone who watches FLASH or JAEDONG or STORK or BISU in fpvod will know if they ever swap over hell is going to break loose Just think there were many many top players who started years and years later ..and now are untouchable. They didn't call jaedong the dragonslayer for nothing. Edit : For people who didnt know.. They called him the dragonslayer because when he was "Coming" up in his carrier he just beat the best legends one after another, slaying the dragons of starcraft 1 by 1. Quit talking out of your ass bro. MC wasn't that good at Brood War, Nestea mostly played in 2v2 tourneys, and MVP was kind of decent. No way in hell they were "the highest up in BW". | ||
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