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Garmer
1286 Posts
On April 30 2011 21:03 s4life wrote: The most charismatic? yes... the best? not by a long shot. i think if boxer is still 18-20 years old, he could beat flash, or match head to head with him easily | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On April 30 2011 21:07 Squeegy wrote: As I recall, Nada and Boxer in particular made a pretty deep run in GSL not long after they had switched. GSL back then still wasn't really developed to the point it is today (iirc no Code A) and was probably much easier to break into. | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On April 30 2011 21:14 Garmer wrote: In a standard game, flash could pretty much outmacro boxer(at his prime) easily. Dont know about micro though.Though an interesting fact,Boxer beat a very young flash in their only(i think) match.i think if boxer is still 18-20 years old, he could beat flash, or match head to head with him easily | ||
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Garmer
1286 Posts
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butchji
Germany1531 Posts
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butchji
Germany1531 Posts
On April 30 2011 21:21 Garmer wrote: yeah boxer macro wasn't that good, but in micro fight, boxer win. Except that FlaSh's micro is ridiculously good and he is famous for his ridiculous bio micro vs zerg. | ||
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
On April 30 2011 21:14 Garmer wrote: i think if boxer is still 18-20 years old, he could beat flash, or match head to head with him easily Flash is 18 right now, and and already has more accomplishments than Boxer did in his entire career. As far as skill is concerned, Flash is way ahead of Boxer in every aspect of the game except for creativity. Prime boxer would take at most 2 games out of 10 from Flash. | ||
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Garmer
1286 Posts
the age play a fundamental role here... | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
They think Flash has good mechanics Well, it's good but not that great. JD and Bisu has the top mechanical skill. In game sense though, Flash is .. GOD. Seriously, those who talk about flash wont make it with the 'greats' of SC2 is just either a blind fanboy or just clueless as to what Flash is. The only problem with flash and sc2 though is that, he knew BW was his thing. That's why he excelled in it. He knew it was his calling. He was destined to be GREAT. And this is coming from a Anti-Flash Fanboy. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6248 Posts
On April 30 2011 21:33 Garmer wrote: has more accomplishments because tthese are other times, with more perhaps type of tournament, dunno now, but i think if boxer nada or july were still 18 eyars old, they could match him without problem the age play a fundamental role here... No it doesn't play a fundamental role the players from now are just a lot better than the players 10 years ago. Just look at Jaedong he is nearing retirement age ( 24 I think? ) but still tearing it up. | ||
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Quarz
448 Posts
On April 30 2011 21:33 Garmer wrote: has more accomplishments because tthese are other times, with more perhaps type of tournament, dunno now, but i think if boxer nada or july were still 18 eyars old, they could match him without problem the age play a fundamental role here... They can match him without problems? There is no one that can match, maybe JD can. ANd JD is much better than all three of them. | ||
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nath
United States1788 Posts
On April 30 2011 13:23 TedJustice wrote: I'm sure flash would do well eventually if he switched over. But I'm willing to bet that he wouldn't dominate. At least definitely not for a few months when he first starts. SC2 isn't a game you can just pick up and play and beat everyone based on your BW instincts, as some other legends have shown. People like Nada and July have basically had to relearn the game from scratch, because it is a new game. It took a lot of work for them to even get to the same level as most of the other pros. I can see Flash getting there a bit faster though. flash will get there *a lot* faster. tvt isn't really much different how is marine-tank based tvz that much different than bw other than timings due to new units/lack of bw units tvp is probably what he has to learn | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On April 30 2011 21:38 aimaimaim wrote: One thing I realized when SC2 people talk about Flash... They think Flash has good mechanics Well, it's good but not that great. JD and Bisu has the top mechanical skill. In game sense though, Flash is .. GOD. Seriously, those who talk about flash wont make it with the 'greats' of SC2 is just either a blind fanboy or just clueless as to what Flash is. The only problem with flash and sc2 though is that, he knew BW was his thing. That's why he excelled in it. He knew it was his calling. He was destined to be GREAT. And this is coming from a Anti-Flash Fanboy. Well, we were talking about his mechanics relative to Old BW players and sc2 players, which is still extremely good. | ||
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
On April 30 2011 10:53 zyzq wrote: Flash is not human. Yeah, i'm sure he would dominate no matter the game. He's the perfect RTS player IMO. | ||
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puppykiller
United States3137 Posts
On April 30 2011 21:41 nath wrote: flash will get there *a lot* faster. tvt isn't really much different how is marine-tank based tvz that much different than bw other than timings due to new units/lack of bw units tvp is probably what he has to learn lol all of the mu are significantly different then their bw counterparts. However, Flash would still dominate (after a short period of time) if he ever switched over (pray to god he doesnt) just because his work ethic and genius level understanding of rts would put him at a supreme advantage. | ||
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Aterons_toss
Romania1275 Posts
First they all played terran in bw and agree or not terran held more then 50% of all tournaments win in bw + more then half of the most important titles ( golden mouse,Bonjwa.. etc ).In starcraft 2 all 3 races got the same 'felling" as BW ( more or less ) but are way better balanced and terran is argueably not the best race in all match-ups atm. Other then that SC2 focused way less on micro and having 500 + apm and much more on macro and having inovateive ways of handling things. | ||
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DougJDempsey
747 Posts
On April 30 2011 10:59 MadCatZ wrote: well when being claimed as the "best" you have to be a well rounded player mechanically physically mentally if you are lacking in one of those catagories you will make mistakes(as we see MC do) and not be able to reach the "best" spot but games to volatile still to have the "best" theres def atleast 5-6 people in the running for that position Even considering your horrible justification, best simply means better than all others. So even without perfection, best still exists. Im neither saying mc is the best or that he's not. Merely your intelligence is limited. | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On April 30 2011 21:58 Aterons_toss wrote: I highly doubt Flash or JD would do well in SC2, they would be on top no doubt about that but not nearly as good as the top 10-15 players right now imo. First they all played terran in bw and agree or not terran held more then 50% of all tournaments win in bw + more then half of the most important titles ( golden mouse,Bonjwa.. etc ).In starcraft 2 all 3 races got the same 'felling" as BW ( more or less ) but are way better balanced and terran is argueably not the best race in all match-ups atm. Other then that SC2 focused way less on micro and having 500 + apm and much more on macro and having inovateive ways of handling things. since when was JD terran? | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On April 30 2011 21:58 Aterons_toss wrote: I highly doubt Flash or JD would do well in SC2, they would be on top no doubt about that but not nearly as good as the top 10-15 players right now imo. First they all played terran in bw and agree or not terran held more then 50% of all tournaments win in bw + more then half of the most important titles ( golden mouse,Bonjwa.. etc ).In starcraft 2 all 3 races got the same 'felling" as BW ( more or less ) but are way better balanced and terran is argueably not the best race in all match-ups atm. Other then that SC2 focused way less on micro and having 500 + apm and much more on macro and having inovateive ways of handling things. They can switch race Idra played Terran and now he plays zerg. Morrow played Terran and now he plays z too Cloud P -> T Goody P -> T Rainbow P -> T Incontrol Z -> P etc... JD would still play Z imo. Flash would be either T or Z. Anyway they will still play bw for a long time i think :p | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On April 30 2011 22:04 Boblion wrote: They can switch race Idra played Terran and now he plays zerg. Morrow played Terran and now he plays z too Cloud P -> T Goody P -> T Rainbow P -> T Incontrol Z -> P etc... JD would still play Z imo. Flash would be either T or Z. What if Flash played Protoss? | ||
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