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MC: "[Flash] would definitely do well in SC2" - Page 10
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Goibon
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Spicy Pepper
United States632 Posts
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Poopi
France13022 Posts
On April 30 2011 20:10 Spicy Pepper wrote: I didn't follow BW, but I want to see if I'm understanding this correctly. You guys are basically saying that if the BW pro scene ended tomorrow, then in 6 months to a year, all the best SC2 players in the world would be Koreans? Unless I'm missing out on some godly foreign RTS pro scene that hasn't transitioned to SC2 yet, that's basically what you guys are saying right? Like I mean pretty much the top 20 SC2 players wouldn't have any foreigners in it? It's already the case, with maybe few exceptions... | ||
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Zorox
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mytent
United States156 Posts
the only thing people have when they switch from sc1 to sc2 is: - similar RTS model/game style. - mechanics (to an extent - because again, not clone model, new keys). game sense does not switch over because its different for different games. the TYPE of game sense required and type of practice required, knowledge and understanding of these things, does switch over. but thats all. | ||
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
Was Iron good at BW? I know he was a B-Teamer so he was better than any foreigner but I only remember seeing a few replays of him and they weren't that amazing by progamer standards. | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
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bashalisk
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
 I think it's the psychology of a winner that makes you truly good. Flash has it.But motivation for SC2.... I doubt I doubt.  | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On April 30 2011 20:10 Spicy Pepper wrote: I didn't follow BW, but I want to see if I'm understanding this correctly. You guys are basically saying that if the BW pro scene ended tomorrow, then in 6 months to a year, all the best SC2 players in the world would be Koreans? Unless I'm missing out on some godly foreign RTS pro scene that hasn't transitioned to SC2 yet, that's basically what you guys are saying right? Like I mean pretty much the top 20 SC2 players wouldn't have any foreigners in it? top 20 SC2 players might consist of at most 1/4 foreigners even now. being generous with 1/2 (10 of them), it would not be surprising if enough bw pros switched over such that these theoretical 10 slots could be filled, but keep in mind not all of these bw pros that could switch over will become top players | ||
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Garmer
1286 Posts
On April 30 2011 11:20 Stoids wrote: I'm surprised that a mediocre B team Brood War player like MC thinks that Flash, the greatest Brood War player of all time, would be a good player. Really good comment from the "best Starcraft 2 player" in the world. just wrong, the best was boxer | ||
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Alver
United States177 Posts
as far as translating skill flash and jaedong would be good at absolutely anything that involves a mouse. im positive with their mechanics, game sence and training experience they could be top counterstrike2 pros, dota2 pros or any other esport with a high skillcap. learning how to train to be the best is hugely important and easily transferable to another game if they could give it 100% of their time. plus their still young enough no one would consider their performance negatively impacted by age. i dont even really watch bw much anymore but the current top bw players are the top esport players who have ever lived. | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
To give you guys some context, Flash parents opposed him becoming a programmer. He told them, let me try one month this summer, if I don't manage, I will give up. To do that he had to win courage, which is an extremely hard single elimination tournament. Jaedong had to try 10 times. And he did it first time. In a month. This is talent. Well, there might be some obstacle. I think one of the reason he is that good is that he really loves the game, he has stated that a few times. I'm not sure it would be the same for sc2. Another thing is that sc2 skill-ceiling might be too low, so his win rate might not be as sick. But all this discussion is pointless, as he's not going to switch =) | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5887 Posts
On April 30 2011 20:37 bashalisk wrote: Flash would take months to reach the state SC2 players are now. I doubt he'll magically become equally good or successful as he is in BW. Oh my, you have no idea how talented Flash is. He got his progaming license in a month - that's one Courage League. It took Jaedong, the second best player to grace BW, like ten attempts at Courage to get one.He has the talent (imo the most talented RTS player ever), work ethic, motivation, the right environment to practice. I really doubt it'd take him more than a month to start dominating SC2 as hard as the game itself allows for. | ||
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Gann1
United States1578 Posts
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
The most charismatic? yes... the best? not by a long shot. | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On April 30 2011 21:03 s4life wrote: The most charismatic? yes... the best? not by a long shot. hes not the best in terms of skill,but he is the most notable/influential. | ||
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Squeegy
Finland1166 Posts
On April 30 2011 13:23 TedJustice wrote: I'm sure flash would do well eventually if he switched over. But I'm willing to bet that he wouldn't dominate. At least definitely not for a few months when he first starts. SC2 isn't a game you can just pick up and play and beat everyone based on your BW instincts, as some other legends have shown. People like Nada and July have basically had to relearn the game from scratch, because it is a new game. It took a lot of work for them to even get to the same level as most of the other pros. I can see Flash getting there a bit faster though. As I recall, Nada and Boxer in particular made a pretty deep run in GSL not long after they had switched. | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On April 30 2011 21:07 Squeegy wrote: As I recall, Nada and Boxer in particular made a pretty deep run in GSL not long after they had switched. Im quite sure GSL2 was their 1st tourney, where they reached r08 and r04 respectively. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On April 30 2011 20:10 Spicy Pepper wrote: I didn't follow BW, but I want to see if I'm understanding this correctly. You guys are basically saying that if the BW pro scene ended tomorrow, then in 6 months to a year, all the best SC2 players in the world would be Koreans? Unless I'm missing out on some godly foreign RTS pro scene that hasn't transitioned to SC2 yet, that's basically what you guys are saying right? Like I mean pretty much the top 20 SC2 players wouldn't have any foreigners in it? it is already (almost) the case now, i think lol people who didnt watch scbw probably have a different understanding of 'pro'. cant wait to see the 'real pros' switch over perfect execution of every strat/response down to split seconds. esport = SEX!!!!just imagine idra's mechanics would be the average standard of pros. ya, got that? | ||
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