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Massive units are not affected by concussive shells. If you think they are, you are wrong.
It's SPORE crawlers that are being changed, not SPINE. Please read carefully.
ZeroxCOOL
Profile Joined April 2011
16 Posts
May 04 2011 06:30 GMT
#3041
Its funny how HTs are going to do insta 200 dmg Thors now. What a stupid concept..give the thor an "ability" which renders it useless in TvP. I never knew that a units ability can be its weakness.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50907 Posts
May 04 2011 06:33 GMT
#3042
rofl,I'd rather EMP my own thors than let them die to feedback.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
archides
Profile Joined November 2010
United States31 Posts
May 04 2011 06:34 GMT
#3043
On May 04 2011 15:30 ZeroxCOOL wrote:
Its funny how HTs are going to do insta 200 dmg Thors now. What a stupid concept..give the thor an "ability" which renders it useless in TvP. I never knew that a units ability can be its weakness.


We can use ghosts to emp our thors. Maybe its a waste of an emp, but still...lol.
Cheddar
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
May 04 2011 06:34 GMT
#3044
at least increase Strike Cannon Range so we can use it on colossus
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
May 04 2011 06:35 GMT
#3045
On May 04 2011 15:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:
rofl,I'd rather EMP my own thors than let them die to feedback.


To all the people whining about how strong feedback is, have you ever seen HT's feedback BCs? It's not near as good as you'd think because how much weaker your army becomes when you commit to templar, the gas cost is unbelieveable. expect to see this tradeoff with thors too. HT tech is an expensive tree to pursue.
Caster duos should compliment each others' strengths. "You look very handsome today, Tasteless."
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
May 04 2011 06:35 GMT
#3046
I think that attributing balance changes to a race whining imba is a pretty childish way of looking at the game.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
voy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland348 Posts
May 04 2011 06:35 GMT
#3047
like infestor wasnt fragile enough. dontlike it.
I'm a man with a dream. And I look good in jeans. graphic designer looking for freelance work.
David451
Profile Joined October 2010
United States491 Posts
May 04 2011 06:35 GMT
#3048
A lot of people in here talking like the Thor nerf is some minor thing that will be overcome. Thors used to have energy, strike cannon "only" cost 100 energy, and they were never used in high-level tournament play except for early game rushes, which this change does not even address. Why does Blizzard think that with high templar tech being even stronger than it used to be, that Thors will somehow be viable this time?
Shae: I don't want to play. Tyrion: It's fun! Look at the fun we're having!
David451
Profile Joined October 2010
United States491 Posts
May 04 2011 06:38 GMT
#3049
On May 04 2011 15:35 Proko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2011 15:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:
rofl,I'd rather EMP my own thors than let them die to feedback.


To all the people whining about how strong feedback is, have you ever seen HT's feedback BCs? It's not near as good as you'd think because how much weaker your army becomes when you commit to templar, the gas cost is unbelieveable. expect to see this tradeoff with thors too. HT tech is an expensive tree to pursue.

Have you ever seen BCs, period? I mean seriously, other than cheesy rush strats (Jinro in the GSL), they're not some core unit in TvP. Now Thors will be just as common as BCs.

*sigh*.... back to Bio.
Shae: I don't want to play. Tyrion: It's fun! Look at the fun we're having!
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 04 2011 06:38 GMT
#3050
On May 04 2011 15:35 David451 wrote:
A lot of people in here talking like the Thor nerf is some minor thing that will be overcome. Thors used to have energy, strike cannon "only" cost 100 energy, and they were never used in high-level tournament play except for early game rushes, which this change does not even address. Why does Blizzard think that with high templar tech being even stronger than it used to be, that Thors will somehow be viable this time?

How are HTs stronger now than when thors originally had energy? They've lost one of their main upgrades and still cost 750 gas to reach in the first place. 0_o

On a semi-related note, and pardon my inability to remember the timeline of beta patches, but was the thor size reduction before or after strike cannons were made a cooldown?
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
May 04 2011 06:38 GMT
#3051
On May 04 2011 15:35 David451 wrote:
A lot of people in here talking like the Thor nerf is some minor thing that will be overcome. Thors used to have energy, strike cannon "only" cost 100 energy, and they were never used in high-level tournament play except for early game rushes, which this change does not even address. Why does Blizzard think that with high templar tech being even stronger than it used to be, that Thors will somehow be viable this time?


Um because the game is a LOT different now than it was in beta and right after release?
Caster duos should compliment each others' strengths. "You look very handsome today, Tasteless."
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
May 04 2011 06:38 GMT
#3052
On May 04 2011 15:35 David451 wrote:
A lot of people in here talking like the Thor nerf is some minor thing that will be overcome. Thors used to have energy, strike cannon "only" cost 100 energy, and they were never used in high-level tournament play except for early game rushes, which this change does not even address. Why does Blizzard think that with high templar tech being even stronger than it used to be, that Thors will somehow be viable this time?


Except for the KA upgrade being gone. How exactly is HT tech stronger than it used to be? The Archon buffs? They're nice, but hardly gamebreaking like KA was.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 04 2011 06:38 GMT
#3053
last I heard high templar tech was weaker than it used to be
CurLy[]
Profile Joined August 2010
United States759 Posts
May 04 2011 06:40 GMT
#3054
Oh stop, 90% of you probably never made a thor in tvp.
Great pasta mom, very Korean. Even my crown leans to the side. Gangsta. --------->
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50907 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 06:42:33
May 04 2011 06:41 GMT
#3055
On May 04 2011 15:35 Proko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2011 15:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:
rofl,I'd rather EMP my own thors than let them die to feedback.


To all the people whining about how strong feedback is, have you ever seen HT's feedback BCs? It's not near as good as you'd think because how much weaker your army becomes when you commit to templar, the gas cost is unbelieveable. expect to see this tradeoff with thors too. HT tech is an expensive tree to pursue.


with the archon buff a Zealot/Archon/HT army is very viable so don't talk to me about gas cost.

a single feedback is not strong but 5-6 can kill,but still I can still go pure ghost mech without much problem.

On May 04 2011 15:40 CurLy[] wrote:
Oh stop, 90% of you probably never made a thor in tvp.


yes,yes we have.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
May 04 2011 06:42 GMT
#3056
Well look on the brightside. I rather have Templars feed backing my Thors than Storming my bio, They'll still have 200 hp of Neosteel to go through Marauders just melt to storm. If I am going Bio(Ghost) Thor, I'd EMP their Templars w/e if they Feedback my Thors I'll have my bio to crush through them. If the storm my bio my Thors will still do fairly well
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
May 04 2011 06:45 GMT
#3057
Infestors are even more fragile now, they are so gas heavy losing them can mean losing the game.
goodfella
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany23 Posts
May 04 2011 06:45 GMT
#3058
No problem, u can just mass Ghosts even better than before Just drop 10 mules at the gold, npnp
Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 06:51:44
May 04 2011 06:46 GMT
#3059
I cried so hard when i red thease updated changes.
Thor energy removal and warp gate research time increase to 180 were the two best news I have ever heard that is reletad to starcraft. But now they are all gone and taken away from my life

The way I see my TvP now is I try to EMP the HTs with new cheap ghost, if i hit I win, if I dont I loose.

PS. I dont like infestor speed decrease either.

Edit: Sorry for over reacting. Reaper nerf was better news than warpgate reasearch 180sec.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
May 04 2011 06:50 GMT
#3060
I think a good general principle of patching a new game is buffing underused and nerfing overused stuff.

That being said i like the archon buff or the infestor buff last patch. The Thor nerf on the other hand is questionable at best.

All in all i wouldn't mind if the patches were a bit more bold as Blizzard seems to change a lot of minor stuff while refraining from addressing much more relevant issues.
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