EPTNASL schedule change - Page 8
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Brad
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Frankon
3054 Posts
On April 15 2011 09:27 I_Love_Bacon wrote: Edit as well: Players will have to start picking and choosing or reeeeally getting good at scheduling games properly for various events. People wont be able to compete in every tournament or league, and that's just a price to pay to stay in some of the bigger leagues. Its the team managers job. I bet Nazgul is already on the line discussing the issues with NASL staff. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
And yes there are a lot of matches played, but remember that each player only play ONE bo3 a week. If they can't schedule one bo3 a week, they can't be called progamers either. | ||
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SweetenemY
Germany136 Posts
How can he say "i cannot play now, wait for me" and then taking a laddersession, while the NASL and Strelok are waiting and rescheduling theyr butt off for him. Thats really bad manner - i totally agree with Strelok and i expect the NASL to punish that kind of behaviour way harder for their own sake. | ||
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Frankon
3054 Posts
On April 15 2011 19:15 MrCon wrote: I fail to understand how MLG can conflict with NASL. Can't MLG players play their matches from MLG ? I guess MLG staff will be glad to provide one or two PC for NASL players, there is a lot of downtime for players to play a bo3. (I could be missing something here) They dont even have PC's for their players ^^; | ||
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Alexj
Ukraine440 Posts
On April 15 2011 18:26 Ocedic wrote: I don't know how you arrived at the conclusion that committing to NASL means not participating in other tournaments. Sjow managed to play his NASL match while still participating in Dreamhack. Fact is, players need to take responsibility for what they do. NASL's job is not to be the personal secretary of all 50 players and build the tournament around THEIR schedules. Previously to changing the rules you HAD to be present for a CERTAIN time slot 9 WEEKS IN A ROW. You can't commit to that without avoiding other events. Actually final DH game overlapped with a specific timeslot -- the timeslot for White-Ra vs July game. And up until this time NASL declined White-Ra for rescheduling. Sjow got eliminated long before he needed to play (and even finals would end long before he would need to play). It doesn't seem to me that White-Ra could do anything prior to game to change the situation -- so he made a decision to choose Dreamhack and was told he will get a def. loose. On April 15 2011 18:26 Ocedic wrote: You act like participating in a league is a RIGHT. It's actually a privilege and a choice. Simple rule of thumb for players: Don't sign up for two conflicting events if you are unable to somehow make it work. How is that unreasonable in the slightest? If the players who had game postpones/automatic forfeits were random nobodies, would you even care to post on their behalf or defend their position? Doubtful. How reasonable is to predict that during 9 weeks you will not be participating in a LAN during a very specific timeslot? Yes, I don't care about random nobodies. But I do care about the fact that HuK and Jinro decided to not participate. I do care about the fact that White-Ra and Tyler need to choose between NASL and offline tournament. Participating in $100000 league is a privilege, but if the league allienates all the good players, it will not stay relevant. | ||
miwi
Sweden647 Posts
In Naniwas case: + Show Spoiler + "There was also an issue while trying to film the first game of the day, Strelok-Naniwa." NASL messed up and they couldnt play on the scheduled time. + Show Spoiler + "At first Naniwa asked if we could reschedule for a different day. Naniwa then asked for time to rest before the match as he had been traveling." Naniwa wanted to reschedule and some time to rest as he had been traveling. + Show Spoiler + "Meanwhile we asked Strelok and his manager if that was OK, Strelok agreed to wait." They reschedule (i think?) + Show Spoiler + "Naniwa had not logged in to the player channel and did not see this message." Naniwa dont get any info about the rescheduled match? + Show Spoiler + "bla bla laddering bla bla" Naniwa play on the ladder because he didnt get a response? (why doesnt NASL contact him at that point?) + Show Spoiler + "However, we could have communicated better and will not be penalizing Naniwa" Naniwa didnt get any info and dont know about the new match -> No penalty for him. In the case of Whire-Ra: Afaik, White-Ra did know about the match, NASL had communicated it to him, but when they were supposed to play White-Ra doesnt show up and doent answer anything (probably on a plane?). July has to wait for 4 hours. Whate-Ra gets a penalty. I do not know if this is the correct interpretation, but this is what I was able to make out of it at least. I think the wierd thing here is that Strelok did get a win. It looks to me like a reward from NASL for "waiting" for a match NASL screwed up on? It might be fair in the Strelok vs Naniwa case (but again naniwa didnt know?) but doesnt look fair to the other players in the group... :/ Hope Im not labeled as some kind of hopeless Naniwa fanboi or something now  Am I the only one interpreting it this way? | ||
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Nakas
United States148 Posts
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Trentelshark
Canada385 Posts
On April 15 2011 21:46 Nakas wrote: Dang... I read the title and was hoping that they decided to air the games a few hours earlier. Do the west coasters that created the NASL realize that their show is going until almost 2am EST? Sure they do, but what do you want them to do, shift it 3 hours earlier so it starts a 3PM PST/6PM EST while everyone on the West Coast is still at work/getting home from school/etc? The start time of 6:00PST/9:00EST (I'm in EST) is about as good as you're going to get when it comes to people being able to watch the live stream. | ||
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Ajax77
United States75 Posts
On April 15 2011 21:46 Nakas wrote: Dang... I read the title and was hoping that they decided to air the games a few hours earlier. Do the west coasters that created the NASL realize that their show is going until almost 2am EST? Go west, trust me, it's nice out here. | ||
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SweetenemY
Germany136 Posts
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Zorkmid
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GGruss
Sweden121 Posts
On April 15 2011 21:03 miwi wrote: Okay, I am only trying to interpret this cryptic message. Here it goes: In Naniwas case: + Show Spoiler + "There was also an issue while trying to film the first game of the day, Strelok-Naniwa." NASL messed up and they couldnt play on the scheduled time. + Show Spoiler + "At first Naniwa asked if we could reschedule for a different day. Naniwa then asked for time to rest before the match as he had been traveling." Naniwa wanted to reschedule and some time to rest as he had been traveling. + Show Spoiler + "Meanwhile we asked Strelok and his manager if that was OK, Strelok agreed to wait." They reschedule (i think?) + Show Spoiler + "Naniwa had not logged in to the player channel and did not see this message." Naniwa dont get any info about the rescheduled match? + Show Spoiler + "bla bla laddering bla bla" Naniwa play on the ladder because he didnt get a response? (why doesnt NASL contact him at that point?) + Show Spoiler + "However, we could have communicated better and will not be penalizing Naniwa" Naniwa didnt get any info and dont know about the new match -> No penalty for him. In the case of Whire-Ra: Afaik, White-Ra did know about the match, NASL had communicated it to him, but when they were supposed to play White-Ra doesnt show up and doent answer anything (probably on a plane?). July has to wait for 4 hours. Whate-Ra gets a penalty. I do not know if this is the correct interpretation, but this is what I was able to make out of it at least. I think the wierd thing here is that Strelok did get a win. It looks to me like a reward from NASL for "waiting" for a match NASL screwed up on? It might be fair in the Strelok vs Naniwa case (but again naniwa didnt know?) but doesnt look fair to the other players in the group... :/ Hope Im not labeled as some kind of hopeless Naniwa fanboi or something now Am I the only one interpreting it this way?It's definately possible that naniwa was at no fault from the information at hand. The information has been scarce and at least to me confusing though. | ||
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Scraps
United States39 Posts
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RudrA
Canada67 Posts
Ppl arent seeing whats happening here. NASL is Removing players for choosing to play in other Leagues. WhiteRa chose to play in DH instead of NASL... hes removed. Nani has "communication" issues and is rescheduled. Really.... is it that hard to see? User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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P0ckets
United States430 Posts
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On April 16 2011 00:59 RudrA wrote: Hehe... Ppl arent seeing whats happening here. NASL is Removing players for choosing to play in other Leagues. WhiteRa chose to play in DH instead of NASL... hes removed. Nani has "communication" issues and is rescheduled. Really.... is it that hard to see? I look forward to seeing July, NaDa etc getting removed for daring to play in the GSL then. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
I will be at every MLG, IGN, TSL, GSl (that I qualify for) etc as will every other player in this league. We just need to communicate and work together to make sure all leagues get their matches played including the ambitious NASL. Each player plays once a week they know this NOW (potentially 9 weeks in advance) it is their duty to communicate the conflicts so we can work them out. Stop trying to make a villain out of the NASL. We actually want to bring you amazing games... why fight us on that? | ||
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joheinous
Iceland522 Posts
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Bluerain
United States348 Posts
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