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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
On April 14 2011 11:40 hmmm... wrote: i keep reading how sc2 mmm would own sc1 protoss. are people forgetting sc1 high templars are what!??? They wouldn't be able to get to HT. MMM would crush by the 12 minute mark. | ||
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OopsOopsBaby
Singapore3425 Posts
On April 14 2011 09:33 Torumfroll wrote: The Colossus would win. dark swarm. | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On April 14 2011 11:40 hmmm... wrote: i keep reading how sc2 mmm would own sc1 protoss. are people forgetting sc1 high templars are what!??? EMP levels it out somewhat. | ||
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MrSexington
United States1768 Posts
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seansye
United States1722 Posts
On April 14 2011 11:40 hmmm... wrote: i keep reading how sc2 mmm would own sc1 protoss. are people forgetting sc1 high templars are what!??? Dragoons would do 20 damage to marauders instead of 10 like the stalker, and zealot speed would make kiting nearly impossible with dragoons firing at it. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium5202 Posts
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Anxiety
United States650 Posts
edit: to my mention, stop lurkers? and Brood War workers can move and shoot. Mininukes>Sc2 zerg. | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On April 14 2011 10:44 IamBach wrote: Only an act of all the Gods put together could save goliathless terrans from well microed BW mutas. Thors would own muta stacking,lol. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On April 14 2011 11:41 MCDayC wrote: They wouldn't be able to get to HT. MMM would crush by the 12 minute mark. Not really. SC1 MM > SC2 MM on the grounds that SC1 stim is stronger than SC2 stim. If you add in marauders, keep in mind that Dragoons do much more damage (20) to Marauders than Stalkers would (14). There's a reason Terrans in SC:BW dont' go MM against Protoss. Yes, HTs wouldn't be out yet, but reavers definitely could be. There's also no rule saying that you have to put reavers in shuttles. The Protoss could simply just turtle up with shuttle-less reavers and maybe cannons and wait for HT to hit the field then rape. | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On April 14 2011 11:54 Ryuu314 wrote: Not really. SC1 MM > SC2 MM on the grounds that SC1 stim is stronger than SC2 stim. If you add in marauders, keep in mind that Dragoons do much more damage (20) to Marauders than Stalkers would (14). There's a reason Terrans in SC:BW dont' go MM against Protoss. Yes, HTs wouldn't be out yet, but reavers definitely could be. There's also no rule saying that you have to put reavers in shuttles. The Protoss could simply just turtle up with shuttle-less reavers and maybe cannons and wait for HT to hit the field then rape. Wait wouldnt marauders be classified as medium units which would then it would receive 15 damage instead due to explosive dmg? I doubt rauders are large units tbh | ||
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Gooey
United States944 Posts
Also, would be ridiculous trying to hold off a BW 2 rax marine/scv bunker rush with sc2 zerg. SCVs imba :D | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On April 14 2011 11:28 NicolBolas wrote: SC2 Terran vs. SC1 Zerg This isn't even a fight; this is an execution. The SC2 Terran will barely even notice the Zerg is there. SC1 Zerg have no answer to MMM. They don't even have something that resembles an answer to MMM. SC1 Zerglings don't have the DPS to deal with Marauders. SC1 Hydralisks don't have the DPS to stop Marauders either, even though Hydras won't take full damage from them. And the zerg don't have the creep-speed bonus (and yes, I'm aware that SC1 Hydras are faster than their SC2 counterparts. That's still not fast enough). Marines have an extra 5 Hp (and that's before the Combat Shield upgrade), and much faster healing from Medivacs. If the SC1 Zerg fast-techs to Lurkers, they might be able to hold out for a bit, but any competent Terran player will save up a couple of scans and deal with them. The SC1 Zerg will FE, the SC2 Terrans will MMM them, and they'll fold like a cheap suit. It's over in 10 minutes. This makes me laugh so hard and pretty much invalidates your whole post imo. Have you not heard of defilers with dark swarm? Yes, it's pretty far up the tech tree, but Zergs do just fine currently in SC:BW against bio play. Keep in mind that stim in BW > stim in SC2. Also BW zerglings do MUCH more dps than zerglings in SC2. Also keep in mind that lurkers destroy MM more effectively than banelings do and yet Zerg does just fine with banelings. Also keep in mind that BW mutas can stack much more effectively and thus harass the Terran's army or economy much better and buy Zerg more time. Just go watch some Jaedong ZvT. You're grossly underestimating the power of BW units (and in some cases completely forgetting about them) in your post. Honestly, I see no way for SC2 to beat BW in any non-mirror matchup. | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
You mean, scourge + high collision = colossi are completely useless. | ||
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lorestarcraft
United States1049 Posts
On April 14 2011 09:34 prodiG wrote: ...do you guys even know what scarabs, plague, cracklings and bw psi storm look like? BW. Hands down. I'd take my hardass dragoon over these pansy-ass stalkers any day. THIS! | ||
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TheKanAry
United States149 Posts
Gogo map makers, SC2 vs BW. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On April 14 2011 11:56 thoradycus wrote: Wait wouldnt marauders be classified as medium units which would then it would receive 15 damage instead due to explosive dmg? I doubt rauders are large units tbh Well depends on how you want to classify it, but for the sake of discussion let's say you're right. But Protoss still has reavers that instagib Terran MMM. Still not a fair match. Reaver turtle into HT. Heck, Protoss could just crawl across the map with shuttle-less reavers and still be fine against a bio Terran. -.- | ||
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SurroundSound
106 Posts
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ChaseR
Norway1004 Posts
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
On April 14 2011 09:34 prodiG wrote: ...do you guys even know what scarabs, plague, cracklings and bw psi storm look like? BW. Hands down. I'd take my hardass dragoon over these pansy-ass stalkers any day. this. and to add on, arbiters (statis fieldddddd), lurkers, reavers, and MEDICS. | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
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