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On April 14 2011 08:33 Cranberries wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 08:30 akalarry wrote: out of curiosity,
is 4am when the koreans normally play for these online tournaments like tsl and nasl?
what time is it for the europeans and north americans? In this scenario 4am Korean Time is around 9pm Swedish time. The finals of DH finished at 21:45~ Swedish time (45 minutes, so that's fine). Whitera then spent approximately 15 minutes on stage signing autographs, pictures. Afterwards he went to the DH afterparty. It's entirely his fault. He easily had enough time to play.
LOL, if that's the case, there should be no argument about Whitera's loss at all. July wakes up at 4 am and waits for 4 hours, while Whitera goes to a party and gets drunk. Glad some other TL members aren't running NASL. Easy call.
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On April 14 2011 09:01 aka_star wrote: +1 for wrong decision
Whole thing sounds like crap to me, I recall the marching anthem from Incontrol how events should be "player focus and for the players and hey doesn't it suck how IdrA couldn't leave GSL to play in a such and such event because of another event" This type of talk was trumpeted over and over again on SOTG.... what a bitter taste of hypocrisy to hear how a 4 hour conflict was resolved in a freewin. There are going to be so many more conflicts as this goes on because you are running every fricken day, you need to deal with these issues appropriately otherwise its going to be quite common that players suddenly drop due to travelling and other events. Maybe you should get the players to play a couple of days in advance swapping out any delayed games with buffer replays from the following day. Amazing how even live events are able to cope with unexpected delays, 5 3way ties and bnet disconnects.
I'm sad that the spectators & the event loses out on quality content which could be played from now til next week and watched whenever a day is short. Sad day indeed.
would you say going to an afterparty and getting wasted is the appropriate way to overcome the issue?
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Not the end of the world thankfully, just sucks a bit thats all.
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On April 14 2011 08:59 joheinous wrote: such bullshit. nasl won't get called out for it because no one can do it in a way that matters to them. there aren't even sponsors to complain too. what a joke.
What are your comments directed towards? NASL did everything they could to try to get in touch with Whitera. If Whitera was anticipating a schedule conflict, he either should've let them know as soon as the conflict was confirmed, or simply texted/emailed/picked up a phone call. July was up from 4am-8am korea time waiting for the match even when, in the contract signed by all the players, a forfeit by Whitera would've been completely legit after 1 hour. Where's the joke in all that?
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Lol, I was so happy when I read the first few pages and it was civil and very level-headed comments about the decision. Skip towards the end and it slips a bit.
Sucks but I'm really impressed with July for waking up so early and sticking around for so long. Also for NASL for making the tough, but right choice. When you have the studio, technicians, and staff scheduled to play the games and this happens it sucks. But allowing a reschedule would make them have to allow any reschedule in the future. And now this sets the bar for even the biggest matches of the night will not receive any preferential treatment.
Tough choice but the right one which makes me give even more respect to the people running the NASL.
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I was wondering how long it would take before this started occuring as some people have intensive scheduling and just the hour of play for koreans in general. I was hoping it would happen to someone i didn't like though...sad day.
On the other hand, zerg power. Thats how the god of war does it, he scares you out of playing.
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On April 14 2011 09:01 Diaz wrote:I thought NASL was happening live  I guess this means it's a live cast only but games were played before?
All the games are casted by the commentators as the games are played live by the players. NASL then edits the footage they record in the studio, edits it, then broadcasts the same night. So basically, games are played same day, just a bit earlier in the day.
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On April 14 2011 08:59 joheinous wrote: such bullshit. nasl won't get called out for it because no one can do it in a way that matters to them. there aren't even sponsors to complain too. what a joke. Hmm who is the sponsor for the NASL? I thought they going to release info when the season starts.
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ugh best game of the day gone just gonna go to bed today and stay up 2morrow then ^^
Might sound stupid but I think White-ra either forgot or simply didn't care about the match too much. As said above he went to the DH afterparty instead of playing NASL, I guess he might have been too tired and didn't give himself much chance because of it. Could have given the NASL guys a call tho
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Overall I think that we can all admit that this was handled admirably. There was a lot of communication and all possible courtesy was extended by NASL. I applaud how they went about it. And I think we can also all agree that waking up at 4 AM and then waiting 4 hours was an impressive act of patience by July, so he certainly deserves to at least receive something.
I love White-Ra, and, considering the type of guy he is, I'm sure he understands and probably even agrees with this.
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On April 14 2011 09:06 BluePabs wrote: Lol, I was so happy when I read the first few pages and it was civil and very level-headed comments about the decision. Skip towards the end and it slips a bit.
Sucks but I'm really impressed with July for waking up so early and sticking around for so long. Also for NASL for making the tough, but right choice. When you have the studio, technicians, and staff scheduled to play the games and this happens it sucks. But allowing a reschedule would make them have to allow any reschedule in the future. And now this sets the bar for even the biggest matches of the night will not receive any preferential treatment.
Tough choice but the right one which makes me give even more respect to the people running the NASL. As I said before, if you allowed reschedules only for big tournaments and some personal stuff (like member of the family dying, graduation, ....) it would be much better for viewers and NASL and would not create any precedent. Blind adherence to schedule, when rescheduling is easy and makes sense is a bad thing, not a good thing.
EDIT:typo fixed
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I think you guys should worry less about what other people do with their time and start worrying about your own.
-_-
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Aw was really looking forward to this , being the only match I would've watched today... But the decision was fair tho.
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On April 14 2011 09:11 Char711 wrote: Overall I think that we can all admit that this was handled admirably. There was a lot of communication and all possible courtesy was extended by NASL. I applaud how they went about it. And I think we can also all agree that waking up at 4 AM and then waiting 4 hours was an impressive act of patience by July, so he certainly deserves to at least receive something.
I love White-Ra, and, considering the type of guy he is, I'm sure he understands and probably even agrees with this. This ;/
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damnitttttttt. was really looking forward to the match
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Fair decision, just really bummed I don't get to watch a BO3 between White-Ra and July. Epicness shattered.
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On April 14 2011 09:12 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 09:06 BluePabs wrote: Lol, I was so happy when I read the first few pages and it was civil and very level-headed comments about the decision. Skip towards the end and it slips a bit.
Sucks but I'm really impressed with July for waking up so early and sticking around for so long. Also for NASL for making the tough, but right choice. When you have the studio, technicians, and staff scheduled to play the games and this happens it sucks. But allowing a reschedule would make them have to allow any reschedule in the future. And now this sets the bar for even the biggest matches of the night will not receive any preferential treatment.
Tough choice but the right one which makes me give even more respect to the people running the NASL. As I said before, if you allowed reschedules only for big tournaments and some personal stuff (like member of the family dying, graduation, ....) it would be much better for viewers and NASL and would not create any precedent. Blind adherence to schedule, when rescheduling is easy and makes sense is a bad thing, not a good thing. EDIT:typo fixed
No, it rescheduling is a bad thing. The NASL was run with accountability in mind, that was why they had the deposits, and the team rules in place. If you're not accountable, you don't deserve to play in the NASL. Sjow was able to make accommodations, so clearly it isn't in the realm of impossibility.
They made the right choice, sucks that July had to wake up at 4 am and couldn't even play, and if I was in that situation I would have taken the walkover as well.
Edit: NASL was already being lenient, extending the grace period from 45 minutes to 4 hours. That's more than enough leniency for such a demanding schedule.
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On April 14 2011 09:09 whowahuh wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 09:01 Diaz wrote:I thought NASL was happening live  I guess this means it's a live cast only but games were played before? All the games are casted by the commentators as the games are played live by the players. NASL then edits the footage they record in the studio, edits it, then broadcasts the same night. So basically, games are played same day, just a bit earlier in the day.
I don't like this too much The thought that the event is happening as I'm watching just makes it way more exciting for some reason
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damn i wanted to see this match really badly
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