EPT[NASL] July awarded 2-0 victory over White-Ra - Page 20
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maganez
United States23 Posts
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RonaldRayGun
United States200 Posts
On April 14 2011 09:53 maganez wrote: it's hard to call White-Ra and Naniwa "Pros" with such unprofessional attitudes. That's the reason people don't take seriously E-sports, what a shame. Who's to say they aren't pros? They are good enough to play for money and for your entertainment. That should be enough. | ||
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Cranberries
Wales567 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img33.imageshack.us/i/img9647q.jpg/) Proof, or are we still under the speculation that this is totally a scheduling problem? :D | ||
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monkey5476
United States133 Posts
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PraetorianX
Sweden780 Posts
This was the only interesting game today, so I won't be watching without it. | ||
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HEROwithNOlegacy
United States850 Posts
 . July fighting! | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On April 14 2011 09:58 Cranberries wrote: ![[image loading]](http://img33.imageshack.us/i/img9647q.jpg) Proof, or are we still under the speculation that this is totally a scheduling problem? :D The point is not whether White-ra went to the party I hope that is already established as a fact. But that does not say anything about why he did he decided not to play. And it is scheduling problem anyway, because it was scheduled on the same day and even on the same hour as DH tournament. | ||
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Qaatar
1409 Posts
No shows happen all the time in other tournaments - the FXOpens for example. Someone doesn't show, they wait a little bit, and then it's a walkover. TheSTC couldn't get a localizer to work at a PC Cafe, his internet was down at home - none of which was his fault, and he still promptly informed the organizers. They understandably waited a bit, but nonetheless awarded the walkover to his opponent. The only difference here is that there are viewers who are paying customers - but it's not like this is the only match. Plenty of people are talking about how great a deal it is (25 bucks for 3 months of matches). One less match can't hurt. Edit: On April 14 2011 10:03 PraetorianX wrote: Not cool. Why not just give the win to White-Ra? It's not his fault, not even a little bit. Why couldn't you just play the game a different day, when White-Ra has a computer? The Dreamhack Finals was 2 days ago. I don't see how they could conflict. This was the only interesting game today, so I won't be watching without it. Give the win to White-Ra after they couldn't even contact him? Are you kidding? So one guy who shows up to the match, waits 4 hours, and the other guy doesn't. We still don't know what extenuating circumstances Ra encountered - there are people in this thread who apparently have relatives who partied with Ra after Dreamhack. If that's the truth, and if this match was indeed scheduled during that time period, it's completely Ra's fault. | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On April 14 2011 10:03 PraetorianX wrote: Not cool. Why not just give the win to White-Ra? It's not his fault, not even a little bit. Why couldn't you just play the game a different day, when White-Ra has a computer? The Dreamhack Finals was 2 days ago. I don't see how they could conflict. You didn't even think for a single second before making that post, right? Might also want to read the thread... | ||
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PraetorianX
Sweden780 Posts
On April 14 2011 09:52 Coolbeans wrote: if all matches are pre recorded anyway what is the big problem with playing off replays when they run into a schedule conflict like dreamhack and other big events? Yeah, why couldn't they just played the game yesterday? Or better yet, why not just play it LIVE? Or do NASL feel they can't handle an actual live game? It just feels so arrogant from their side not to be extra flexible in this matter. | ||
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Cranberries
Wales567 Posts
On April 14 2011 10:05 mcc wrote: The point is not whether White-ra went to the party I hope that is already established as a fact. But that does not say anything about why he did he decided not to play. And it is scheduling problem anyway, because it was scheduled on the same day and even on the same hour as DH tournament. Yeah. Finding a time when a Korean, two Americans, as well as Whitera ... As well as all the other players on the same day for NASL Day 1-2 to play and streamline efficiently so it can be broadcasted in a polished manner sure is easy. Wait, what? | ||
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
On April 14 2011 10:07 PraetorianX wrote: Yeah, why couldn't they just played the game yesterday? Or better yet, why not just play it LIVE? Or do NASL feel they can't handle an actual live game? It just feels so arrogant from their side not to be extra flexible in this matter. yeah if the nhl and nba can rearrange their "match times" when the Olympics are running...nasl should beable to reschedule for big lans... | ||
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S.O.L.I.D.
United States792 Posts
On April 14 2011 09:53 maganez wrote: it's hard to call White-Ra and Naniwa "Pros" with such unprofessional attitudes. That's the reason people don't take seriously E-sports, what a shame. Naniwa maybe, but White-Ra? No. From what I've heard from EVERYONE in the community, he's a very nice guy and professional, and this is the first and only thing of this nature that I've heard from him. Yeah it's his fault but to criticize his integrity over one thing is something completely different and it's unwarranted imo. Also Nani is doing a good job cleaning up his act as of late. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
Considering that White-Ra is such a great player and such a nice guy, I think he'll just brush off the incident like nothing and boss-mode his way through the rest of the group stages. Heck, perhaps White-Ra's forfeit will end up like Dreiven's BBQ incident from TSL1. | ||
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DImported
Australia149 Posts
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NovaTheFeared
United States7222 Posts
On April 14 2011 10:09 S.O.L.I.D. wrote: Naniwa maybe, but White-Ra? No. From what I've heard from EVERYONE in the community, he's a very nice guy and professional, and this is the first and only thing of this nature that I've heard from him. Yeah it's his fault but to criticize his integrity over one thing is something completely different and it's unwarranted imo. Also Nani is doing a good job cleaning up his act as of late. Ra has been dirtying his squeaky clean image lately with a lot of BM after losing like calling his opponent's strats brainless. | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On April 14 2011 10:08 Cranberries wrote: Yeah. Finding a time when a Korean, two Americans, as well as Whitera ... As well as all the other players on the same day for NASL Day 1-2 to play and streamline efficiently so it can be broadcasted in a polished manner sure is easy. Wait, what? Should I again requote 3 easy solutions to rescheduling problem that I already posted ? I will use just one. Why not let White-ra and July play earlier and cast from replays. I highly doubt White-ra and July would be incapable of finding the time to play, especially since EU time and KST have a lot of day overlap and you just need to find one referee to be present for the game, which can be any trustworthy European, Korean or even American and it would not be hard to find such a person. | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On April 14 2011 10:07 PraetorianX wrote: Yeah, why couldn't they just played the game yesterday? Or better yet, why not just play it LIVE? Or do NASL feel they can't handle an actual live game? Because they have schedules too and can't just go willy nilly and cast the games in a random order? Doyou actually have any idea how stressful it is to run a massive tournament like the NASL? Look at the sheer amount of games they have to organize, cast, record, produce and stream... Then they also have to communicate with all the players, if everyone comes up with some excuse not to play their games this tournament will start to fall apart real soon... If you run a tournament this big you have to have strict rules and enforce them, with waiting 4hours they already did more than many other tournaments would have done. | ||
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QuixoticO
Netherlands810 Posts
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PraetorianX
Sweden780 Posts
On April 14 2011 10:05 FliedLice wrote: You didn't even think for a single second before making that post, right? Might also want to read the thread... I did read the thread. White-Ra was unavailable for the game, which was totally understandable considering the circumstances. The point is, they should have rescheduled instead of just awarding the win to July. Also, I'm sure White-Ra had a perfectly reasonable explanation for everything that happened. | ||
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