EPT[NASL] July awarded 2-0 victory over White-Ra - Page 16
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
On April 14 2011 07:52 TooN wrote: What are the point of rules if people are free to break it. The game is played on a set time and a 45 minute grace time is given. You don't show up, the other player should be given the win. White Ra is not a special person that NASL should tweak something for him. Sure, White Ra was busy and had another tourney. No special action should happen. Things aren't black-and-white like this. Things should not go "by the book" if there is a more humane, doable, and agreeable solution. They obviously understood that there could be a pretty huge conflict that they did not prepare for despite the fact that they should have, and they felt that it was only fair to let him have an extended grace period. It doesn't matter that it was White-Ra. July could have been at the finals, and they would have acted in the same way. | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On April 14 2011 08:10 LuckyFool wrote: I can't believe nasl admins couldn't just delay this match.... I know its a tight schedule but seriously there are times for exceptions and this would have been one of those times. wow. they were willing to delay it for 4 hours instead of the regular 45minutes... and if they already make an exception like this on their second day, it will be utter chaos in a few weeks because every player will come and say "THIS THE TIME FOR AN EXCEPTION!", you did it for him, do it for me! | ||
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zestzorb
Thailand776 Posts
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alexhard
Sweden317 Posts
On April 14 2011 08:15 FliedLice wrote: they were willing to delay it for 4 hours instead of the regular 45minutes... and if they already make an exception like this on their second day, it will be utter chaos in a few weeks because every player will come and say "THIS THE TIME FOR AN EXCEPTION!", you did it for him, do it for me! No doubt. But NASL is in the business of selling entertainment. Skipping matches like that doesn't provide any. And it was one of the best matchups for the ENTIRE thing. People are obviously more excited for white-ra v. July than they are for darkforce vs cruncher. Not saying they're bad players, but they don't have the same fan-magnet star-status. Now if white-ra said he'd be there and then just didn't show up I suppose it's a reasonable decision, but the game shouldn't have been scheduled on the same day as dreamhack in the first place. | ||
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Nemuru
Canada19 Posts
anyway gl july in the next round | ||
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ElusoryX
Singapore2047 Posts
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
On April 14 2011 08:21 Nemuru wrote: anyway gl july in the next round Just in case you misunderstood, White-Ra isn't eliminated, he just loses this series. If this was during the final ro16 tournament, then yes he would be eliminated but this is just a round 1 loss for him in his group. Its not a big deal. Respect to July though for waiting 4 hours. Thats unfortunate that White-Ra couldn't make it, but shit happens. | ||
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Thrill
2599 Posts
Can't help but feel this is something that could have been rescheduled earlier. | ||
Wunder
United Kingdom2950 Posts
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Cranberries
Wales567 Posts
The only person to blame here is Whitera. | ||
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YoonHo
Canada1043 Posts
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Fyrex
Canada102 Posts
Would've loooved that match. | ||
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ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
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LuckyFool
United States9016 Posts
On April 14 2011 08:15 FliedLice wrote: they were willing to delay it for 4 hours instead of the regular 45minutes... and if they already make an exception like this on their second day, it will be utter chaos in a few weeks because every player will come and say "THIS THE TIME FOR AN EXCEPTION!", you did it for him, do it for me! Only giving 4 hours for a player who was literally traveling home from dreamhack at that time isn't very accommodating in my opinion. And you don't think a player traveling because he was in the finals of dreamhack is a valid enough exception to delay a match for a day or two? Why couldn't they have played in advance too? There are so many other ways to make sure matches get played other than a walkover which should be the absolute last resort... It should be the NASL's primary goal that matches get played, considering that without matches there's no NASL. What's worse, no game, or a game a day late? | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On April 14 2011 08:15 FliedLice wrote: they were willing to delay it for 4 hours instead of the regular 45minutes... and if they already make an exception like this on their second day, it will be utter chaos in a few weeks because every player will come and say "THIS THE TIME FOR AN EXCEPTION!", you did it for him, do it for me! If White-ra informed them about DH more than week in advance , they should have rescheduled, because there is such a high possibility of this happening. In any case poor scheduling by NASL. The match was scheduled before finals of DH ended ? In that case talking about waiting for White-ra for 4h is kind of strange. The final decision is ok, but the scheduling decision is bad if they were informed about DH in advance. There is reasonable adherence to rules and blind adherence. Scheduling non-live matches of the player that is attending big tournament and it is known that he is for the same day is the bad kind of adherence to the rules. But in the end we don't really have much info about this case, since NASL decision does not say when they were informed about DH, we do not know what White-ra thought was going to happen, especially since his English is not 100%. So in the end, the decision is ok, but next time maybe schedule things slightly better ? | ||
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akalarry
United States1978 Posts
is 4am when the koreans normally play for these online tournaments like tsl and nasl? what time is it for the europeans and north americans? | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On April 14 2011 08:24 Cranberries wrote: The problem here is that Whitera, unlike Sjow, decided to go to the Dreamhack Afterparty and get ... very drunk. That's his choice and that's fine but July, on the other hand, chose to wake up at 4am and give Whitera 4 hours time to answer several emails and a phone call. The only person to blame here is Whitera. Well if all the times match , then NASL actually scheduled the match before final of DH ended, which is very strange scheduling. | ||
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Cranberries
Wales567 Posts
On April 14 2011 08:30 akalarry wrote: out of curiosity, is 4am when the koreans normally play for these online tournaments like tsl and nasl? what time is it for the europeans and north americans? In this scenario 4am Korean Time is around 9pm Swedish time. The finals of DH finished at 21:45~ Swedish time (45 minutes, so that's fine). Whitera then spent approximately 15 minutes on stage signing autographs, pictures. Afterwards he went to the DH afterparty. It's entirely his fault. He easily had enough time to play. | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On April 14 2011 08:27 LuckyFool wrote: Only giving 4 hours for a player who was literally traveling home from dreamhack at that time isn't very accommodating in my opinion. you don't even know he was traveling home right after the event, what the fuck. there are actually people on the thread saying he was going to an afterparty following the event... | ||
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