EPT[NASL] July awarded 2-0 victory over White-Ra - Page 14
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Uhh Negative
United States1090 Posts
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On April 14 2011 07:06 -Jambi- wrote: Another issue is the fact that Julyzerg had to wake up at 4 am..... aren't there better times to arrange for both players? I mean why make the players suffer just so Americans can watch it live, spectators will always be able to watch the vods anytime just like its live, but making players play at unreasonable times will only result in worse matches. watch it live? that makes no sense at all.. dreamhack was yesterday and the broadcast of the game in question would have been today. you don't watch it live, it gets casted while the game is happening and broadcasted a day after that still means tho that when they have matches between EU and KR they have to manage 3 time zones... European time for one player, Korean time for the other one and Westcoast-US time for the NASL guys... it's just inevitable for someone to play in the middle of the night i assume i really understand why there are any discussions or confusion about this at all... the info NASL put out explains everything perfectly fine :| | ||
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.Aar
2177 Posts
On April 14 2011 07:03 dkream wrote: LOL is this comment for real? Iunno why im even bothering to write on this but July's been in scene forever now and knows what's up. He acted like professional and chose to wait for white-ra for 4 hours. And 4 hours is more than even a professional should be expected to wait. July acted like a friend. He is completely blameless in this entire situation and gets a big shiny gold star in my book. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On April 14 2011 05:15 ch33psh33p wrote: A 4 hour wait period seems more than fair. Thats very fair imo. Sad to see but oh well | ||
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Shirohige
Germany398 Posts
But seems like a fair decision  Lookin forward to the other games. | ||
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Agnosthar
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Nightkaira
Singapore412 Posts
But. Lol juat check those mails =P | ||
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luftrofl
United States27 Posts
after waking up at 4:00 am to play his match and waiting patiently for 4 hours wow, x_x I can't even get to bed by 4am | ||
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Philo
United States337 Posts
I mean for Christ's sake "He Cares" about each and every one of us. Nah but for serious, thats sad, fair call though. | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13430 Posts
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oncewasblind
United States22 Posts
On April 14 2011 05:18 Turgid wrote: Yeah that's really sad. I suppose these things happen though. Didn't... Kyrix? Or maybe it was MarineKing... someone showed up really late for their GSL match in like GSL2 and they nearly gave it to the other person. Kyrix showed up late for GSL2 R16 against MKP. Thankfully they let him play, because that was an amazing series. I still show my friends match 1, where MKP unveiled his amazing marine micro to win against mass banelings. | ||
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sushiman
Sweden2691 Posts
On April 14 2011 07:09 Rokk wrote: What time do you suggest a Korean, European, and 2 Americans get together to play a best of 3? And how do you suggest the NASL handles possible rescheduling of their 200+ matches? Around 24.00 GMT would probably the most reasonably time - 08.00 in Korea, 15.00-18.00 depending on where you are in the US. 07.00-08.00 GMT would also work, but I doubt the US casters would work at that time. It's an understandable decision, but better scheduling for the players would be prefered since they're in different timezones and have to play on very inconvenient times to accomodate the american casters/players. As for White-Ra missing out, it's not surprising. When the finals were over, he was already 1h overdue for his match against July, and probably had to stick around for a while for interviews and whatnot. Sending an email isn't really efficient if he didn't have a computer to check it, and a single phone call is easily missed - nevermind actually finding an IT-café in Stockholm late at night. Maybe they should have games between EU and KR casted from someone in Europe or Korea instead - probably hard to implement right now, but would allow the players to play at better times when waiting for 4 hours isn't that big an issue. Should be considered for future games. | ||
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
I love white-ra so much, but I can't find any fault in NASL or July for this. | ||
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Sarang
Australia2363 Posts
There's absolutely no reason to hate on July. Yeah, it kinda sucks for the fans, but that's White Ra's fault just as much (I'd argue more) as it is July's. After getting up at 4am and waiting 4 hours on top of that, he's perfectly entitled to take the win without receiving any flak for it. | ||
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
Glad to see almost unanimous support for their decision here. WhiteRa will probably still clean up the rest of his group too with his special tactics. | ||
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aztrorisk
United States896 Posts
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mprs
Canada2933 Posts
Imagine if you had to wait through this... <3 NASL. Take constructive criticism and ignore the haters! | ||
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Ancient.eu
Romania621 Posts
A forfeit for not showing for unknown reasons is ok, but for not showing because of being in the finals of a global invitational, that is ridiculous. NASL is a 3 month long tournament, of course there will be scheduling conflicts with other tournaments during this long time. As long as you are notified by the player in advance, simply reschedule the match, what's so complicated about that ? | ||
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dkream
Canada36 Posts
I hate to see players being put on a tough spot and having to making decisions. This 4 hour wait, whether it was voluntary part by July or not, should not have occured on the first place. Both White-ra and NASL were aware of possible schedule conflict and something needed to be done beforehand instead of having a player wait in obsecurity. They should have stick to their rules(and yes I am aware of the reason for extending waiting time stated in OP) and mores strict when it comes to enforcing them, giving no exception. Once they start bending rules, it is always easier to bend for second time. Also July should've given the win instead of him opting that choice. NASL is running the show and should never transfer the responsibility to players. In my opinion, in case of similar event, NASL should step up and call the shots instead of giving players choice and possibly leaving bad impression on spectators that might not take this too fondly. | ||
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