EPT[NASL] July awarded 2-0 victory over White-Ra - Page 13
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Rokk
United States425 Posts
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Rokk
United States425 Posts
On April 14 2011 06:44 Pirat6662001 wrote: Oh, also anyone who actually saw dreamhack saw White-RA RUNNING out after the finals were done, so he obviously tried to make it. This seems pretty baseless when the NASL said they send him two emails and a phone call during the 4 hours, all of which went unanswered. | ||
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mdma-_-
Nauru1213 Posts
They must've known for weeks that whitera's/sjow's matches might clash with dreamhack. Why didnt they just reschedule them beforehand ??? | ||
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LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
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FreddYCooL
Sweden415 Posts
On April 14 2011 06:59 Rokk wrote: This seems pretty baseless when the NASL said they send him two emails and a phone call during the 4 hours, all of which went unanswered. Whitera did not run from the stage, he signed autographs and took photos and was interviewed and all that good stuff! WhiteRa is a great player and probably my favourite protoss in the world but he knew that he had to play and he didnt show up, if you dont show up you lose. Its as simple as that | ||
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dkream
Canada36 Posts
On April 14 2011 06:34 Nerdslayer wrote: Dude Julyzerg like many other pros knows that the esport scene is all about the fans. Taking a free win is like saying screw you fans. He should have done the only thing in the book and that would have been a a match in another time. I promise you if the situation has been reversed White-RA would have asked for a rematch, LOL is this comment for real? Iunno why im even bothering to write on this but July's been in scene forever now and knows what's up. He acted like professional and chose to wait for white-ra for 4 hours. IF we were to blame someone for unprofessionalism, it would be white-ra buddy. He was (well-)aware of schedule conflict and did not respond to phone call and emails. Had he contacted them in any ways, (or responded) July could've avoided all the hassle he went through in the early morning. Had this been reversed, White-ra getting up at 4am waiting for hours in uncertainty, I wouldn't be surprised to see White-ra doing the same thing. There's nothing wrong with taking the win here as far as I see | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On April 14 2011 07:00 mdma-_- wrote: its quite sad that nasl doesnt manage ahead for this. They must've known for weeks that whitera's/sjow's matches might clash with dreamhack. Why didnt they just reschedule them beforehand ??? We discussed postponing it, but that is something we really can’t do with such an aggressive broadcast schedule. they got 50 players and 200-something matches, if everyone comes up with something like "i can't be there then and then sorry, pls reschedule" the tournament would be a bloody mees in terms of organization | ||
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peeeky
Canada631 Posts
On April 14 2011 07:00 mdma-_- wrote: its quite sad that nasl doesnt manage ahead for this. They must've known for weeks that whitera's/sjow's matches might clash with dreamhack. Why didnt they just reschedule them beforehand ??? I don't understand why you are putting all the blame on the organization itself. WhiteRa applied to be part of the NASL, I'm guessing that means he abides by their rules and scheduling. The fault is definitely with him, I am sure he could have renegotiated a time earlier on. That being said, I'm a big fan of WhiteRa and it is unfortunate that the times of these tournaments conflicted, | ||
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-Jambi-
United States60 Posts
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
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DivinO
United States4796 Posts
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On April 14 2011 06:17 ComusLoM wrote: I can totally understand White-Ra going out for a few drinks after an exhausting day. Shame he didn't get to contact the NASL to say he would forfeit. On the other hand I'm very impressed with July for actually waiting a whole four hours. Of course he accepts the free win, I mean when else would the series be played? Also a free win in such a big tournament against one of the best protosses? Hell yes. Hmm, when July woke up at 4am, it would've been 9pm in Sweden. (The time when the finals started). Regarding the length of the finals, and autogram session with fans / interviews & stuff I doubt White-Ra could leave before 11pm (or arrive at the LAN centre before 11pm) Since this was 2hours after the scheduled match (and regarding the 45min grace period) maybe he thought he already lost? I dont know if it was communicated to White-Ra that the grace period was extended (before those mails & phonecalls he missed). Could just be bad luck for all sides. Though in regards to future NASLs, could they not schedule X days (5?) after the division phase (but prior to the LAN phase) where all missed games will be played? (And if one cannot show up then, he will autolose). And if there arent enough matches to fill those 2 days, rebroadcast some epic old games or do a "Best of Division X" kind of video (one for each day). Would be nice to hype the LAN phase, because I think I might've forgotten some of the earlier matches/days when we're mid June  | ||
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FreddYCooL
Sweden415 Posts
On April 14 2011 07:06 -Jambi- wrote: Why not just make the wait time 15 minutes, after that have a reschedule, and if they fail to show for the reschedule then award forfeit.... This seems like a cop out by everybody considering NASL knew of dreamhack, yet didn't reschedule immediately. This is probably going to be a continuous major problem with having 5 matches everyday especially since a lot of the players are from around the world competing in various tournaments, and have to go about their daily lives. Too many forfeit games and the league will be seen as a big failure. Another issue is the fact that Julyzerg had to wake up at 4 am..... aren't there better times to arrange for both players? I mean why make the players suffer just so Americans can watch it live, spectators will always be able to watch the vods anytime just like its live, but making players play at unreasonable times will only result in worse matches. NASL will be having games almost every day for 3 months, thay cannot reschedule every time a player has to attend another event. WhiteRa agreed to follow the rules and schedules when he signed up to NASL. In the end it is just one series, whitera should be able to make it out of his group easily and i will be cheering for him since he is my favourite | ||
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mdma-_-
Nauru1213 Posts
On April 14 2011 07:03 peeeky wrote: I don't understand why you are putting all the blame on the organization itself. WhiteRa applied to be part of the NASL, I'm guessing that means he abides by their rules and scheduling. The fault is definitely with him, I am sure he could have renegotiated a time earlier on. That being said, I'm a big fan of WhiteRa and it is unfortunate that the times of these tournaments conflicted, they knew that he played dreamhack. I just dont understand why they couldnt schedule the game one day or so earlier and then edit it into todays show. Shouldnt be to much of a problem tbh. | ||
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
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Count9
China10928 Posts
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Baerinho
Germany257 Posts
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korona
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Rokk
United States425 Posts
On April 14 2011 07:06 -Jambi- wrote: Why not just make the wait time 15 minutes, after that have a reschedule, and if they fail to show for the reschedule then award forfeit.... This seems like a cop out by everybody considering NASL knew of dreamhack, yet didn't reschedule immediately. This is probably going to be a continuous major problem with having 5 matches everyday especially since a lot of the players are from around the world competing in various tournaments, and have to go about their daily lives. Too many forfeit games and the league will be seen as a big failure. Another issue is the fact that Julyzerg had to wake up at 4 am..... aren't there better times to arrange for both players? I mean why make the players suffer just so Americans can watch it live, spectators will always be able to watch the vods anytime just like its live, but making players play at unreasonable times will only result in worse matches. What time do you suggest a Korean, European, and 2 Americans get together to play a best of 3? And how do you suggest the NASL handles possible rescheduling of their 200+ matches? | ||
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