EPTMLG Columbus 2011 - Sill adding it as we speak, so forgive me if it's a little wonkey for the next few hours.
If there's a vod missing, or a higher quality vod available, please let me know. This is a community activity!
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Koibu0
United States513 Posts
MLG Columbus 2011 - Sill adding it as we speak, so forgive me if it's a little wonkey for the next few hours. If there's a vod missing, or a higher quality vod available, please let me know. This is a community activity! | ||
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Koibu0
United States513 Posts
It's super simple cut and paste, so if you want to help out, PM me and I'll make you a Mod* so you can edit the information (after a brief chat so I can get to know you a little better.) *Being a mod infers no extra goodies, nor does it grant access to any back end information or properties, aside from the page to edit player information. | ||
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Techno
1900 Posts
I think it could be neat if you added some comments feature to each game so people could discuss the games. | ||
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Koibu0
United States513 Posts
On June 10 2011 03:13 Techno wrote: Looks like a pretty proffessional site, well done. I think it could be neat if you added some comments feature to each game so people could discuss the games. I've been thinking about it, but I don't want to have to moderate pages and pages of comments, and I want to keep everything spoiler free. If I just ban people from comments if they spoil, or are jerks, then they could make a new account to get back in the comments, and then they'll end up double rating stuff, which is bad. If I can find a solution to the spam/troll/spoiler problem that permits comments, I will add them in, but so far I haven't figured it out. P.S. I'm open to suggestions. Please feel free to discuss here. | ||
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Koibu0
United States513 Posts
It's going to be pretty small, and pretty informal, but everybody is invited. If you want in, PM me and I'll see you get added to the call. | ||
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Koibu0
United States513 Posts
sc2ratings.com has been working with sc2brackets.com for the last week to bring you some cross site compatibility. All the GSL seasons, as well as MLG, NASL, TSL, and IPL now have the beautiful tournament brackets created by the very talented folks at sc2brackets.com. You can see it live on the GLS 6 page, and then go and take a look at the compelling bracket game going on at sc2brackets. Sorry to be spamming this thread so hard, it just so happens that a lot of things happened to be coming to fruition today. | ||
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Koibu0
United States513 Posts
The Top List, our mechanism for sorting and finding matches, has now been updated to include the ability to search by race! Soon to come, search by name! (will be similar to the current "player finder", but instead do a blanket list for all their matches, ordered by best rated match, rather than put into groups by tournament. Also will not show stats) Tell your friends, and you can find us on facebook, or follow us on twitter @sc2ratings http://sc2ratings.com/test/sort-matches.php | ||
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Koibu0
United States513 Posts
Anybody else that wants to join in our call and help shape the future of SC2ratings.com should PM me right now. Productive conversation | ||
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Koibu0
United States513 Posts
Fixed a bug that would prevent you from staying logged in longer than 20minutes. Started some statistic gathering. Here are some interesting results Votes Total: 3816 Today: 183 Last 24 Hours: 183 Distribution of votes Score of 1: 338 - 8.86% Score of 2: 539 - 14.12% Score of 3: 961 - 25.18% Score of 4: 1131 - 29.64% Score of 5: 847 - 22.20% Top 10% of matches have a score of: 4.4000 Top 50% of matches have a score of: 3.4444 Top 90% of matches have a score of: 2.0000 As you can see, an 'average' match is a 3.4, and a really good match is a 4.4+. I've updated the color coding system to reflect this new data: 1 < Red < 2 < Black < 3.44 < Blue < 4.4 < Green < 5 Periodically I'll check these numbers, and if they change, I'll change the color coding system to reflect this. I'm also thinking about changing it to top 15% are green and bottom 15% are red, so that might happen sometime too. | ||
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LotsofLuck
United States62 Posts
-the more people use the site, the better it will become -djWheat would like having a 1-10 scale as opposed to a 1-5 scale, to give the scorer more choice and ability to accurately score the game. His argument was there's a big difference between a 4/5 and a 7/10. Thoughts: -Great, more publicity is always great :D, although it sounded like when djWheat mentioned in on the stream, the site was down, either due to overload your bandwidth, or just down for maintenance... -Scoring system: While I can see djWheat's point about 7-10 gives more flexibly, how do/would we re-structure the scoring to take into account the current system. Would all 1,2,3,4,5 become 2,4,6,8,10 respectively? This is definitely something that we can poll about, but if you want to make that change I would do it sooner rather then later to avoid confusion. Also, something that isn't such a half bad idea is you could try calling into Weapon of Choice/emailing him & see what question he would like to see on sc2ratings in the future. The worst thing that happens is he doesn't respond, and you are no worse off them you started  Previous post:+ Show Spoiler + On June 14 2011 12:14 Koibu0 wrote: Update Fixed a bug that would prevent you from staying logged in longer than 20minutes. Started some statistic gathering. Here are some interesting results Votes Total: 3816 Today: 183 Last 24 Hours: 183 Distribution of votes Score of 1: 338 - 8.86% Score of 2: 539 - 14.12% Score of 3: 961 - 25.18% Score of 4: 1131 - 29.64% Score of 5: 847 - 22.20% Top 10% of matches have a score of: 4.4000 Top 50% of matches have a score of: 3.4444 Top 90% of matches have a score of: 2.0000 As you can see, an 'average' match is a 3.4, and a really good match is a 4.4+. I've updated the color coding system to reflect this new data: 1 < Red < 2 < Black < 3.44 < Blue < 4.4 < Green < 5 Periodically I'll check these numbers, and if they change, I'll change the color coding system to reflect this. I'm also thinking about changing it to top 15% are green and bottom 15% are red, so that might happen sometime too. Great! I like the change, good idea about changing that. I think you got the massive spike in votes from the mention on Weapon of Choice. I also loved the ability to search by race in the top listing! It would be great to also search by tournaments as well, but great work  I'll be sure to update some bios tonight. | ||
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Koibu0
United States513 Posts
On June 14 2011 12:21 LotsofLuck wrote: -djWheat would like having a 1-10 scale as opposed to a 1-5 scale, to give the scorer more choice and ability to accurately score the game. His argument was there's a big difference between a 4/5 and a 7/10. This is something I've gone back and forth on a lot. To be honest, the deciding factor was space: at the time the layout was so bulky as to not permit having 10 voting icons in a row, but it might be able to handle it. Poll: Should the format change from x/5 to x/10?, and if so, how do we upgrade them to the new 10 based system? Do we just double them? [2,4,6,8,10] or do we try to spread them out in a way that punishes low votes and rewards high votes? [1, 3, 5, 8, 10] or somewhere in between? [1,3,5,7,9] or [1, 3, 6, 8, 10] + Show Spoiler + Poll: Should sc2ratings.com have ratings out of 5 or 10? Keep it as is: x / 5 (11) Change to x / 10: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 -> 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 (2) Change to x / 10: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 -> 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 (1) Change to x / 10: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 -> 1, 3, 5, 8, 10 (1) Change to x / 10: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 -> 1, 3, 6, 8, 10 (1) 16 total votes Your vote: Should sc2ratings.com have ratings out of 5 or 10? (Vote): Keep it as is: x / 5 If the total of the 4 x/10 options is greater than x/5, I'll take whichever x/10 option has the most votes. | ||
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FaZ-
United States188 Posts
If you can only have 5 options for each game then just keep it at 1 through 5. The suggestion is to have 10 options. | ||
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Koibu0
United States513 Posts
Sorry for being unclear, and thanks for bringing it to my attention. | ||
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g3d
United States19 Posts
I have one question though, is it intentional that there is no "mark as seen" option for vods? Is it to encourage people to vote instead? | ||
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dala
Sweden477 Posts
I really appreciate your work and have been trying to give my feedback to you at multiple previous occasions. I really hope that your site will grow and become the go-to place for all SC2 VOD viewers. When I read about the clever color coding a few posts up, I was pleasantly surprised. That is a very smart way of doing it and not restrict yourself to divide the colors in integer steps. Perhaps you can also introduce a "least number of votes" limit on the colors. One vote is not enough to rate the match in my opinion. I was also happy to hear DJ Wheat advertise your site. But I must strongly disagree with his argument for having a 1-10 scale. Here are my arguments: - A 5-step rating is common in other contexts, such as star rating of hotels and is therefore naturally intuitive to use. - As you mentioned in your post, the layout for 10 buttons would be very cumbersome to layout efficiently. - There is no one optimal way of transferring the old ratings to the new system. - Finally, a matter that also DJ Wheat himself touch upon is that, the current scale effectively have 50 steps! That is due to the decimal increments between the integers. Accuracy is therefore not a problem! So therefore I urge you to carefully reconsider before changing the rating system. Good luck with the development of the site and I will continue to give my feedback. Daniel | ||
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Koibu0
United States513 Posts
On June 17 2011 14:35 g3d wrote: You dear sir are my hero. Thank you very much! I have one question though, is it intentional that there is no "mark as seen" option for vods? Is it to encourage people to vote instead? I just haven't built out that implementation yet. It will be rolled out when I finish making up the profile and preferences pages and databases. The project is slow going since I can only work on it in my free time. On June 17 2011 15:14 dala wrote: Perhaps you can also introduce a "least number of votes" limit on the colors. One vote is not enough to rate the match in my opinion. Interesting idea. I'll put a poll up about it. How many votes do you think should be required before color coding? On June 17 2011 15:14 dala wrote: So therefore I urge you to carefully reconsider before changing the rating system.Daniel Thank you having a well stated and thought out argument. That is a rare and precious quality online. I'll take this into consideration when reviewing the poll data. | ||
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LotsofLuck
United States62 Posts
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lolsixtynine
United States600 Posts
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LotsofLuck
United States62 Posts
On June 19 2011 01:24 lolsixtynine wrote: This is a really cool idea but please please please do something about the huge unstylized text on the home page; it looks really unprofessional. For a site that otherwise looks so good, it looks very out of place. Also, the top rated doesn't work for me for some reason - something about an SQL error. As far as I know the site is in the process of getting a visual face lift. However, I'd say it's pretty impressive for what one dude has accomplished so far. Hmmm, do you have the actual error for the top rated? Was it for accessing the page itself or doing a specific search? | ||
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lolsixtynine
United States600 Posts
You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near ') GROUP BY matchId HAVING COUNT(matchId) >= 3 ORDER BY AVG(score)' at line 3" | ||
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