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LotsofLuck
Profile Joined May 2011
United States62 Posts
May 29 2011 18:00 GMT
#181
Yikes, you've been busy!

That's fine, I'm not really watching the EG Master's Cup

I do like the changes from IPL to Other, this allows for other tournaments without having to screw around with graphics. It is a bit of temporary fix, as you have "All Tournmanets" and "Other" pointing to the same link....this is definitely something you can play around with when you talk to a graphic designer....
Koibu0
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States513 Posts
May 31 2011 07:10 GMT
#182
On May 30 2011 03:00 LotsofLuck wrote:
Yikes, you've been busy!

That's fine, I'm not really watching the EG Master's Cup

I do like the changes from IPL to Other, this allows for other tournaments without having to screw around with graphics. It is a bit of temporary fix, as you have "All Tournmanets" and "Other" pointing to the same link....this is definitely something you can play around with when you talk to a graphic designer....


I was making so much progress, but then my girlfriend got back from Scotland, and there went the rest of my weekend =p She's promised to help with some data entry and stuff, which is totally rad.

As for "other" pointing to the same spot as "all tournaments", the logic behind it to make it show non NASL, GSL and TSL would be more messy than I'd like. Do you think it's a bad to have it point to All? When you see other, but it actually goes to All, is that frustrating or annoying? I mean, if it's actually annoying, I'll put in the work to get the logic right.

I'm pretty frustrated with a lot of these tournaments not having vods for everything, or even most things. It really kind of breaks what I set out to do here.
Koibu0
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States513 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-01 06:53:18
May 31 2011 22:09 GMT
#183
New Poll for extra match parameters:

Bad/Boring Casters
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Borring casters

Bad Idea (6)
 
60%

Good Idea (4)
 
40%

10 total votes

Your vote: Borring casters

(Vote): Good Idea
(Vote): Bad Idea



[edit] clarified the poll title. Sorry to the 1 person who voted in it, you'll have to re-vote.
Koibu0
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States513 Posts
June 01 2011 20:20 GMT
#184
Minor Update:
Streamlined the content a little bit.

Old:
3.5 / 5 (12 votes)

New:
3.5 (12)
LotsofLuck
Profile Joined May 2011
United States62 Posts
June 02 2011 16:26 GMT
#185
On May 31 2011 16:10 Koibu0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 03:00 LotsofLuck wrote:
Yikes, you've been busy!

That's fine, I'M not Really watching the EG MaSter's Cup

I do like the changes from IPL to Other, this allows for other tournaments without having to screw around with graphics. It is a bit of temporary fix, as you have "All Tournmanets" and "Other" pointing to the same Link....this is definitely something you can play around with when you talk to a graphic designer....


I was making so much progress, but then my girlfriend got back from Scotland, and there went the rest of my Weekend =p She's promised to help with some data entry and stuff, Which is totally rad.

As for "other" pointing to the same spot as "all tournaments", the logic behind it to make it show non NASL, GSL and TSL would be more messy than I'd like. Do you think it's a bad to have it Point to All? When you see other, but it Actually goes to All, is that frustrating or annoying? I mean, if it's Actually annoying, I'll put in the work to get the logic right.

I'M pretty frustrated with a lot of these tournaments not having vods for everything, or even most things. It Really kind of breaks what I set out to do here.

wOw, that's great! You sir, have an Awesome girlfriend. :D

Yea, not having VODs for anything kind of screws up a lot of the purpose of this website.

I don't think it is frustrating when you click Other it goes to all tournaments. I think people see there's more tournaments other then the main ones on the front page.

I do like the feature you added to see the rating for the overall series of games, but you might want to disable the feature when it is redundant. It works well for some of the Team Leagues (like here: http://www.sc2ratings.com/season-info.php?season=gsltl3&roundOf=8), but it is kind of redandant for some of the 2v2 or 1v1 matches (see here: http://www.sc2ratings.com/season-info.php?season=egmcs5&section=Week 2).
Koibu0
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States513 Posts
June 02 2011 16:44 GMT
#186
I do like the feature you added to see the rating for the overall series of games, but you might want to disable the feature when it is redundant. It works well for some of the Team Leagues (like here: http://www.sc2ratings.com/season-info.php?season=gsltl3&roundOf=8), but it is kind of redandant for some of the 2v2 or 1v1 matches (see here: http://www.sc2ratings.com/season-info.php?season=egmcs5&section=Week 2).


Good catch. I hadn't even thought about that, or realized it would come up. I'll get to that soon.
LotsofLuck
Profile Joined May 2011
United States62 Posts
June 02 2011 20:47 GMT
#187
Looks like your job is going to get more and more fun:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=229020

new tournmanets hosted by GeForce, casted with Day9 & Husky, Pro & Amatuer levels, something like $20,000 prize pool (and computers for winning, pretty cool!)
Koibu0
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States513 Posts
June 02 2011 21:01 GMT
#188
Excellent. The more content the better
LotsofLuck
Profile Joined May 2011
United States62 Posts
June 03 2011 06:04 GMT
#189
I know this goes under the "better searching" plans for the future, but one thing you might consider for the ranking page, is to set an interval for how recently you want matches to display. The top list is great and all, but you have to get a little creative to see highly rated matches that already haven't been rated as amazing. Some of the TSL matches are great (and they are free :D), but it would be great to have an option to search for matches that have been played in the past week, 2 weeks, month, or whatever to give people a better ability to seek out good matches. Right now the top list serves as a Hall of Fame to the best matches, but that means it will stay pretty stagnant.
Koibu0
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States513 Posts
June 03 2011 06:33 GMT
#190
One of the plans is for people who are signed to have an option to not show matches they've already rated on the top list. That way, it's always a top list of games you haven't seen. This would be an easily toggle-able option, so you can always go back to the full list.

Along with this would be an option to only show matches from seasons which are free, or that you have a subscription too. In your profile you'd select which seasons / tournaments you've got a subscription of, and then in the top list (or whatever sorting mechanism we end up having) you can filter by that too.

Date would be a good thing to have in there as well, so I'll put in in for sure. I'm really excited about many of these features, but I'm just super swamped at work and with other activities now. I was in the office for 11 hours today, will be tomorrow, and then I'm sure I'll have to do at least 4 on Sat as well.

In other good news, I've had a chat with the guy running sc2brackets.com and we've worked something out so we'll have the brackets from their site up on sc2ratings.com as well :D :D :D

So, after another one of my patented ramblings where I jump topics quickly, there's a lot coming out soon... I just gotta find the time to make it happen.
Wren
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States745 Posts
June 03 2011 07:01 GMT
#191
This is EXACTLY the sort of thing I was hoping existed! Good luck keeping on top of all the insane quantity of content being produced!

It may be useful to add a category called "notable" for games that may or may not be well played, but are interesting in some other way (as an example, IdrA v Huk @ MLG was well-watched for the BM, not the play).
We're here! We're queer! We don't want any more bears!
Koibu0
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States513 Posts
June 03 2011 08:22 GMT
#192
Who needs sleep, right?

Update
Match sorting (aka Top List) now has the ability to remove matches you've rated from the list. I've also removed the sum of votes sort, because it seemed pretty lame.

Started framework for disabling seasons you don't have a subscription to. When that goes in, date will also go in (both require joining tables, so I'll do it all at the same time).
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
June 03 2011 08:31 GMT
#193
Great idea, man everyone around here is just so innovative and outgoing, awesome job man!
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
June 03 2011 08:33 GMT
#194
On June 01 2011 07:09 Koibu0 wrote:
New Poll for extra match parameters:

Bad/Boring Casters
(...)


That is a horrible idea. There are lots of people who hate on casters because they don't like their style and they will gladly vote "bad" whenever they see the names of those casters. On the other hand while there are far more people that like those casters, the fans (or better "not-haters") are far less likely to vote... so basically every match will end up as "bad/boring caster".


Also, you should mark matches as "not played", for example some of the Games of Artosis in the NASL.
LotsofLuck
Profile Joined May 2011
United States62 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 14:27:31
June 03 2011 14:24 GMT
#195
On June 03 2011 17:22 Koibu0 wrote:
Who needs sleep, right?

Update
Match sorting (aka Top List) now has the ability to remove matches you've rated from the list. I've also removed the sum of votes sort, because it seemed pretty lame.

Started framework for disabling seasons you don't have a subscription to. When that goes in, date will also go in (both require joining tables, so I'll do it all at the same time).

I don't know if there's a more elegant way to do implement this, but the box for which page number you would be on was a a little confusing to me. I don't know if there is a way you can see up a dynamic way to look at difference forum page numbers, but that seems like it would make more sense they just using the box.

Eh, in th end that's probably one of those to stick on the laundry list of what to do next though.

Morfildur wrote
That is a horrible idea. There are lots of people who hate on casters because they don't like their style and they will gladly vote "bad" whenever they see the names of those casters. On the other hand while there are far more people that like those casters, the fans (or better "not-haters") are far less likely to vote... so basically every match will end up as "bad/boring caster".

Couldn't agree more. There are some casters out there that I don't particularly like, but for the most part I'll watch games all the same. Let's not turn this into a hate-fest. :D

Excited about the brackets, that should help tons!
Koibu0
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States513 Posts
June 03 2011 15:21 GMT
#196
On June 03 2011 17:33 Morfildur wrote:
That is a horrible idea. There are lots of people who hate on casters because they don't like their style and they will gladly vote "bad" whenever they see the names of those casters. On the other hand while there are far more people that like those casters, the fans (or better "not-haters") are far less likely to vote... so basically every match will end up as "bad/boring caster".

Good point. This is why I ask you guys this stuff

On June 03 2011 17:33 Morfildur wrote:
Also, you should mark matches as "not played", for example some of the Games of Artosis in the NASL.

Right now, if you're logged in, it says "Match not yet played" in the voting area (where a person not logged in sees "login to vote"), but I don't see why I couldn't have that show up across the board too. I'll get to it later today.

Thanks so much for the feedback. Keep it coming.
Koibu0
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States513 Posts
June 03 2011 18:14 GMT
#197
On June 03 2011 23:24 LotsofLuck wrote:
I don't know if there's a more elegant way to do implement this, but the box for which page number you would be on was a a little confusing to me. I don't know if there is a way you can see up a dynamic way to look at difference forum page numbers, but that seems like it would make more sense they just using the box.

Eh, in th end that's probably one of those to stick on the laundry list of what to do next though.


Yeah, the page thing is pretty dumb. I've removed it until I have a better implementation. For now, if you want to display more matches, just change the number of matches box to 50 or something.
:/

But this is why I ask for feedback, because you guys have good criticisms! This is one of the few instances where somebody is asking you to tell them how they're doing things wrong, so why are you all holding back?
Koibu0
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States513 Posts
June 03 2011 22:43 GMT
#198
New Poll: Rage Quit / BM - For things like the Huk / IdrA game. I really hesitate on calling it "BM" because what I'm looking to cover by this rating is things where somebody get pissed and makes a horrible mistake as a result of it. Like quitting when they see a fleet of hallucinated void rays, or tapping out because they thought they didn't have any more works and no town hall (when there was really one lying about somewhere).

+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Rage Quite / BM

Good (13)
 
81%

Bad (3)
 
19%

16 total votes

Your vote: Rage Quite / BM

(Vote): Good
(Vote): Bad

Koibu0
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States513 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 01:48:04
June 04 2011 01:47 GMT
#199
New Poll: Lag / Pauses - When the vod is super long because of large amounts of lag / game needs to be paused or restarted. Think Incontrol vs Losira (probably still going on whenever you're reading this). Applied to games that are delayed by > 3 minutes.
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Delayed Game

Bad (1)
 
100%

Good (0)
 
0%

1 total votes

Your vote: Delayed Game

(Vote): Good
(Vote): Bad


Koibu0
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States513 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 22:39:21
June 06 2011 16:51 GMT
#200
What is the best way to link to the MLG vods? Perhaps better stated, is it acceptable to use the links from here, and just tell people they need to open it as a URL from VLC or something?
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