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Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
April 12 2011 20:58 GMT
#161
This was so well produced and well done it almost makes me a little proud to be Swedish. I can hardly find any things at all to fault them for, pretty much all of it was spot on. The only small criticism I have really is the extremely top heavy prize pool, but I'm sure they had their reasons for doing it this way.

What I will really take away from this is the proper high quality free stream. It was incredibly refreshing having one of the highest quality streams to date, and it being free on top of that. I feel this is something that other tournaments will need to copy if they wish to continue growing.
Quality matters to people, probably the new casual viewers more than the hardcore fans. The hardcore fans will either stand the grainy low quality streams other tournaments provide in order to enjoy the game, or be interested enough to be willing to spend some money on the higher quality streams.
Someone who doesn't have that level of interest in starcraft probably wont bother watching a blurry low quality stream, much less pay for something they don't know if they'll enjoy.

So huge props to Dreamhack, setting standards for foreign tournament casting all across the board.
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
April 12 2011 20:59 GMT
#162
One important thing to point out when comparing DH to MLG is that they are completely different types of organizations. Of course it easier to run a 8 player invitational than a big ass open tournament but there was so many things in this production that was irrelevant of that, like the interviews and such. My point is that MLG is a financially driven company which tries/is forced to cut corners wherever it can while DH is in it's core ran by volunteers. As someone said, it's fans doing it for fans. This event and at this quality would have been impossible if everyone involved would have been on a regular salary. MLG to my knowledge doesn't have a huge volunteer movement behind it, DH does. I know the LANs does at least.

I mean free HD stream, only 450 spectators at 15$ each, barely any commercials and this top notch production...it shouldn't be possible - but is thanks to an army of unknown heroes behind the scene.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
April 12 2011 21:00 GMT
#163
I thought it was very refreshing to not have Day9 cast / host for once. British people ftw <3
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
April 12 2011 21:00 GMT
#164
Yeah this was the most engrossing 6 or 7 hours I've had in a while. From 2GD to Demuslim to the crowd, to the technical backstage guys etc etc. Everything was awesome and I'm very impressed. Swedish SC2 fans should be proud they have DH because it was definitely the most fun I've had with a stream in many months.
starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
April 12 2011 21:00 GMT
#165
As far as game commentators GSL wins, but dreamhacks production was better.
fjjotizz
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden153 Posts
April 12 2011 21:01 GMT
#166
I was there, this was so fucking awesome. loved everything, huge cred to 2GD! The atmosphere was truly incredible. Thanks for an amazing event, I feel anxious that it's over..
"I'm a creepy guy. Tasteless, if it would make my units move faster, I would peek in everyones window in Seoul."
Trippledo
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden57 Posts
April 12 2011 21:05 GMT
#167
This was by far the greatest tournament I've watched, still it's easier doing an event in such a small scale. Great job however

Cant believe so few have heard of 2gd, he's a great entertainer, able to commentate basicly anygame (quake, bloodline champions, cs, wow, sc)
I guess not so many people are into simply esports, but rather focus on one game(in this case starcraft 2)
derp
growlizing
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway122 Posts
April 12 2011 21:05 GMT
#168
On April 13 2011 05:59 Longshank wrote:
One important thing to point out when comparing DH to MLG is that they are completely different types of organizations. Of course it easier to run a 8 player invitational than a big ass open tournament but there was so many things in this production that was irrelevant of that, like the interviews and such. My point is that MLG is a financially driven company which tries/is forced to cut corners wherever it can while DH is in it's core ran by volunteers. As someone said, it's fans doing it for fans. This event and at this quality would have been impossible if everyone involved would have been on a regular salary. MLG to my knowledge doesn't have a huge volunteer movement behind it, DH does. I know the LANs does at least.

I mean free HD stream, only 450 spectators at 15$ each, barely any commercials and this top notch production...it shouldn't be possible - but is thanks to an army of unknown heroes behind the scene.

Yes, I would not expect the exact same quality for the big tournament, but I am hoping it will be somewhat comparable.

I know the regular Dreamhacks are very heavily relying on volunteers, but was this one also this community driven? In that case, even more props to Dreamhack and the people behind it. Thank you.
TheEvilDog
Profile Joined February 2003
Sweden24 Posts
April 12 2011 21:08 GMT
#169
Fantastic tournament. Very good production, good casters and 2GD owning it up with his brilliant humor and interviews. Amazing crowd,no delays, no lag. This is what every event should be like!
Haggis
Profile Joined September 2010
Scotland104 Posts
April 12 2011 21:08 GMT
#170
Massive Props to the DH production team and 2GD.

I hope other tournament organisers were watching and taking notes!
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 21:09:22
April 12 2011 21:09 GMT
#171
On April 13 2011 06:05 growlizing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 05:59 Longshank wrote:
One important thing to point out when comparing DH to MLG is that they are completely different types of organizations. Of course it easier to run a 8 player invitational than a big ass open tournament but there was so many things in this production that was irrelevant of that, like the interviews and such. My point is that MLG is a financially driven company which tries/is forced to cut corners wherever it can while DH is in it's core ran by volunteers. As someone said, it's fans doing it for fans. This event and at this quality would have been impossible if everyone involved would have been on a regular salary. MLG to my knowledge doesn't have a huge volunteer movement behind it, DH does. I know the LANs does at least.

I mean free HD stream, only 450 spectators at 15$ each, barely any commercials and this top notch production...it shouldn't be possible - but is thanks to an army of unknown heroes behind the scene.

Yes, I would not expect the exact same quality for the big tournament, but I am hoping it will be somewhat comparable.

I know the regular Dreamhacks are very heavily relying on volunteers, but was this one also this community driven? In that case, even more props to Dreamhack and the people behind it. Thank you.

I don't think this was volunteer driven at all. They use them for their 11k people LAN, not for their 8-man invitational.
Imascotsman
Profile Joined October 2010
255 Posts
April 12 2011 21:10 GMT
#172
I was sitting on a vent server with 8 or so friends who were totally gripped by the action and production values of this event. Thanks for organising an event like this, i will keep following future events and in my next pc related purchase il support the companys who supported dreamhack.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
April 12 2011 21:14 GMT
#173
On April 13 2011 06:05 growlizing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 05:59 Longshank wrote:
One important thing to point out when comparing DH to MLG is that they are completely different types of organizations. Of course it easier to run a 8 player invitational than a big ass open tournament but there was so many things in this production that was irrelevant of that, like the interviews and such. My point is that MLG is a financially driven company which tries/is forced to cut corners wherever it can while DH is in it's core ran by volunteers. As someone said, it's fans doing it for fans. This event and at this quality would have been impossible if everyone involved would have been on a regular salary. MLG to my knowledge doesn't have a huge volunteer movement behind it, DH does. I know the LANs does at least.

I mean free HD stream, only 450 spectators at 15$ each, barely any commercials and this top notch production...it shouldn't be possible - but is thanks to an army of unknown heroes behind the scene.

Yes, I would not expect the exact same quality for the big tournament, but I am hoping it will be somewhat comparable.

I know the regular Dreamhacks are very heavily relying on volunteers, but was this one also this community driven? In that case, even more props to Dreamhack and the people behind it. Thank you.


I really don't know, DH is a professional organization - but is known to be backed by volunteers and esport/gaming fans. I can only assume that's how they were able to do this.

Alternatively they could have seen this event as an advert for their other projects like the LANs and didn't make a direct profit out of it. No idea.
SunTzuEU
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden221 Posts
April 12 2011 21:15 GMT
#174
Probably never been more proud of being a swede tbh. This was the best thing I have ever witnessed in sc2(I know I'm swedish and probably biased, but common, THIS is proffessionalism for you)

Makes me wonder why there isn't a Swedish StarLeague already? With the huge coverage this got from mainstream media it made me feel like I was living in Korea for a day, and I'm not even in Stockholm.

HUGE thanks to all the people involved in this! Please make a league now!!!
dmans
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden358 Posts
April 12 2011 21:16 GMT
#175
On April 13 2011 06:00 starcraft911 wrote:
As far as game commentators GSL wins, but dreamhacks production was better.


no

The English Archon > The casting archon.
Kentakky
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1272 Posts
April 12 2011 21:19 GMT
#176
Anyone know if the whole 8 hours or whatever will be available to watch in one big VoD? I want to watch the whole thing whenever I get some free time. I don't want to just click on Vod for next matches, interviews etc and miss possible fun stage stuff from this 2GD that everyone is enjoying.

Or maybe make a page with every bit of content possible from this so I don't have to go back and forth finding stuffz.

sad working panda ='(

nice to hear it was a so good though, gj dreamhacks!
My immune system is so strong that I have to get AIDS just to be normal.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
April 12 2011 21:21 GMT
#177
It was an amazing tournament , good job Dreamhack ! I think we're always here on the forum to complain when something goes wrong ( stream , delays , casters etc.) but this time everything was perfect.
Thanks a lot ,looking forward Dreamhack summer!
DruidzHistory
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden231 Posts
April 12 2011 21:22 GMT
#178
I don't know about the stream quality because i was there, however i must say that they treated the audience Very Very Very well. There were free coca colas everywhere and they had "fan meetings" with all the player where you could get stuff signed and they even had computers set up for people wanting to play some. Also they had a snack shop with reasonable prices. All and All just a great event:D
OOAK
Profile Joined October 2010
Israel53 Posts
April 12 2011 21:24 GMT
#179
Actually I experienced tons of lag in the stream, I think the Justin.tv just have bad streaming when it comes to the thousnds views.
When i`m watching TSL the stream is fine in the higher P.
Vectoor
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden62 Posts
April 12 2011 21:24 GMT
#180
On April 13 2011 06:16 dmans wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 06:00 starcraft911 wrote:
As far as game commentators GSL wins, but dreamhacks production was better.


no

The English Archon > The casting archon.


Sorry but no, the english archon was really good but no match for tastosis, no matter how awesome this tournament was.
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