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alepov
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands1132 Posts
April 12 2011 20:28 GMT
#121
2GD is a regular QL caster (an excellent one) and former quake player. Always entertaining, does great interviews, etc
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
JoxxOr
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden1502 Posts
April 12 2011 20:28 GMT
#122
On April 13 2011 05:10 On_Slaught wrote:
While I enjoyed watching this tourny, it is very unfair to compare it to massive endeavours like TSL, MLG, GSL, IEM etc. This tourny looked great for a few reasons:

1. The entire thing happened over the course of a few hours.

2. All of the players are top level. It's as if we skipped all the preliminary stuff in other tournies and jumped straight to the ro8.

3. Awesome crowd made everything more exciting.

Yes it seemed awesome, but objectively there is nothing that makes this tourny better than any others. 2nd place doesn't get anything... that is just bad imo. Yes the casting was fine, but it wasn't stellar. The obvs was almost "bad." I think a lot of people are looking at this with rose-colored glasses because they enjoyed the games and drama.

No this tournament actually had things that no other tournament had.

First the speed which the games were played was awesome. There were do dead time a la GSL, there were no 30 mins wait for a mouse to work. There were no CS 1.6, Quake Live or general dead time IEM. It was fast, smooth and awesome.

The production values in terms of overlays, interviews (both on swedish and english streams) were best, even better than GSL imo. Also the commercials werent as repetitive as MLG, and they actually mixed it with awesome songs and such.

While i do agree that the smaller scale defiently makes it easier, i think that with even a bigger staff(Which dreamhack Summer/winter has), we will hopefully se the same level of tournament from them again
Gör om, gör rätt
cnas
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden640 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 20:31:17
April 12 2011 20:30 GMT
#123
I love how the casters tackled the no sound-issue with comments like "It's the most silent Pheonix harass ever". I like how they poked fun of themselves and kept transparent about the issue, instead of just trying to ignore it.

I also liked the intelligent use of minimap pinging. This is good when it's used in moderation, and i absolutely think that Artosis should start to use it to help their observer finding the small things on the map.
One more game, bro's!
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
April 12 2011 20:30 GMT
#124
Although Dreamhack was amazing we can't forget the fact that they didn't have to deal with a multiple day production and did not have to deal with more than 8 players.

They did an amazing job but they didn't have to face some of the issues that the other tournaments have to deal with.
"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
April 12 2011 20:32 GMT
#125
On April 13 2011 05:30 Aegeis wrote:
Although Dreamhack was amazing we can't forget the fact that they didn't have to deal with a multiple day production and did not have to deal with more than 8 players.

They did an amazing job but they didn't have to face some of the issues that the other tournaments have to deal with.


That is not something that really has to do with stream production and content. And running a working lan, that is something dreamhack can do.
I am not young enough to know everything.
cocosoft
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1068 Posts
April 12 2011 20:33 GMT
#126
Amazing tournament, and nerve-wracking finals.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Gnarfle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden170 Posts
April 12 2011 20:33 GMT
#127
I loved this event. The casters really were brilliant, absolutely fantastic production and the dramas in the finals :D
Best even since the start of beta in my opinion, TSL3 finals might very well get better but so far, DHI has been fantastic.

/Gnarfle
andytb
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom180 Posts
April 12 2011 20:33 GMT
#128
The only element of today's broadcast I don't think is possible with more players is such tight scheduling in the early stages of a tournament. All other production elements can be carried over, and with having a host/MC like 2GD who can improv any additional downtime with crowd interaction, interviews, talking to the casters and previewing the schedule for the rest of the day.

The philosophy in my opinion should be 'We are broadcasting the stage experience' not 'We are broadcasting individual games' and that's what really showed through today :-)
Seikhor
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada116 Posts
April 12 2011 20:33 GMT
#129
Awsome event and production, loved it. Great work!
Exe_adrian
Profile Joined August 2010
46 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 20:34:53
April 12 2011 20:33 GMT
#130
I Agree and I was actually planning to make a similar thread with a poll on which foreign tournament people enjoyed the most with me voting for Dreamhack or DHI as you put it.

*note: do a poll just to see how many others enjoyed DHI*


As you said James”2GD” Harding's jokes were hilarious, right after the match between Sjow vs Huk, he goes: So Sjow we invited you to play in our 1vs1 tournament, and you play a 2vs1 with a Banshee? It's not fair. + Show Spoiler +
people who saw the game will get the joke, those who didn't saw the game, pray there will be vods since you missed a lot of great games.


Also again after Sjow vs White-Ra, he goes: "So Battlecruisers .. more like Battleloosers." lol


The casters were also awesome, I was really impressed by DeMusliM when he showed us that Sjow didn't even knew where White-Ra spawned on Crevasse after like 20 minutes of game time.



Really, really great event. Hope to see more high end production like this in the future.
Ohnoes92
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden76 Posts
April 12 2011 20:33 GMT
#131
It was the best i've ever seen soo far!

High-quality stream, well-planned, amazing host, great commentators and aswesome "sign-writer".

The only bad thing was the cameraman during the interwievs, since he couldn't hold the camera stable, MC's interpreter was also a bit shaky at times, but that is normal for a live show, (especially since didnt have any experience?)
Ohai!
DaggothReborn
Profile Joined October 2010
United States121 Posts
April 12 2011 20:33 GMT
#132
On April 13 2011 05:30 Aegeis wrote:
Although Dreamhack was amazing we can't forget the fact that they didn't have to deal with a multiple day production and did not have to deal with more than 8 players.

They did an amazing job but they didn't have to face some of the issues that the other tournaments have to deal with.


But i dont see that being a problem for DHI. The point is, they had the equipment, the talent, and the skill to do it. If DH Summer is this quality, it will go down in history.
nikj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada669 Posts
April 12 2011 20:36 GMT
#133
100% agree with this. I was so impressed to see the overall quality of this tourney. I've watched the MLG GSL, Blizzcon, and looking forward to the NASL later today. The Dreamhack production value left them all wanting. Hopefully these other leagues can take a page from the DHI.
Y'know sometimes people ask me y'know like "What's your religion and stuff?" And I'm like "y' know it's like RTS." Uh, and they're like, "What's that?" And I'm like, "Y'know it's kinda like, kinda like Buddism."
Karakaxe
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden585 Posts
April 12 2011 20:37 GMT
#134
I actually still can't belive they managed this:

Nothing crashed, no delays, no lag, satisfying price ceremony, awesome commercials and songs/kpop, good and funny interviews, great casting and host, awesome crowd, a new john translator... umm, I can't think of more, it was "the" tournament for me.
Sword of Omens, give me sight beyond sight.
AeonStrife
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States918 Posts
April 12 2011 20:38 GMT
#135
Does anyone know if Dreamhack will release the replays? It would be so awesome if they did
Whats worse...US Poltics or SC2 Balance Talks...
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
April 12 2011 20:38 GMT
#136
On April 13 2011 05:33 Ohnoes92 wrote:
It was the best i've ever seen soo far!

High-quality stream, well-planned, amazing host, great commentators and aswesome "sign-writer".

The only bad thing was the cameraman during the interwievs, since he couldn't hold the camera stable, MC's interpreter was also a bit shaky at times, but that is normal for a live show, (especially since didnt have any experience?)


Also as he's Swedish, he did an interview for aftonbladet with MC, and he spoke Swedish with no accent, so I suspect his English is a little shaky. I think he was there mostly for Swedish interviews, but what do I know.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 20:40:58
April 12 2011 20:39 GMT
#137
Flat out fantastic.

I actually felt happy to share it with a few non Starcraft playing folks for once because there were no worries about massive downtime, no concerns about sub-par production, and any technical difficulties were swiftly resolved with on screen notification of what was going on.

The most professional event outside of Korea, and to top it all off it was a live production.

Hats off to all the guys at Dreamhack for putting on an amazing event, as well as to 2GD, Apollo, and Demuslim for an excellent job hosting/covering it.

===

ed: forgot this

Swedish fans you fucking rock <3
nutnut
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway29 Posts
April 12 2011 20:39 GMT
#138
On April 13 2011 05:10 On_Slaught wrote:
While I enjoyed watching this tourny, it is very unfair to compare it to massive endeavours like TSL, MLG, GSL, IEM etc. This tourny looked great for a few reasons:

1. The entire thing happened over the course of a few hours.

2. All of the players are top level. It's as if we skipped all the preliminary stuff in other tournies and jumped straight to the ro8.

3. Awesome crowd made everything more exciting.

Yes it seemed awesome, but objectively there is nothing that makes this tourny better than any others. 2nd place doesn't get anything... that is just bad imo. Yes the casting was fine, but it wasn't stellar. The obvs was almost "bad." I think a lot of people are looking at this with rose-colored glasses because they enjoyed the games and drama.


Excactly..
There was close to none downtime, wich no event I've seen to date has accomplished.

Btw, whats with casters poring on the superlatives like its candy? Seems like apollo tried to one-up day-9 with "SUPER something" "SOOOO good" "UNBELIIIIVABLE etc", you get the point..
BAM
Essentia
Profile Joined July 2010
1150 Posts
April 12 2011 20:39 GMT
#139
When thye played SC parody songs during breaks, they had me.
DonnaSmith
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom11 Posts
April 12 2011 20:39 GMT
#140
A love letter to Dreamhack,

From the moment I first laid eyes on you I knew we had something special, the
roar of your crowd sent chills down my spine, this was the start of something special. To my surprise you embraced me with your glorious hd stream, and warmed my heart with your soothing casting voice.
Your sound proof booths were sound proof that you wanted our relationship to be long-term.Your Humour puts me in stitches and even when your not here you find the key to my heart in your absence, K-pop.

forever yours,
Donna Smith
Counting the seconds till we next meet
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